discussion NTR is not a dream, its a nightmare. Just say NO to NTR!

[AltasEli]

i never understood People who Get all Horny from that trash NTR Stuff

 

[JACKOAT]

Yes, a Netori game. Although I don't think it should use the label NTR when it comes to Netori. As for the game idea, I still think about it from time to time. I don't know if I'll get to it, but I do want to.

You just hit on one of the primary issues with "NTR" it is the label itself - lumping everything in the Infidelity genre under NTR is just ignorant, and let's not start with the idiotic conflation of Western 'cuckolding', 'sharing', 'swinging', etc. and the Japanese 'netorare', 'netorase', and 'netori' - are there similarities? Yes. Are they the same? No.

If you decided to make the game/story I'm all in

 

[mime]

You just hit on one of the primary issues with "NTR" it is the label itself - lumping everything in the Infidelity genre under NTR is just ignorant, and let's not start with the idiotic conflation of Western 'cuckolding', 'sharing', 'swinging', etc. and the Japanese 'netorare', 'netorase', and 'netori' - are there similarities? Yes. Are they the same? No.

If you decided to make the game/story I'm all in

Yes, there are a lot of misunderstandings. And conflating those isn't great.

Here's an incomplete list of things that some people describe as NTR:

• MC cheats on spouse.
• MC cucks spouse.
• MC is shared with others by spouse.
• MC lusts after non-spouse characters.
• Playable characters both cheat on each other.
• Playable characters both cuck each other.
• Playable characters both share each other with others.
• Playable characters both lust after non-spouse characters.
• Non-Playable character cheats on MC.
• Non-Playable character cucks MC.
• Non-Playable character is shared with others by MC.
• Non-Playable character lusts after non-MC.
• Non-Playable character cheats on other NPC.
• Non-Playable character cucks other NPC.
• Non-Playable character is shared with others by other NPC.
• Non-Playable character lusts after other NPC.

 

[teh_names_z]

It's a huge turn off for me, if it's optional (I see a warning, or hint or something, and can take a different path, it's less bad, but not completely great either)

If it's a woman, and she's joining the harem, it's different... part of a weird fantasy for many.

 

[Deleted member 247200]

It's fun in games tho makes more content but in real nahhhhh

 

[fckratos]

I'm a connoisseur of a good female protagonist, corruption game. A lot of times this is mislabeled as one of the NTR-esque categories but it's just an innocent girl changing her ways through the power of friendship

 

[kullthebarb]

I personally don't like it, but hey, each with their own kinks, it's not like they enjoying those will tarnish my enjoyment of other things

 

[Darkrift411]

I'm a connoisseur of a good female protagonist, corruption game. A lot of times this is mislabeled as one of the NTR-esque categories but it's just an innocent girl changing her ways through the power of friendship

Same, I dont mind those as much. Actually, once in a while I will remove my netorare excluded tag and search for that with fem protag, because ntr games with a fem protag dont give me the want-to-punch-bitch-ass-mc feeling. Unless they go really hard into that hold cucking shit and the entire game is about talking about her cucks small cock or whatever. But yeah, femc ntr games dont really feel liek ntr. I feel those are more netori, but... every time I feel I have a good understanding of the ntr gang of tags someone tells me I am wrong. Or they come out with the whole "ntr is not netorare so you are wrong", which... is right. Sometimes. Depending on the site and their tags. And this... is why I stay the fuck away from the whole NTR discussion. Its a fucking disaster and just makes me want to violence someones face.

 

[fabiusg]

The problem with most games that they lack sexual tension and build-up. Either fmc and heroines just give sex for free. OR MC fucks everything that moves at first glance. That quickly loses any steam or interest.

NTR is changing that dynamic by creating a tension between opposite forces. It is gradual corruption that is attractive for many.

 

[prrrrro]

I like variety in my games, and I don't really self insert. So for only the MC to have sex just feels limiting. In a story where the MC has multiple LIs at his disposal, let the girls have some fun on the side, too! It's just kinda boring when every woman in the story needs to stay faithful to one guy who is all of their types at once with his magic dick.

Tropey NTR just bores me, though.

 

[1ac]

The problem with most games that they lack sexual tension and build-up. Either fmc and heroines just give sex for free. OR MC fucks everything that moves at first glance. That quickly loses any steam or interest.

NTR is changing that dynamic by creating a tension between opposite forces. It is gradual corruption that is attractive for many.

Never thought about it but i think your right. I never really stick with anything that has MC going to town in 5 minutes. Just not realistic.

 

[lacrim]

It's absolutely hilarious watching people have a meltdown over NTR

That and the fact to be that invested in the first place. For me it's all just pixels and words and main point i like it if the chick gets fucked. It's as simple as that.

 

[Dediug]

I don't like it when the main focus is essentially cuckolding the MC

 

[hoochimama]

You just hit on one of the primary issues with "NTR" it is the label itself - lumping everything in the Infidelity genre under NTR is just ignorant, and let's not start with the idiotic conflation of Western 'cuckolding', 'sharing', 'swinging', etc. and the Japanese 'netorare', 'netorase', and 'netori' - are there similarities? Yes. Are they the same? No.

If you decided to make the game/story I'm all in

From what I can tell the japanese simply slap "NTR" on the cover of any doujin or JAV with any sort of "extra-marital" story, regardless of whether it's netorare, netorase, netori, a cheating FMC etc because they're not the most alphabetically inclined to begin with, leading to all that confusion when it's used as both as an umbrella term and as the abbreviation of netorare. They don't write out NTI / NTS/ netorare / netorase / netori as opposed to 寝取られ / ネトラセーゼ / 寝取り etc.

It's the global audience who uses the latinized/alphabetized expressions and their proper abbreviations, and it's up to that global audience to strive to make these definitions clear and workable.

In a netorare (NTR) story the main character's love interest will screw around against the MC's will who'll hate it.
In a netorase (NTS) story the main character's love interest will screw around and the MC will like it or not mind it.
In a netori (NTI) story the main character will screw someone's love interest against that someone's will who'll hate it.

A pornographic NTR / NTS / NTI work is a pornographic work that eroticizes an NTR / NTS / NTI story.