discussion One of the biggest turn offs on this site is the constant change of rules and restrictions

[ErzuzB]

But its all in members+ right? Or are things removed from there too?

All of Sinners/Restricted -> Games+

 

[Love: Up and Down]

Buckle up buttercups... We are still fine tuning the rules. I hate it as much as everyone else. The problem is some people have no brains or common sense to know what they should and should not do. We give some of you a inch and you try to take 50 miles.
Ai is a big problem all around because even the governments can't figure out where the laws should stand so if "We" do not protect the site we could be caught with our pants down and well ya in big fucking trouble if they decide this or that just can't be allowed.
Coins ohhhhh the wonderful idea of making you all earn coins..... Yup another bullshit thing we have had to implement because some brain dead twat had to go and fuck everyone over by being a dick and reporting our content. It has been nothing but a pain in the ass for the staff to deal with all the changes and yes @Kavinsky you really need to stop messing with the member+ price. Your only pissing off people. 550 was perfectly fine. They still had to work for it and it took some time. The twats reporting it are normally lazy people and omg I gotta work to be a dick probably isn't in their vocabulary....
so yea sorry but expect more changes as we figure out how to get people to use their brains and making everyone else suffer because they can't figure out how to.
Signed...
I hate rules too

You will never convince people of this as long as the site offers a payment to bypass. Period.

 

[Xonia]

You will never convince people of this as long as the site offers a payment to bypass. Period.

Payment to bypass what?

 

[bulliedhealer]

You will never convince people of this as long as the site offers a payment to bypass. Period.

Actually makes more sense to me that way, for bad actors. How many people out there that hate smols are gonna pay money to a site they view as morally wrong(loads of them consider themselves anti-****s) in order to report it to anyone? You think they want a transaction that might could be traced back to them? Nooooooope.

Payment to bypass what?

You can buy LC with cash. I came back after a 2 year hiatus from the site and got mem+ in a few days when it was on discount. I've nearly enough banked right now to buy prestige 1. It's insanely easy to earn coins. I didn't even need to read the tutorials on how to earn them, I just read the basic rules and instructions.

Post and participate in contests. Use free online image generators, make some decent AI and share it. People make this whole process much more difficult than it has to be, especially when they're wasting time complaining about it instead of earning LC.

 

[Xonia]

Bypassing the ever increasing LC farm(I swear each month I visit there is another new price), getting instant access to restricted areas. Especially when you feed people the security concerns as reasoning for the changes in the first place, yet you want them to risk using probably easily trackable data about themselves. Pay walling was the main goal, everything else is secondary convenient justification, we are not children(at least I hope not) to still play pretend.

You need support to stay afloat, fine I donate to similar places, but I do it voluntarily, not by being strong armed into it.

Hopefully i can help alleviate your problem here


Other than the developers games hosted on their respective sites: SS, Patreon, or their own sites.
Not a single item on this website costs money to the users. None whatsoever.
There is no pay wall
There is no credit card needed
There is no third party payment account needed to access or use this site.
It is free to use, access, and to participate on.

There is however, costs associated with RUNNING the site. The monthly ones keeping the site active.
These costs are not your responsibility. They are the owners.


The only thing you can even use money on for this site is to donate to assist in reducing costs of running the site.
That is all. You do not gain any special privilege, you do not gain any special item or feature. The money you donate to the site gives the site a longer run time and shows that you care for the well being of all that use this site and the content within.
In order for us to feel good about accepting donations. We offer to send coins to your account as a thank you. You can donate to the site and no receive a single coin if you wish. It is just our way of saying thank you.

As for the comment about coming back to increased prices?
Try logging in within a shorter time frame. The price of members plus has been 750 since i became staff of this site when i joined.
EACH WEEK Kavinsky puts the cost of ranks on sale, randomly throughout the week, and at a random price. Thats the only reason you see different prices.

Especially when you feed people the security concerns as reasoning for the changes in the first place, yet you want them to risk using probably easily trackable data about themselves.

You know sites you access, especially ones that use Xenforo as base, can access your IP.. even on a VPN your IP is still found. So dont think you are invisible.
We also, quite frankly, do not care about your information. Not one single digit of your information means anything to us.
Only part of you thats means something us is if you are a good person and want to see the community we are striving to make for the AVN, better.


We care about the users on the site because if we didnt, the developers that create the games you all play, wouldnt have a good support pool to help fund or promote your games. If users dont have a safe site to find their favorite devs, other than SS, patreon, etc. Then the support dries up and the solo devs, indie teams, small devs teams, break up and the game you love becomes abandoned.
Most of the sites that are out there are slowly removing content, slowly removing developers, and rapidly becoming shells of what they ones were and trying to be.
SS is one of the few payment sites that is welcoming Adult creators. They have kinks to work out, but they are for now a stable platform for subs and devs.
Patreon is being cucked by their payment providers on what is hosted on their site so they are removing/banned devs and/or holding their money hostage.
Whorehouse95 has been removing devs and certain content as of late due to unknown reasons and speculated reasons.


I do not and will not sit by and watch the games i love to play from time to time, be ruined by people who dont want to support others dreams. I became staff to help do my part in keeping the community safe enough they feel its ok to have a voice and to have place for them to be themselves without worry of being banned, removed, censored, or even ridiculed over what their favorite tag or fetish is.
We are human, we have feelings, and we have compassion for each other.

 

[Love: Up and Down]

Not a single item on this website costs money to the users. None whatsoever.
There is no pay wall
There is no credit card needed
There is no third party payment account needed to access or use this site.


There is however, costs associated with RUNNING the site. The monthly ones keeping the site active.
These costs are not your responsibility. They are the owners.

Brother, I am talking about you being able to buy membership + aka the access to the only thing this site was known in the first place. Like why type so much yet completely miss the obvious point of my post?

I am not talking about you accessing the information, I am talking about the narrative that this change was needed because people were reporting the site to the big bad wolf and them accessing that information

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Its clear that was just convenient justification, because its an easy narrative to sell, just look how many just gobble it up. In all my time here I watched the donation goal never be achieved, then lo and behold, coincidently, new pay walled section gets added. Like be transparent that it was always about finding ways to get money and more people will understand and respect it, rather then being fed PR bulshit on a porn forum...

 

[Xonia]

Brother, I am talking about you being able to buy membership + aka the access to the only thing this site was known in the first place. Like why type so much yet completely miss the obvious point of my post?

I am not talking about you accessing the information, I am talking about the narrative that this change was needed because people were reporting the site to the big bad wolf and them accessing that information

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Its clear that was just convenient justification, because its an easy narrative to sell, just look how many just gobble it up. In all my time here I watched the donation goal never be achieved, then lo and behold, coincidently, new pay walled section gets added. Like be transparent that it was always about finding ways to get money and more people will understand and respect it, rather then being fed PR bulshit on a porn forum...

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Clearly you didnt read what i said:
You cant BUY members+
You have to earn the coins by actually being active on the site and contributing to the topics

That
"PayPal is now ENABLED!"
is because people were asking for other forms of payment instead of just using a CC to donate.
Mostly to be more "anonymous"

YOU are missing the point. You are just seeing that you can donate to the site and mixing that in your head and calling it a paywall

 

[ErzuzB]

Bypassing the ever increasing LC farm(I swear each month I visit there is another new price), getting instant access to restricted areas.

The price for any rank hasn't changed since April 22, and the two weeks before that where still the balancing and adjusting phase (the credits system came in place on April 6).
There are random weekly discounts tho, but they have a visual notification that they are active.

Brother, I am talking about you being able to buy membership + aka the access to the only thing this site was known in the first place. Like why type so much yet completely miss the obvious point of my post?

I am not talking about you accessing the information, I am talking about the narrative that this change was needed because people were reporting the site to the big bad wolf and them accessing that information

You must be registered to see attachments

Its clear that was just convenient justification, because its an easy narrative to sell, just look how many just gobble it up. In all my time here I watched the donation goal never be achieved, then lo and behold, coincidently, new pay walled section gets added. Like be transparent that it was always about finding ways to get money and more people will understand and respect it, rather then being fed PR bulshit on a porn forum...

The option to pay real money for Members+ came later. The first instances even had it in the rules that it isn't possible to buy the access with real money.
It got changed later because many people asked and complained about it. Yes they did, the grind threads had plenty of posts about it.
I don't remember the exact date, but it was probably around April 14 or so it was made possible, maybe even later.


All in all it seems more like you look for an easy justification to complain about an inconvenience.