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The future of AI porn

Personally I think the sites that will offer these kinds of content will be blacklisted by search engine, what imo is already happening for other stuff. Legallity does not seem a big factor, does it? We all, atleast I hope so, made messures to be anonymous on here (new email, vpn, etc.). So why even bother with legallity. Its also not legal to upload SiteRips of normal porn and peoplel still do it, but to find these sites, is the hard part.

Most porn sites that do that just wont show in the searchengines I tried to use (google, ddg, bravesearch, bing).

IMO it will just be hard and get harder to find these types of content, if it even exists.
 
I like loli content, but anything that involves real children is bad. AI is dangerous, and grok proved that, by using images of actual children to generate porn. Im not a fan of AI generated images at all, and it's scary how good some of them are getting at being indistinguishable from real life
 
it will never be as good as people hope/fear, mainly due to limits on material used to train said AI. The more niche and socially/morally objectionable the fetish/content the less likely the Ai is to be trained on it. As such many fetishes will be unable to be produced with AI generators.
 
Photorealistic loli is either already illegal, or about to become illegal, pretty much everywhere. That's why it was purged from the site. The white knights and bible thumpers just can't allow us to have nice things. :cry:

This is a good thing. The more separated from reality it is the safer people will be. It needs to remain complete fantasy.
 
People thought the internet would ruin peoples minds, before that it was writing on computers instead of paper, and yet before that it was something else. We need to stop fearmongering everytime a breakthough technology changes things and start debating the actual issues calmly intead. Hidden figures is a great example of a movie where the issue is presented in a past time.

I'm sorry... is there actually a contingent who thinks the internet *didn't* ruin many/most people's minds? Look around. The average IQ didn't go *up* in the past 30-40 years. For every TED talk or similarly informative video (they used to be, anyway...), there are a thousand videos of mindless drivel, each of which has orders of magnitude more views than their informative counterparts. The same can be said of TV, in large part. It is absolutely the message not the medium that is the core problem - I believe TV/movies/video games/the internet/AI are equally capable of stimulating the mind as any book or newspaper, and can say with confidence I learned more about the Renaissance from the Assassin's Creed series than I did in history class (even after backing out all the fictional bits... in both sources...) - but throw in a profit motive that drives that message to the lowest common denominator, disseminated to the widest possible audience, and the inevitable result is to dumb things down further and further over time in a vicious, downward spiral. Idiocracy may not have been the most well-crafted of movies, but it was certainly prescient.

AI, like the internet and computers in general that came before, is a versatile tool. It can be used to do a great many things. But, like the internet and computers in general that came before, most people will use it to find new and innovative ways to *avoid* thinking, rather than new ways of thinking for themselves. In the long run, that's probably a good thing, since most of us can't be trusted to do that anyway. In the short run, though, it's going to get worse before it gets better (I'm of a similar mind regarding self-driving cars - they'll do better than humans before long, since most people aren't great drivers anyway, but in the meantime, they make me nervous).

That, and we now live in an age where "pics or it didn't happen" or even "video or it didn't happen" will be meaningless. To the extent we ever had a shared objective reality (which was already debatable), generative AI renders that impossible. We already had extremely skewed, partisan news sources, but at least that was just completely different takes on the same objective events. Now there won't be any way to tell what really happened, since both sides will be able to point to clear, unambiguous video of everything happening exactly as they claimed, regardless of what *actually* happened. And before long, there won't be any way to the difference, at all, because the technology is constantly improving. Even well-intentioned, ethical journalists won't be able to tell fact from fiction with any certainty, unless they were the reporter on site when it happened. And just like it's always been (at least since news went from a once-daily paper to a 24-hour news cycle), the ones that stop to make sure they have independent verification of the facts before they publish, will lose out to those that post the story as soon as they can.


...so I say, let's get out of it whatever we can, while we can still enjoy it. Generate whoever, doing whatever, however the viewer wants to see it. Aside from the environmental impact (which ship has long since sailed), what harm does it do to anyone else? The same hardware that tech companies are spending billions on today, will cost a fraction of that in a few years, and a smaller fraction a few more years after that, etc., all while training methods get more and more efficient to reduce the need for as many compute cycles in the first place - particularly once the initial AI bubble bursts, and the ones who survive it already have sufficient hardware to do what needs doing in the aftermath, such that demand levels off and with it the cost of related hardware for retail consumers (or smaller, niche providers, as the case may be). Once it gets to the point that it is truly photorealistic and indistinguishable from reality, it will become impossible to go after those harming real children to obtain real photos, so they will have to ban both (can't really blame them, there). But by then, I'm not terribly worried about there still being a fully functioning government to enforce such laws, except insofar as they can use it as an excuse to go after anyone speaking out against whatever government is left (OK, that last part may have been fearmongering a bit... but only a bit).
 
I'm sorry... is there actually a contingent who thinks the internet *didn't* ruin many/most people's minds? Look around. The average IQ didn't go *up* in the past 30-40 years. For every TED talk or similarly informative video (they used to be, anyway...), there are a thousand videos of mindless drivel, each of which has orders of magnitude more views than their informative counterparts. The same can be said of TV, in large part. It is absolutely the message not the medium that is the core problem - I believe TV/movies/video games/the internet/AI are equally capable of stimulating the mind as any book or newspaper, and can say with confidence I learned more about the Renaissance from the Assassin's Creed series than I did in history class (even after backing out all the fictional bits... in both sources...) - but throw in a profit motive that drives that message to the lowest common denominator, disseminated to the widest possible audience, and the inevitable result is to dumb things down further and further over time in a vicious, downward spiral. Idiocracy may not have been the most well-crafted of movies, but it was certainly prescient.

AI, like the internet and computers in general that came before, is a versatile tool. It can be used to do a great many things. But, like the internet and computers in general that came before, most people will use it to find new and innovative ways to *avoid* thinking, rather than new ways of thinking for themselves. In the long run, that's probably a good thing, since most of us can't be trusted to do that anyway. In the short run, though, it's going to get worse before it gets better (I'm of a similar mind regarding self-driving cars - they'll do better than humans before long, since most people aren't great drivers anyway, but in the meantime, they make me nervous).

That, and we now live in an age where "pics or it didn't happen" or even "video or it didn't happen" will be meaningless. To the extent we ever had a shared objective reality (which was already debatable), generative AI renders that impossible. We already had extremely skewed, partisan news sources, but at least that was just completely different takes on the same objective events. Now there won't be any way to tell what really happened, since both sides will be able to point to clear, unambiguous video of everything happening exactly as they claimed, regardless of what *actually* happened. And before long, there won't be any way to the difference, at all, because the technology is constantly improving. Even well-intentioned, ethical journalists won't be able to tell fact from fiction with any certainty, unless they were the reporter on site when it happened. And just like it's always been (at least since news went from a once-daily paper to a 24-hour news cycle), the ones that stop to make sure they have independent verification of the facts before they publish, will lose out to those that post the story as soon as they can.


...so I say, let's get out of it whatever we can, while we can still enjoy it. Generate whoever, doing whatever, however the viewer wants to see it. Aside from the environmental impact (which ship has long since sailed), what harm does it do to anyone else? The same hardware that tech companies are spending billions on today, will cost a fraction of that in a few years, and a smaller fraction a few more years after that, etc., all while training methods get more and more efficient to reduce the need for as many compute cycles in the first place - particularly once the initial AI bubble bursts, and the ones who survive it already have sufficient hardware to do what needs doing in the aftermath, such that demand levels off and with it the cost of related hardware for retail consumers (or smaller, niche providers, as the case may be). Once it gets to the point that it is truly photorealistic and indistinguishable from reality, it will become impossible to go after those harming real children to obtain real photos, so they will have to ban both (can't really blame them, there). But by then, I'm not terribly worried about there still being a fully functioning government to enforce such laws, except insofar as they can use it as an excuse to go after anyone speaking out against whatever government is left (OK, that last part may have been fearmongering a bit... but only a bit).
The average IQ can't rise... I can't even be bothered to expain why, just read the wiki page.

Yes, theres slop everywhere, I'm not denying that. But TVs had slop, books have slop, art has slop. Slop is easy engagement, and engagement is cash. That's how it's always been.

AI does let people skip thinking, and that is bad, but AI isn't the source problem in this case, laziness is. That's why educating is still as important as ever, and is something AI won't repalce for a long time. I still keep to a modified version of the IBM manual "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.", and it is the basis for most of my AI morals. Self-driving cars should not be a thing, unless someone is held accountable for their driving, at any point in time.

Yeah, but photoshop already ruined picture proof, and editing destroyed video proof. Or are you debating that Star Wars is real? AI just allows this to be mass produced, which is hardly a problem since the quality is also lowered substantially. I don't believe we will get AI videos or images that are untrackable for a long time, since detectors and generators in an arms race that will probably end in stalemate.

Yeah, let's do whatever, while keeping people accountable for what they do with AI. The companies are already bleeding cash, and the bubble will soon pop like the dot-com bubble did. The best will stay standing, the rest will die. AI is here to stay, and isn't inherently evil, but some of the companies will crumble under debt. We have to stop pretending that AI and its geenrated files are inherently bad, and instead look at is as a mass production tool, that usually is lower in quality than the hand-made stuff, just think of "Made with AI" similarly to how you think of "Made in China"
 
if the AI is able to convincinly create realistic CSAM it is becouse is it basing it on either pics of children and editing them, or basing is straight off CSAM , considereing there was a least 1 big reference library used for ai that contained CSAM. yeah you probably have a point that it dosn't direcly harm kids , but most possesion dosn't but dose create a market and demand, and lets be real even if most of csam becomes AI, there would still be a thriving possibly elitist, adn likely more exspensive marker for, you know "the real shit".
Let's agree to disagree here. I also heard the "creates a demand" before, with no data behind it, and I don't believe in it either as it goes against all economic principles.
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it will never be as good as people hope/fear, mainly due to limits on material used to train said AI. The more niche and socially/morally objectionable the fetish/content the less likely the Ai is to be trained on it. As such many fetishes will be unable to be produced with AI generators.
You need to train your own fetishes.
 
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I mean the cat is out of the bag, I imagine eventually open models will be so good that you could practically do anything you want locally as long as you're willing to fork over major money for the hardware.

I disagree on the hardware costs. They said the same thing about CG in the 90s and early 00s. Then Bryce came out. Poser came out. RayDream came out (all from the same company, LOL). Other "Prosumer" apps quickly followed, and they were good enough that the upper-end CG houses kept copies for quickie one-off commissions. These apps had another benefit: they only required machines that were on par with the typical gaming rigs of the time.

AI will likely do the same thing, especially with the explosion of GPU capacities and capabilities. If the pattern holds true, in 3-5 years you'll likely get some app (something like Stable Diffusion) that only requires maybe 2-3 chained GPUs in a desktop to crank out top-shelf AI imagery. Maybe have the ability to get some functionality like VAM on steroids.
 
I disagree on the hardware costs. They said the same thing about CG in the 90s and early 00s. Then Bryce came out. Poser came out. RayDream came out (all from the same company, LOL). Other "Prosumer" apps quickly followed, and they were good enough that the upper-end CG houses kept copies for quickie one-off commissions. These apps had another benefit: they only required machines that were on par with the typical gaming rigs of the time.

AI will likely do the same thing, especially with the explosion of GPU capacities and capabilities. If the pattern holds true, in 3-5 years you'll likely get some app (something like Stable Diffusion) that only requires maybe 2-3 chained GPUs in a desktop to crank out top-shelf AI imagery. Maybe have the ability to get some functionality like VAM on steroids.
I hate that the latest models have multiple layers of blocks even when run locally, and I suspect the problem will get worse in the future.
But maybe by that time we can train our own.
 
I hate that the latest models have multiple layers of blocks even when run locally, and I suspect the problem will get worse in the future.
But maybe by that time we can train our own.

Agreed.

Now that you mention blocks though, there is one potential bit of nightmare-fuel (from an artist's perspective) that comes to mind: Mandatory SaaS.

What I mean is, AI may end up locked behind paywalls, require online-only use, and from there become easy to regulate and control by government and corporation alike (and probably both.) The drive to keep it all locked up means perpetual monetization via rental. It also means an ever growing pile of data to feed the machines (that is, if they can ever fully inoculate against model collapse). The drive to force it all behind paywalls by law gives the government oversight and control over content and user alike.

Hopefully someone makes a breakout product that is local-only and lets the user go nuts, but I'm not going to hold my breath. After all, Photoshop used to be a standalone buy-once-use-forever product, and...
 
It’s certainly open to a wide range of opinions; many people will love it, others will hate it—there’s a bit of everything—and as time goes on, this will become more and more widespread.

Speaking in artistic terms, an AI might be capable of digitally immortalizing the perversions of many people; the question is just how deeply the AI gets involved in that. In my opinion, this is just the beginning; soon there will be (or maybe there already are) games made 100% with AI, where a human is only the one who uploaded it.
 
The generation that reached adolescence without internet is more prepared mentally for all this progress cause we went from nothing to science fiction. we still have perspective and we know and seen some shit. IA is like reggaeton, not bad by it self but usually aglomerates all the lazy and talentless and the results all look the same. You see it even in youtube ads,in 2026 imagez with broken fingers and weird eyes. Someone that takes time and actually puts work will never produce something like that. There are many things achievable with AI but most people will be lazy and greenlight the first and most easy thing decent enough without much thought. That AI LOOK Isee it too much in games and forums these days and I despise it. I dont see that bright future close for porn production quality. Leaving aside the actual process of poducing,improving and releasing which involves money, morals, ethics,and law.
 
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