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How do you feel about AAA or similar core game content being pay walled?

You know I hate it but what can you everything is getting to expensive and publishers/shareholders only care about profits. 🤷‍♂️

Anyway gamers have voted with their wallets and it's a lost cause.

I'm reminded of this old meme and it has only gotten worse.

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To be fair, pirates have voted, too...
 
To be fair, pirates have voted, too...
Piracy is both a problem and an excuse. It hurts some developers and not others.

I've seen developers like CDPR and Beth never use DRM and still sell over twenty million copies. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Piracy is both a problem and an excuse. It hurts some developers and not others.

I've seen developers like CDPR and Beth never use DRM and still sell over twenty million copies. 🤷‍♂️
Thing is it costs more to put it in. Any DRM is going to be defeated and will make people who would otherwise buy pirate to not have the draconian DRM. See what happened with SecuRom - which as of Windows 10 anything using it no longer functions. Microsoft figured it as malware.
 
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Yeah I was reading about Denuvo it can cost close to half a million for large publishers, and you have to renew it every six months as well.

Which is why you see some developers voluntarily remove it just to save money. By that point most games have already made their money.
 
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Yeah I was reading about Denuvo it can cost close to half a million for large publishers, and you have to renew it every six months as well.

Which is why you see some developers voluntarily remove it just to save money. By that point most games have already made their money.
Some even advertise no DRM, and they tend to be pirated less. Of course for the kinds of games here, people pirating the games tend to lead to more people becoming patrons than if sites like here and the other one weren't around.
 
I bought physical copies of most of my games and music when that was the norm.
Then, the model changed to "license to play" instead of owning. Not so happy with that (not going to lie) but also most of the games I buy online are like 20% what they used to cost.
Now, most of the games I play have DLC that you have to buy separately. Year after year, my conscience made me buy the important DLCs as well, or at least wait to get the "complete pack, game of the year" or whatever name they put that has all the major stuff.
Last year I said to myself: this shit stops right now. And I haven't bought any more games that have DLC (other than the ones which have "supporter edition" or cosmetics, or stuff like this).

Now I campaign against this shit model among my gamer friends, and as we tend to buy the same games to play together, it has been quite successful.
As you do, I think it truly disrespects the player. And I'm talking about side content, if it was paywalled core content I'd be pissed.
I agree with you. We have to stand united against this model. The more we allow them to do the the worse decision they make. I mean saying something like when you buy the license to play doesnt mean u own the game is just ridiculous…. I miss the times when u needed the physical copy to own the game.
 
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I simply drop the game at that point there is no point in continuing said game
 
I obviously don't like it, and have my own opinion on the effectiveness it may have to generate income and retain followers. But otherwise don't really care, it's their place to do whatever they see fit.
 
If it's core content, it should be included in the base game.
 
hard pass if its core content. shouldn't lock that behind a paywall lol
 
Avoid paywalled content of any form like the plague
 
Paywalling is bad. Especially, it's akin to a day 0 dlc. If you pay for a product, you expect the full product. You may create dlc later and then I'd be willing to pay cause the devs spent time to develop this shit and they still have to eat. Though, it's different if you're talking about patreon creators who are already getting subsidized development cost but are even making other pay for the product.
 
I tend to ignore these games and then come back to them after a while to see if they drop the paywall. if after a obscene amount of time past and its still locked, then I look to see if it's been leaked on sites similar to this one.
 
It's gay I hope the dev fails. Art isn't supposed to be about money to begin with. People want to know why there are so many shit games or why games go to shit the answer is as simple as why a fucking banana nailed to a piece of drywall sold for millions.
 
Some of these games, fortunately, cracked, if there is no crack, then such games I have automatically sent to the blocklist.
 
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