discussion NTR is not a dream, its a nightmare. Just say NO to NTR!

[partymanimal]

Definitely solo harem. sharing is only okay if its other women.

 

[akhil_ak]

I like to have every option and will branch as i please .

 

[Aka123]

Only Netori is fine by me.

This is how I feel as well.

 

[jeanbaklazan]

This is how I feel as well.

Yeah I like netori in AVNs also but not netorare. Don't really get the appeal of that one...

 

[User_58844]

Porn games to me is exactly as it says, porn in form of a game. I don´t get possessive about the actors in the porn I watch and I don´t get possessive about som pixels getting getting fucked by some pixels, which is not the imaginary me. NTR is great sometimes and useless at other points. It´s all about how kinky it is.

 

[jeanbaklazan]

Porn games to me is exactly as it says, porn in form of a game. I don´t get possessive about the actors in the porn I watch and I don´t get possessive about som pixels getting getting fucked by some pixels, which is not the imaginary me. NTR is great sometimes and useless at other points. It´s all about how kinky it is.

That's exactly the difference between us. I can't influence the movie it's already done. But with games player should be able to make some choices choose the path. So yeah I get invested in MC perspective.
But as I said it should be up to player, so if the NTR is optional, depending on choices, and it doesn't take majority of content then I don't mind it.

 

[Taro]

Of course, I'm not going to share the male protagonist's solo harem with anyone.

 

[User_58844]

That's exactly the difference between us. I can't influence the movie it's already done. But with games player should be able to make some choices choose the path. So yeah I get invested in MC perspective.
But as I said it should be up to player, so if the NTR is optional, depending on choices, and it doesn't take majority of content then I don't mind it.

I like some games way better than others, which would mean that I do invest myself more in some stories than others. I just don´t get emotionally attached to the potential LI´s. That said, everybody should just keep their damn hands off Bella from BeingADik. So no rule without an exception

I respect were you´re coming from though.

 

[hailkaplan]

The solution to enjoying NTR is easy. Don't insert yourself as the guy/gal getting cucked in your imagination. Instead imagine that you are either the one fucking or simply watching from the outside. To me it is just extra spicy rape/corruption.

 

[anyplay]

For games the sharing the spoils is definitely good if done right

 

[danzerino]

Solo definitely. Also depends on the imagination and ability of the writer.

 

[sponge_bob]

as example in BaDik: Derek in ep.9 asked for approach to Camilla and you had a choice to let him or not. with the same outcome. It was a facepalm. Why do you ask then????? In every games exist LI's about whom you dont care. Plenty. I understand if it was one of top 3-5 LI's and that line where she tell him go away could be okaish. But anyway, even if it was top LI, if you fucking ask, then let them do what they want. and no, I dont wanna be involved.
but, i have a feeling that "god" writer DPC, who good-naturedly saved for me Camilla, will force me do h-scene with Elena with her bf. if he likes to ask and did 3 scenes with madame, and you have 1 year span of your updates, at least, be kind, ask me and make 2 variants, where one of them i dont wanna do this shit and be involved.

 

[lewdlove]

Solo MC, no sharing, other than with other girls in the harem..

 

[Spring]

NTR is Unnatural and biologically, subconsciously avoidable. When you see a girl with a male, it's an instant turn off, because your multi-million years evolved brain calculated it's for you and come to a conclusion: she might be infected by this guy's DNA / seed, so it's better to avoid her, due a lower chance of reproducing with this specie and giving her your own DNA / genes.

Animals rape the shit out of their "new mating partner" if one is already pregnant, to induce miscarriage and get her filled up again but with their own DNA.

Stop NTR, it's harmful for your genes! It's Anti-biological

I'm not into NTR yet I'm not so sure about your evolution theory.
Just look outside your front door in the real world.
People go off with other peoples partners all the time.
Others are into sharing and swinging.
It's a diverse world out there where people play many aspects of life.

 

[ツSisterSexualシ]

The solution to enjoying NTR is easy. Don't insert yourself as the guy/gal getting cucked in your imagination. Instead imagine that you are either the one fucking or simply watching from the outside. To me it is just extra spicy rape/corruption.

Nice banner GIF, I have to save it

I'm not into NTR yet I'm not so sure about your evolution theory.
Just look outside your front door in the real world.
People go off with other peoples partners all the time.
Others are into sharing and swinging.
It's a diverse world out there where people play many aspects of life.

I need someone's opinion who's into ntr, just curious about their opinion, I've never met anybody who'd enjoy ntr or get ntr'ed

 

[ツSisterSexualシ]

Black and white fallacy. There's a wide gap between virgin and worn out slut. Though with lolis there's a whole different category Like they say for the Muslim heaven 72 virgins - I'd rather have a dozen or so sluts who know what they're doing.

There might be the opposite side of that, 72 virgin men for girls or whatever. Actually where do they take all those virgins lol

No hate! Tolerate is a good thing!

It is interesting how personal some people take virtual sex, including porn. MC is not you, but it's ok for MC to have sex with his harem, but not any other game male character?


Game immersion is good, and in many games I do associate myself with the MC, but to go so far as to not even tolerate games with different types and levels of virtual sex is a bit much.

I prefer lesbian NTR, gf cheating on you with her related sister or it's you the one who's cheating on her with your own sister. There is only one artist I know who's making such type of cute and adorable NTR manga it's "Takei Ooki".

 

[Aba]

Alwasy solo

 

[bloggs.fred00]

No sharing for me

 

[A.K.A78]

I'm not into NTR yet I'm not so sure about your evolution theory.
Just look outside your front door in the real world.
People go off with other peoples partners all the time.
Others are into sharing and swinging.
It's a diverse world out there where people play many aspects of life.

Going off topic here a little ... but not really cause it's ntr in a way just in real life.
+ i found it interesting so i guess/hope others may as well.

What he is saying is not a theory actually. It's is actually scientifically researched and proved already.
There have been numerous studies done on this already in many different countries by different institutions and government departments and is still ongoing.
Some starting back in the early '70's till now just to compare and compile data on human and animals behavioral patterns (other animals like apes, monkeys, rats and even birds) to see the differences and overlapping data.
It all started real innocent and just as scientific study. If you look at the numbers of those results so far and the worsening and declining heading of those numbers (end results/consequences) they are staggering and frightful.
What you are describing in the world of people going off with other peoples partners, sharing and swinging is actually what is wrong with the world today.
The overall rise in promiscuity in general before and during relationships/marriage is having lasting and negative results in society.
The ability for a woman to stay (pair bond / be and stay happy with 1 partner) in a long term lasting relationship is one of the main reasons there are so many single parent households with kids that grow up and go out into the world as adults
The result of that and those new adults are frightening as well as they fuck up way more then 2 parent households with way more severe and higher numbers in the more severe crimes range.

These are from 2010 when these results came out of the research. They normally do them every 10 years ,,,, but they,,, it's been a bit crazy all around the world when 2020 started till now.
The ability for woman to stay / pair bond purely from a scientific perspective are as followed.
The number of partners before a steady relationship with the objective of having children, marriage and a lasting relationship drops by 22% increase alone for woman after 1 sexual partner.
0 partners (you are the first) = 5% of a failing relationship, 1 =/adds 22% on top of the 5% , 2 partners adds another 12 %, 3 = 11% added on top of that , 4 - 5 is 18 %, 6 - 9 = 14%, 10+ = 18% ending up in a chance that hell will freeze over and pigs can fly that you are staying with that woman who had that many sexual partners before you.
There is way to much data with explanations as to what was compiled, variables, circumstances, religion and what not to type here. Source data and results from various institutions, government organizations like the american census and cdc These are the statistics for the usa.
These statistics change slightly from county to country depending on the populations number of men and woman, base religion of the country and so on. but they all show the same general results and decline. (excluding countries where no numbers are know or with religions that make certain things impossible for woman or men or data to be collected)

However, those numbers are still on the rise since that time. Divorce rates have steadily been going up the last decade and years 70 - 80% of the divorces are now filed by woman documented in the american census and cdc varying between those numbers from state to state
Of first marriages these days, 43% end up in a dissolved/divorce.

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Second and third marriages for those people actually fail at a far higher rate, with 60% of second marriages and 73% of third marriages ending in divorce.

With men the study show the decline but with a much more gradual way with the low numbers at the start and with far higher numbers of partners and excesses in jumps at the end of the high partner count, So the opposite and reverse direction as to woman.

The latest biological studies that have been done confirm/prove that dna will and can be found in that a woman's body of previous sexual partner(s) (unprotected sex).. Meaning lasting dna of a previous sexual partners is stored in her body. That combined with the rise of that promiscuity the willingness to have direct unprotected sex with options like the morning after pilla IUD The rise in std's that are going around as a result is no surprise.
Adding the disadvantage men have in the court system when getting divorced it is no wonder the willingness of men wanting to get married overall are down significantly.

So in conclusion ladies and gentlemen Pick carefully who and how/relation definition you want to spend your life with. I can have grave and lasting consequences.

 

[Deaufosse]

I've been dealing with a lot of NeeTR shrieking lately due to my games, and I've cultivated a theory about it:

By the very function of a visual novel being a story with porn, most are going to be about the main character getting laid. That's why 99.9% of all visual novels play into the male fantasy of being the guy every girl wants because he's got a shitty personality and a big dick.




It's Chad roleplay. Women can't resist the main character, even if it's their sister or mother. You don't get rejected, and if they do try to reject you, it's rape o'clock because you're the MC, and that's a whole other power fantasy.

But Porn is a fantasy, right? What does this have to do with NTR?

NTR has evolved from the technical definition to a borderline InCel catch-all for any content that violates this Alpha Chad fantasy. The same guys who say, "Don't they get it? It's just pixels?" will also start REEEE-ing at those pixels when they don't directly play into that fantasy. If a woman is in the game, then they are there for MC to bang, as if their dick was Chekov's Gun. Conversely, any woman existing to do something other than to be the MC's cock receptacle is NTR. Period.

When Burned V.1 came out, people complained that Mia and Kristy / Mia and Sasha fooling around was NTR. Never mind the fact that the MC had yet to really hook up with any of them, or they weren't in any form of relationship. I've seen NeeTRs get uncomfortable with the simple existence of a secondary male character because they're afraid he *might* bang one of their girls in a later update.

With Burned V.3, I recently discovered it doesn't matter if it's Girl-on-Girl; the emotional violation is still there. The girls are going against your fantasy and tainting your property. Therefore, it's NTR. You can't even joke about it. They won't find it funny. Instead, NeeTRS had a very visceral reaction because two girls were screwing around, and the main dick wasn't in the room.

And it is an emotional violation more than anything. In Malignant, soooo many NeeTRS flipped out when the wife admitted to cheating on the MC. Never mind that you don't actually see this cheating or that the MC has been emotionally and physically unfaithful to her for a friggin' decade. And you know what's funny? The scene where the MC is cucked by his doppelganger who literally impales his daughter on his dick--The scene I specifically put to foster an interesting discussion about NTR that'd take a weird turn into the theory of the mind because whether or not it counted as NTR depended entirely on the mystery of that moment-- That scene? They don't bring it because their fantasy isn't being violated by one of the female characters.

Honestly, it's insane and creatively stifling as a storyteller.