discussion do you think sharing and NTR are the same?

[london23]

NTR does not imply your participation (cheating on u), but sharing completely allows

 

[MattShizzle]

Doesn't always mean it's another male. You can have a harem game of a male mc and 10 female LIs, you can have the option of them messing around with each other with or without you present, not in an orgy type of way. Like watching or "behind the scene" type thing

That's true, but when it's 2 LIs doing lesbian stuff, I don't consider that NTR. Plenty don't actually.

 

[kikomascado]

Netorare, Netorase and Netori are all different things, but unfortunately they all fall into NTR tags, which makes it very hard to search for the right thing...

 

[Noneless]

My personal point of view is that in NTR you have unwittingly horns, and with sharing you also have horns but this time you enjoy it

Neither NTR/Sharing is for me but I kinda understand if other people like it, more or less

 

[Augustus]

A: You invite a friend over for dinner.
B: Someone breaks into your home and steals your food.

Very, very different scenarios. And it's not just about consent, it also about vibes. A is a happy thing, B is a scary thing. Of course you are free to prefer keeping all your food for yourself, but if you don't understand the difference between A and B, that's a problem.

Now using food as metaphor for romantic partners is iffy, but about as iffy as the relationship model you'd need to make sense of sharing, ntr etc in the first place.

 

[Suntec]

well from my perspective (I'm kinda ignorant) NTR means it's involuntary most of the time. Where as sharing is always a voluntary act.
so no - it ain't the same to me. but feel fre to educate me.

 

[DarkHarmonyNTR]

Not even close. NTR (netorare) should happen with no imput at all from the MC while sharing is something both partners agree on but then most games with netorare requires input from the player that practically forces the SA into it instead of it just happening by itself.

 

[A.K.A78]

Yes they are,,, Since i would never give permission to swing or share to my Li,,,,,, and without permission where does that leave those tags.....
It is just a sub category.
Now you can explain definitions of words and explain what is needed for the difference for them to be different.
You can call and rename things all you want and divide them up into sub categories, that is just for the people that like it and want certain things but not the other things that also fall under that category.
But for someone not into it...Who gives a fuck.
That all falls under the same NTR umbrella if you are not into it.

 

[nerocic]

They are very different concepts.

For example, My Life In A Fantasy Kingdom is a good demonstration of sharing, or at least that's what I think
and what other games do you think make a better difference?

 

[User_111887]

Yes and no, because sharing can lead to NTR but you can also have couple that shares that aren't "taken" by someone else. Like the old saying goes all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

 

[MassageEnnis]

They may feel the same to someone who doesn't enjoy them but a big part of NTR is the feelings of loss it causes. Loss of Masculinity, loss of love, loss of trust etc. If you're sharing you are in control of what is going on thus it's completely different.

 

[Hobobobb]

Academic answer: No NTR contains emotional aspects of betrayal and loss that are apart from the physical act of sex. Sharing while the same in a physical sense, is done with the implicit agreement of all.

Practical answer: Doesn't matter, I don't $upport either, and never will. Both get the old /ignore /trash/ from me.

 

[Republican Bear]

No sharing is a different aspect of the same kink, but it doesn't have the betrayal as both parties know and agree to it.

That's not to say one partner can get jealous or fall for another partner so it might lead to Netori.

 

[klingpop]

One involves YOUR consent.

 

[susa5411]

Of course not. I take sharing as something that involves basically all parties and NTR more like third wheeling.

 

[4rcan1st]

Same thing. Thanks, but no thanks.

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[VNThrowaway]

No, they definitely are not the same. Just like cheating and non-monogamy are not the same thing, there is a big difference between knowing and approving of your partner being with someone else and having someone steal them without you knowing and against your will. NTR is the latter, sharing is the former.

 

[4rcan1st]

No, they definitely are not the same. Just like cheating and non-monogamy are not the same thing, there is a big difference between knowing and approving of your partner being with someone else and having someone steal them without you knowing and against your will. NTR is the latter, sharing is the former.

All I se are excuses cheaters use to make themselves feel like it's fine to cheat.
Having intimate relations(sex included but not limited to) with anyone that's not your partner is cheating, everything else is fluff to make you feel better.
An open relationship is not a relationship, it's a friend or roommate you sometimes have sex with when they don't have anyone else at hand.

 

[VNThrowaway]

All I se are excuses cheaters use to make themselves feel like it's fine to cheat.
Having intimate relations(sex included but not limited to) with anyone that's not your partner is cheating, everything else is fluff to make you feel better.
An open relationship is not a relationship, it's a friend or roommate you sometimes have sex with when they don't have anyone else at hand.

First of all, I've never been in a non-monogamous relationship and have never cheated on a partner, so no one is making "excuses" here.

Second, that literally isn't the definition of "cheating" or being "unfaithful", which is to break your commitment to your partner and have sexual relations with another partner without their knowledge or consent. If two people are in a committed relationship and have mutually agreed that it is ok to sleep with someone else, then there is no "promise" being broken so there is no being unfaithful.

Also, an "open relationship" is only one form of non-monogamy and is nothing at all like polyamory. I know a number of couples who are polyamorous, but I don't know a single person who is in an "open relationship". It is far more common for people who are non-monogamous to have two committed partners than for people who simply want to sleep around, and of the people I've talked to who do sleep around most of them are swingers.

It's also really disrespectful to say that just because someone sleeps with someone else that they aren't in a "relationship" and are friends or roommates, don't push your values on other people just because you don't understand or agree with them. I'm simply drawing a distinction based on facts and definitions, not telling you what you should value or how you should live your life.

 

[dragonange]

by definition it is different, any japanese here to explain why ?