discussion Thoughts on some Grinding/effort in games?

[rifticc]

a bit of grinding is needed for a game to be playable.

 

[a1fox3]

A bit of give and take for me.

SOME investment feels really good for immersion, but I don't want to do math problems , work out, and chores for 20 hours of a 22 hour play through.
Then again, with no effort or grinding, the game doesn't feel as compelling?

I agree.
Some grinding is fun but if it takes all the fun out of the game then off to the trash can it goes.

 

[pearson.smith]

for a porn game, then no. if it's a good game with good mechanics, then it can work.

 

[Konstantinople]

As long as it is a mechanic that will reward the player and not to cover for lack of content, than it's fine.

 

[Deleted member 22643]

aslong as the loop is fun then I dont mind but so many games just make it so tedious that its just not worth it.

 

[Kiluabe21]

Grinding is good, but sometimes you just want to sit down, relax and not rack your brains

 

[evvi]

Just make the reward of completing some activity be meaninful

 

[guhrtttyoooooo]

Gameplay has a MAJOR effect on the grind in my personal opinion. If the gameplay is fun and truly engaging, then I'll grind the game without even thinking about it.

 

[thlvcs]

It is a balancing game by it self. too much grind and it gets boring. to few working towards the goal can make it feel not as fun.

 

[Deleted member 43576]

I honestly don't mind the amount of grind as long as the reward is proportional to the effort. Most of the time, though it doesn't really feel like it is.

 

[rine777]

I think NLT games have a great balance in this respect - you get early spice, and have to work up to the main LI. Games where you have to replay the same scenes/interactions over and over and over like Foot of the Mountains are extremely frustrating.

 

[Deleted member 226772]

I don't mind it when it comes down to single player games, most I've played had a nice balance, except for Online games.......GTA Online, I'm looking at you.

 

[alexusbiru]

I think I said it before on a similar thread:

It's all about balance, the kind of game you are playing or what do you want.

• If all you want is some blue ball relief, then grinding is bad
• If the gameplay sucks, grinding is bad
• If you don't feel any kind of satisfaction (stronger character or better relashionships), grinding is bad
• TOO MUCH IS ALWAYS BAD

Grinding can be good:

• as a way to elevate tension in a tense story
• to elevate dopamine hits on rewards
• to simulate feelings, like everyday boredom
• to simulate how hard something can be (must be together with something easy for comparison)

As everything, grinding is a tool. And if misused, has the potential to destroy a game.

 

[i_patchy]

Unless it provides something meaningful and substantial like semi-interesting gameplay or puts some pressure/tension to a story for a protag but doesnt feel like its a chore, than it just serves to artificially inflate game time. Most of grinding in the games are sadly falls in to second category - just mindless bloat.

 

[Yamirus]

The devs need to find a way to make grinding fun, like new variables everytime or just simply light grind, I just hate it when the grind is heavy, and then there's also RNG fucking up the time I spent for the game

 

[Magician5513]

Grinding just for to make the game 'longer' is just a 'no go' ... Grinding should be rewarding because it is fun.

 

[Wires]

This is personal taste, but having grinding (depending on what type of game) is something I enjoy because it makes me feel like I am working for a goal and sex is the reward.

Specifically in RPG games like black souls or Rance or something where you rape as a reward, me getting stronger is a type of immersion that makes me feel like I am the one conquering the game, and in turn makes me harder

 

[skittlesdisco]

I'm a big fan of grindy games. Been playing Warframe for around 11 years at this point...

 

[kukulkan]

Depends, if it isnt too boring then its usually fine

 

[ColtFears]

Grinding isn't bad as long as it's fun, but i dislike it on porn games because they're usually a waste of time that rarely pays off.