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This is a thread for all NTR discussion. Please note if you are a fan of the genre that's fine but do not come into the thread and troll people or start arguments. Bashing of other members for or against NTR will not be tolerated. Talking about a game or dev is fine as long as you are not bashing them. I personally am not a fan of the genre but as a moderator here I have to remain open minded and not judgmental of those that do like it. So please be adults and have peaceful discussions in this thread. Below are the three versions of NTR.

A Japanese porn acronym that has 3 different meaning depending on the porn content and your pov

#1 Netorare = get cucked without consent, a betrayal cucking, a cruel cheating of your partner where he/she might leave you for a better lover
#2 Netori = you steal someone's wife/gf/girl
#3 Netorase = plain cuckolding, cucking with consent, you are willing to be cucked and she has your blessing to cheat on you

Note: if the girl is the cuck, you may add "reverse" to all of the above categories of NTR
Ex. Reverse Netorare
#1 NTR = She cheated on me and I wept, she loved my pathetic sobbing, she broke up with me after finding a better guy
#2 NTR = I stole Eric's girl, he saw us in his house having sex, Eric wept in front of us having sex but we did not care, that was 3 years ago
#3 NTR = I told my girl to cuck me and now I am a pro cuck, my girl loves to cuck me and I love it too, I'm very happy with my cuckold life
 
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Waddup, similar threads thing down there it's pretty ironic considering this thread title and possible comments. :unsure:
 
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Ok, the way I see it there are several issues here. NOT the definitions, but the use and response to this issue.

Before beginning I wish it to be clearly understood that I do NOT like such content and can ONLY make comments based on my personal experience.

In my experience the WORST situation seems to be the 'SURPRISE' addition of such content. It is disturbing to play (and enjoy) a game and suddenly have a scene appear that has this content (especially after a long period of development). If a developer CLEARLY indicates that it will happen from the beginning, then SOME issues MIGHT be avoided. This of course depends on the game. If we play for and extended time without this content and it suddenly appears in a way that contradicts all the previous events, then it is a disrupting factor that can cause a problem. On the other hand, if players KNOW that content will eventually be added, and the STORY includes things that indicate it is going to occur then there would be no 'Surprise' and disruption is lessened. Personally, I avoid games with content that I dislike (I'm playing for FUN) and to have a sudden disruption to my enjoyment often means an END to my playing (this is NOT limited to adult games).

The BEST way of dealing with bringing in content that MIGHT be an issue that I have seen/experienced was in the Game 'Midlife Crisis'. The Creator took the time to create MULTPLE versions of a scene and gave CLEARLY marked choices of what would happen based on the players choices. The players could see what each choice would include and decide what they wanted to see or avoid. THIS is an example of including a variety of content while avoiding the WORST of the problems. Unfortunately, this DOES increase the time required to develop the game. This can also reduce problems with the 'Surprise' factor. If the content is able to be avoided in this way MANY will simply play what they enjoy and ignore that the other options even exist.

As stated above the 'Surprise' situation of including content (NOT limited to NTR) is perhaps the WORST. If a game suddenly presents a situation that does not fit with all that has happened before then it causes disruption and serious problems. A NON-NTR example might be urination. If a game has never had that content or any discussion of it, then to suddenly have a scene appear with this does NOT fit and will cause issues for players REGARDLESS of their feelings about the BASE 'kink'. For those that dislike what has happened there is disappointment (possibly anger) and often the result is abandoning a game. Fans of the 'kink' may wonder why it has appeared so suddenly and might be confused as to the purpose. There may ALSO be concern about what other new events might be included later that are disliked and players on either side might, again. abandon the game.

A second (and just as serious) issue when discussing NTR content is the problem (on both sides) of people who appear to request (demand) that a game be changed to fit their personal desires. MANY times, I have seen discussions of a game be DESTROYED by the appearance of someone talking about how much BETTER a game would be if something (NTR) was included. As I said I AVOID this content so do NOT know if people go into discussions about games that include it and request (demand) it's removal, but doubt it happens anywhere near the same frequency. In part this can be reduced with CLEAR information about what a game will include. Of course, this is NOT a guarantee, as I have encountered (IDIOTS) people that demand NTR in games where the creator has declared from the beginning that they HATE the content, and it will NEVER be included. Sadly, there are people (IDIOTS) that just want to cause problems and watch everything be destroyed for 'fun'.

Yes, I am (somewhat) guilty of making requests for content to be included. THANKFULLY, people seem to understand that I am (MOSTLY) being silly and trying to get people to LAUGH. Yes, I do like to bring up Chocolate Chip Cookies (Tiny Tina is a GODDESS), and several creators have added humorous scenes playing with my requests. Perhaps the most entertaining situation was with the second chapter of 'TIMESTAMPS' where the developers added a 'Moose and maybe a Squirrell' to the introduction because of my silly comments about the first chapter. For those who wish to experience this you need to name your MC 'Moose' or 'Shiva' (I don't remember which at the moment). I have added this section to show that I am willing to accept my own (silly) guilt.

The last thing I wish to include here is the DIFFICULT issue (debate) as to whether LESBIAN content in a MALE MC game should be considered NTR. I am unsure about this as I CAN see a situation where I would consider it to be a problem. As an example, let's consider a scene where the MC (player) sees two ladies having (SEXY) fun. Depending on what occurs in the scene it may or may NOT be the NASTY three letters. The situation is difficult because there are MANY factors to be considered. Are both ladies Love interests?? Has the MC previously accepted/declared their desire for such events?? Is one of the ladies a rival for the MC?? Is the MC invited to join?? These and other things must be considered before we can say yes or no in answer to the question of what is happening. From my experience MOST developers seem to consider these situations to be a way to expand their story and the issue of NTR does NOT arise. I CAN see that problems could be created, so I am unsure if any single answer really works for these events. Sorry thinking about this is making my head hurt. :)

Well, I'm done with this topic for now. I'll be interested to see the thoughts of others on this topic and HOPE that people will avoid the NASTY fights that can occur when discussing this topic.

Oh, @SeveredRealms you are CRUEL for MAKING me create this wall of text. Because you did this, I DEMAND that you add Chocolate Chip Cookies to your game. :)

Just some thoughts.
 
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I personally do not like NTR. The vibes I get from NTR fans is that NTR is for beta's and cucks, and I hate betas and cucks. I don't make NTR content no1 and no3. I have thought of making a game content where you the player bashes on beta males and steal their girls.
I've seen comments from NTR fans on Fuck95 to see that they get pretty demanding about NTR content to the point they get toxic if they are not given that content.
 
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I'm not much for NTR because most NTR is just the same old same old token black dudes - token ugly fat bastards - token ugly old prunes - token I got hit by the ugly tree dudes. But for me there's an exception to that and that is if the person doing it is a female. If it's a female doing it then I'm fine with it as female+female is hot and you rarely see it. I also don't find girls in a harem having fun with other girls in the harem as NTR. Hell I don't even usually have any problem if they want to have fun with other girls that are not in the harem.
 
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All great arguments and opinions so far folks. Keep em coming. I know everyone has their own "versions" of what's considered NTR to them. Some another "man" so much as flirts with a Li and people lose their minds. Girl on girl..... yea that's another sore point. As for my games I am working on no other man will ever sexually touch any of the Li's and the player never has to worry about losing one. Lesbian content will be in my games to a extent... That extent is it will not happen unless the MC is part of it i.e. threesomes.
The girls will mess with each other now and then and NO NOT every single girl will be BI in my games. Take Lily she is opening the floodgates and wanting to try everything she missed out on including messing with other women with the MC. Kahlan however might watch but when she finally gets with the MC is one on one only for her.
As I said in my OP I try to be open minded. But give me a game I am enjoying and all of a sudden out of the blue a dev throws us under the buss with unannounced out of the blue NTR.... Yup I will say shit. Worse yet a game like "The Builder" WTF bullshit was that... I am making a harem game where you the MC knock up a entire village. . . . . Ohhh but wait wait.... we need a antagonist that's already creampied and knocked up one of the main Li's.... Devs initial reply .. uhhh what what I don't understand what's wrong why you all going nuts on me....o_O
I could go on but lets see what you all come up with as well lmao.
P.S. I will have my wife get going on making those cookies. If I try all you would end up with is charcoal... :ROFLMAO:?????
 
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I personally do not like NTR. The vibes I get from NTR fans is that NTR is for beta's and cucks, and I hate betas and cucks. I don't make NTR content no1 and no3. I have thought of making a game content where you the player bashes on beta males and steal their girls.
I've seen comments from NTR fans on Fuck95 to see that they get pretty demanding about NTR content to the point they get toxic if they are not given that content.
At this point i think Fuck95 zone should change the name for Furry/Futa NTR Zone. I read allot of thread there and its crazy how these people demand that or are willing to play has the guy who is being a pro cuck willing...
That beyond my imagination.
 
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Would you unfollow the dev because of Advertising talk or because of NTR talk or both?

Let me know.


Edit: This to be clear, Advertising as in showing games. The banners, pins, etc.

The purpose of this is when you go into a game page and you see both in the comments being talked about, how would you feel about it? You see NTR would you unfollow the dev? Or Advertisement being spoken about?
 
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Feel free to voice your opinion. Just keep it as constructive as possible and no kink shaming.
 
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people who quit a game because of sharing content are weird. not gonna quit a game because sometimes a girl is pissing on the mc despite not liking the content. it's a video game, these characters are not your friends nor girlfriends, they aren't real. the mentality of a guy over sharing or a cheating woman in real life is 100% understandable, in a video game? it makes me think that the player is so off his game he actually treats these characters as real which is why it offends him so that he quits a game he wanted because of it.

i can use myself as an example for avoiding games that have characters I know from anime, that ive connected with, like avoiding playing games about naruto. but that's how tv works, we are connected to the characters. and since these sex games don't come in form of a dragon age or a mass effect game, i dont get the character connection to a level where if you see a single scene where "your girl" gets fucked by someone else then it's over. you quit the game, even if it's another girl touching your girl despite you fucking both of them.

overall people can very weird, again i dislike scat content, but if someone pisses on the mc im not gonna be like "omg i feel so shamed someone is pissing on me" because it's a fucking game, im not the mc and these characters have not formed any lasting bond with me emotionally over the years like some characters from an anime or a movie did.

not sure what you meant by ad talk but whenever it's BS about money I already smell something close to "I'm gonna milk this game the second I get a chance to do so". TK8000 is the only Dev who isn't there yet despite making money. but he's making less than 2k a month, some creators out there are making 20k easy from the lowest form of updates and lies you've ever seen in your life... but simps will be simps. stupid people have always made society worse, here in the video game genre you get same fifa crap games because people keep paying for them. GTA 6 never came out because the Devs are still milking the online version that turned into a pay to win years ago. and here in the sex games genre you got a guy who updates his game once per 6-9 months, yet earns like double the amount of tk8000. i think it was Irphaeus who made the game Waifu Academy that for the past 2 years have been updated 2-3 times maybe (wasn't huge updates, i wont even call them big LOL) and yet people are still not leaving.

the fastest way to help a Dev work on his game is to starve the fucker out of his money. don't let rich Devs milk you like a cow.

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people who quit a game because of sharing content are weird. not gonna quit a game because sometimes a girl is pissing on the mc despite not liking the content. it's a video game, these characters are not your friends nor girlfriends, they aren't real. the mentality of a guy over sharing or a cheating woman in real life is 100% understandable, in a video game? it makes me think that the player is so off his game he actually treats these characters as real which is why it offends him so that he quits a game he wanted because of it.

i can use myself as an example for avoiding games that have characters I know from anime, that ive connected with, like avoiding playing games about naruto. but that's how tv works, we are connected to the characters. and since these sex games don't come in form of a dragon age or a mass effect game, i dont get the character connection to a level where if you see a single scene where "your girl" gets fucked by someone else then it's over. you quit the game, even if it's another girl touching your girl despite you fucking both of them.

overall people can very weird, again i dislike scat content, but if someone pisses on the mc im not gonna be like "omg i feel so shamed someone is pissing on me" because it's a fucking game, im not the mc and these characters have not formed any lasting bond with me emotionally over the years like some characters from an anime or a movie did.

not sure what you meant by ad talk but whenever it's BS about money I already smell something close to "I'm gonna milk this game the second I get a chance to do so". TK8000 is the only Dev who isn't there yet despite making money. but he's making less than 2k a month, some creators out there are making 20k easy from the lowest form of updates and lies you've ever seen in your life... but simps will be simps. stupid people have always made society worse, here in the video game genre you get same fifa crap games because people keep paying for them. GTA 6 never came out because the Devs are still milking the online version that turned into a pay to win years ago. and here in the sex games genre you got a guy who updates his game once per 6-9 months, yet earns like double the amount of tk8000. i think it was Irphaeus who made the game Waifu Academy that for the past 2 years have been updated 2-3 times maybe (wasn't huge updates, i wont even call them big LOL) and yet people are still not leaving.

the fastest way to help a Dev work on his game is to starve the fucker out of his money. don't let rich Devs milk you like a cow.

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dev thinks people left his itch because of OP buying a ad-spot/pin on the latest updates page, didn't know to take him seriously or leave laughing.
 
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I'm used to ads and commercials, etc.
Such is life, and I understand its a source of revenue, etc.
So on trusted sites - I often disable AdBlock to support the site, etc... (if they do not use redirects or popups).

NTR - Ya - that's an ongoing disease worse that cancer.
Cancer may find a cure some day, NTR is self imposed.
Stomp it out, and eliminate it at all costs - is my only answer!!!
 
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to be clear i am not adding ads from like google ads but game dev banners.
 
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Not that anyone gives a shit what I think... but I'll say it anyway. When Dev's bitch about this type of thing, it just makes me think that they have no talent. "I'm not getting any followers because people are talking about NTR in the forum" no, you aren't getting followers because your content is not good enough to be played despite people talking about NTR. Personally, I've played a very large number of henti games and I would not stop supporting someone simply because there were ads or NTR was mentioned.

I also agree with dickness all around, It seems weird to stop playing something, simply because of a kink you don't like. 90% of games let you avoid kinks that are deemed too far. If it really bothers someone, I don't know why they wouldn't just stop paying sub or, better yet, don't go to the forum...

On to Chompy, so much for no kink shaming... LOL
 
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to be clear i am not adding ads from like google ads but game dev banners.
I didn't know you had a game nor ads or dev banners (whatever this is)

on another topic, did you notice that zelu hummingbird got removed? i was just wondering how do you explain it? is it because the characters are 100% pre-schoolers not like other games that feature loli characters that are the very least at school or something?
 
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I didn't know you had a game nor ads or dev banners (whatever this is)

on another topic, did you notice that zelu hummingbird got removed? i was just wondering how do you explain it? is it because the characters are 100% pre-schoolers not like other games that feature loli characters that are the very least at school or something?
the game we were talking about is pokemon babysitter which is not my game, but the OP purchased a ad to sticky his game on latest updates, i do have a game but its not released lol & its probably way more fucked up than most new games. (fucked up being the tags i use & the scenes like hardcore rape blackmail etc etc)
also i removed hummingbird, i thought it was okay until i actually played it and its a big NOPE for me.
 
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On to Chompy, so much for no kink shaming... LOL
Lol - Your right!
But this is not "the other site"!
Real comments are allowed here - even it offends a few woke, bubble wrapped cucks! ;)
 
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the game we were talking about is pokemon babysitter which is not my game, but the OP purchased a ad to sticky his game on latest updates, i do have a game but its not released lol & its probably way more fucked up than most new games.
also i removed hummingbird, i thought it was okay until i actually played it and its a big NOPE for me.
I'm never for censorship, but I understand why you nixed it.
 
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I'm never for censorship, but I understand why you nixed it.
yea im all for uncensorship but that game is more toddlercon which is a big NOPE
 
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