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Abandoned Ren'Py DAZ My Sister's Devious Plot [0.4] [MacroxssZ]

Damn, I've been so out of the loop, too busy trying to gather research for my own project. This is such an eyesore to adult games. I mean, did Westy lure kids into a white van with no windows? Of course not, this is a total exaggeration on the Aussie's part. Makes me glad I love in the US, sure it's not perfect but what place is?

I just hope he's okay, he's a veteran in this community and the only thing he did was created art, key word "Art".

It looks like other Devs are getting spooked and I really hope that's not the case. It's like every time I find something to enjoy it goes away. FML.
His next court date is Dec 5, so he's prob ok till then at least. And to be fair this one was sadly probably going to get abandoned anyway, the shit in Aus was just a convenient scapegoat.
 
What birds? What war??

From :

The Emu War, also known as the Great Emu War, was a undertaken in Australia over the later part of 1932 to address public concern over the number of said to be destroying crops in the district within the Wheatbelt of . The unsuccessful attempts to curb the population of emus, a large indigenous to Australia, employed soldiers armed with —leading the media to adopt the name "Emu War" when referring to the incident. While a number of the birds were killed, the emu population persisted and continued to cause crop destruction.
 
Abandoned? Is this because of the Westy stuff? or did the dev lose interest.
Been gone for a week so pretty out of the loop.
 
Abandoned? Is this because of the Westy stuff? or did the dev lose interest.
Been gone for a week so pretty out of the loop.
The Westy stuff was pretty much just a convenient excuse, by Darkrift411's account (who was a/the writer for the game).

He was going to abandon it anyways. I knew that when I left his team a few weeks ago. He just found a really great excuse today to get away with it.
 
As a minor Clarification
Emus can dodge bullets
They are really not that quick, so it's not like they were Neo or some Agent from The Matrix. They can keep running at 30mph even on uneven terrain and even with a dozen wounds and alot of blood loss for quite some time though (so a bad idea to mount your Lewis guns on a military vehicle and try to chase them over farmland, old school horses/cavalry would have been better). Some were comparing their tenacity to Zulu warriors (which the British also had trouble with and were unprepared at first when they thought a bunch of savages with primitive weapons would be an easy fight).
 
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I for one back the almighty Emu army.

I have an aunt in Aus, we visited when we were kids. One person in my family both me and my twinsy hate was our eldest brother.

Emu chased him, he tried to escape over a fence, got himself caught up in it and was stuck upside down until he could be rescued cos no one else in the family would risk the Emu wrath .... besides, most of us had giggles.
 
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His next court date is Dec 5, so he's prob ok till then at least. And to be fair this one was sadly probably going to get abandoned anyway, the shit in Aus was just a convenient scapegoat.
Okay, thanks for info.
 
The Westy stuff was pretty much just a convenient excuse, by Darkrift411's account (who was a/the writer for the game).
I was "the" writer from about.... 30-50% through 0.1. When I came in, 75% of 0.1 was "written" but most of the text didn't match with the renders. "He kicks the thug" but the render shows him punching, or some shit like that, so I took the existing renders, the basic idea of the scene and rewrote most of them. So some of the stuff (like the first school scene, meeting Z, etc) were somewhat left untouched. I might have fixed grammar/spelling/punctuation, but I didn't rewrite those. Starting around the bar fight scene until a month ago, I was the one writing everything. But I was only supposed to be a temp writer. I kept telling him as soon as he could afford a REAL writer with actual skill who could write shit without it being huge paragraphs, he needed to hire them. But the game never made enough money for that to happen.
 
I was "the" writer from about.... 30-50% through 0.1. When I came in, 75% of 0.1 was "written" but most of the text didn't match with the renders. "He kicks the thug" but the render shows him punching, or some shit like that, so I took the existing renders, the basic idea of the scene and rewrote most of them. So some of the stuff (like the first school scene, meeting Z, etc) were somewhat left untouched. I might have fixed grammar/spelling/punctuation, but I didn't rewrite those. Starting around the bar fight scene until a month ago, I was the one writing everything. But I was only supposed to be a temp writer. I kept telling him as soon as he could afford a REAL writer with actual skill who could write shit without it being huge paragraphs, he needed to hire them. But the game never made enough money for that to happen.
Lol geez, I didn't know writing a scene and making it actually match the renders was so hard. Ideas and details of an overall story, sure, in fiction sometimes writer's block happens. But given his heart just didn't seem to be in it, renders underpar without someone telling him and pointing it out (and even then saying it's good enough), etc it seems like a miracle it made it to 0.4.
 
Lol geez, I didn't know writing a scene and making it actually match the renders was so hard. Ideas and details of an overall story, sure, in fiction sometimes writer's block happens. But given his heart just didn't seem to be in it, renders underpar without someone telling him and pointing it out (and even then saying it's good enough), etc it seems like a miracle it made it to 0.4.
It made it to 0.4 because I kept telling him I would fly to where he lives and behead him if he abandoned it. (seriously, I said that a lot, but he knew I was... mostly joking). But yeah... he had real problems with shit like matching renders to text.

Our big fight (the one where I left) was due to 4-5 different things that were just pure shit.
One example, how he rendered this walking scene (I had to spend like 3 hours with him to get him to fix it)

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Then, he started adding text in places where it was not needed. He has done this a LOT, and while it is his game.. I made him promise that If I am writing he doesnt do that shit. It just looks bad. He has promised almost once a month for a year, yet he keeps doing it "You know I have a bad memory, I forgot.". I told him, if you need text added or changed, just tell me what to change. I will change it the right way. In this example, he added text that there was no reason for. Previous render, they were sitting, next they are standing. It did not need to be said that this is "After standing up". Let alone the lack of a period (which he never uses on the lines he adds, one of the easiest ways to see when he added shit).
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Before I wrote the warehouse scene, we spent HOURS digging through asset to find a good warehouse. He showed me all sides, etc. Because I needed to know the layout to write the scene. He found one with a set of metal stairs going up the outside to a platform with a door. So the story was written for that. MC went up the stairs, into the door, then down some inside stairs. When he showed me the render, it was a different warehouse. And this one had no stairs. So I told him I would have to rewrite the entire scene. What does he do? "I fixed it. I put some stairs in."
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Like his fucking stairs? A fucking ladder. Like.... seriously. You cant make this shit up.
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And while I am trying to find and correct all of his fuckups... what is he doing? Designing new characters for some new game he wants to make.
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In the story (as I originally wrote it, based on the warehouse he showed me), the MC parks on the street. Then gets out and looks at the warehouse, seeing there are 2 armed guards in front of it. So he sneaks around the side of the warehouse to the back. That is where he finds the stairs to get in. But instead, his renders show him get out of the car. Then walk down these huge concrete stairs and see 2 guards in front of the door. I argued the guards were supposed to be at the front of the warehouse, not the back where MC sneaks in. "It doesnt matter. Its fine." I ask if the MC is secretly a fucking ninja now since he has to sneak behind armed/trained guards into a door that is 3 foot behind them....
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Oh, btw, the door wasnt even there. He forgot the door, so I had to help him find one that didnt look completely out of place... like this one.
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Also to help explain why I was so pissed about the stairs/ladder... First, If any of you have EVER climbed a ladder, you will look at that render and know that Mac has never climbed one in his life. You would not extend the ladder that much higher than the platform you want to get off on, becasue you would want to climb up over the ladder, not get off the side (and unbalance it, and prob fall to your death). Second.. when you escape the warehouse, you are taking a young girl with you. One who is traumatized, and prob hasnt been fed very well. You expect this young girl to be able to handle that ladder by herself? "Cant he just carry her" was his reply. Sure... MC can just pick her up, and get on this rickety fucking ladder FROM THE SIDE, and climb down with her in his arms. No fucking problem Mac. Piece of cake. "Its fine bro"

Most of the fingering-heather-in-bathroom scene was fucked up. None of the renders matched the text except the first 3-4. He actually rendered them leaving the bathroom after doing it, then going back into it to finish their talk before leaving... like WHY? Why leave the bathroom, then go back in to talk? WHY?

Here, as the text says, you can clearly see his mouth on her nipple. Right?
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Walking down the stairs. Maybe they are moonwalking backwards?

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And this is the global signal for "shush" right?
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Its like he is trying to test if he can cross his eyes.

There were about... 4-5 more things he cut corners on and was going to release, but this reply is already getting long as fuck.
 
It made it to 0.4 because I kept telling him I would fly to where he lives and behead him if he abandoned it. (seriously, I said that a lot, but he knew I was... mostly joking).
You know, I should have known better. I had to go back and check, but the very first post in this thread other than the OP was me specifically asking if he was going to stick with it longer than his other short games. And then you had to go and build up my hopes so they could later be shattered. So clearly, this is all your fault. :D
 
You know, I should have known better. I had to go back and check, but the very first post in this thread other than the OP was me specifically asking if he was going to stick with it longer than his other short games. And then you had to go and build up my hopes so they could later be shattered. So clearly, this is all your fault. :D
To be fair, when he first messaged me on discord asking me to help him make sure his game was not trash, he spent weeks talking it up, and about how this was his dream. I repeatedly told him that he better not abandon it. And for months, he fed me this "This is my dream. It is what makes me happy. I dont even care about getting paid, I just want to make a game". And I believed him, up until about 2 months ago. Thats when he started bitching more and more each day about how little he was making, about how he "needed a break" and wanted to make other games (lolis dont pay now, I should make a game without lolis), etc. From what I gather looking back, my guess is that it is a cross between the fact that he was prob lying about not caring about the money and him thinking he was a lot better at the rendering than he was. I assumed the fact that he asked me to join the team SPECIFICALLY to talk shit about his renders so he could improve meant that he was serious.

This is the day he asked me to help (a year ago) in a public channel on Discord:
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Then he DM'd me:
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The above was true, until I became the writer, and the animator, which was a few weeks later.

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It made it to 0.4 because I kept telling him I would fly to where he lives and behead him if he abandoned it. (seriously, I said that a lot, but he knew I was... mostly joking). But yeah... he had real problems with shit like matching renders to text.

Our big fight (the one where I left) was due to 4-5 different things that were just pure shit.
One example, how he rendered this walking scene (I had to spend like 3 hours with him to get him to fix it)

View attachment 47031

Then, he started adding text in places where it was not needed. He has done this a LOT, and while it is his game.. I made him promise that If I am writing he doesnt do that shit. It just looks bad. He has promised almost once a month for a year, yet he keeps doing it "You know I have a bad memory, I forgot.". I told him, if you need text added or changed, just tell me what to change. I will change it the right way. In this example, he added text that there was no reason for. Previous render, they were sitting, next they are standing. It did not need to be said that this is "After standing up". Let alone the lack of a period (which he never uses on the lines he adds, one of the easiest ways to see when he added shit).
image.png


Before I wrote the warehouse scene, we spent HOURS digging through asset to find a good warehouse. He showed me all sides, etc. Because I needed to know the layout to write the scene. He found one with a set of metal stairs going up the outside to a platform with a door. So the story was written for that. MC went up the stairs, into the door, then down some inside stairs. When he showed me the render, it was a different warehouse. And this one had no stairs. So I told him I would have to rewrite the entire scene. What does he do? "I fixed it. I put some stairs in."
s25warehouse3.png


Like his fucking stairs? A fucking ladder. Like.... seriously. You cant make this shit up.
View attachment 47032

And while I am trying to find and correct all of his fuckups... what is he doing? Designing new characters for some new game he wants to make.
View attachment 47033
In the story (as I originally wrote it, based on the warehouse he showed me), the MC parks on the street. Then gets out and looks at the warehouse, seeing there are 2 armed guards in front of it. So he sneaks around the side of the warehouse to the back. That is where he finds the stairs to get in. But instead, his renders show him get out of the car. Then walk down these huge concrete stairs and see 2 guards in front of the door. I argued the guards were supposed to be at the front of the warehouse, not the back where MC sneaks in. "It doesnt matter. Its fine." I ask if the MC is secretly a fucking ninja now since he has to sneak behind armed/trained guards into a door that is 3 foot behind them....
image.png


Oh, btw, the door wasnt even there. He forgot the door, so I had to help him find one that didnt look completely out of place... like this one.
image.png


Also to help explain why I was so pissed about the stairs/ladder... First, If any of you have EVER climbed a ladder, you will look at that render and know that Mac has never climbed one in his life. You would not extend the ladder that much higher than the platform you want to get off on, becasue you would want to climb up over the ladder, not get off the side (and unbalance it, and prob fall to your death). Second.. when you escape the warehouse, you are taking a young girl with you. One who is traumatized, and prob hasnt been fed very well. You expect this young girl to be able to handle that ladder by herself? "Cant he just carry her" was his reply. Sure... MC can just pick her up, and get on this rickety fucking ladder FROM THE SIDE, and climb down with her in his arms. No fucking problem Mac. Piece of cake. "Its fine bro"

Most of the fingering-heather-in-bathroom scene was fucked up. None of the renders matched the text except the first 3-4. He actually rendered them leaving the bathroom after doing it, then going back into it to finish their talk before leaving... like WHY? Why leave the bathroom, then go back in to talk? WHY?

Here, as the text says, you can clearly see his mouth on her nipple. Right?
image.png


Walking down the stairs. Maybe they are moonwalking backwards?

View attachment 47034
And this is the global signal for "shush" right?
View attachment 47035
Its like he is trying to test if he can cross his eyes.

There were about... 4-5 more things he cut corners on and was going to release, but this reply is already getting long as fuck.
OMFG, it'd be hilarious if it wasn't serious enough to cause an AVN to die. If this was a movie the blooper reel would be 10x longer than the (unfinished and abandoned) movie.
 
I know everyone's upset, I am too, but please stop bumping a dead game back to the top, we kind of want to see things going in progress

I know you tried your best Darkrift, but nothing's going to change anymore
We're all aware that Mac is not a good dev/person at this point so really, nothing else can be done, just let it die at least for now
 
This [abandoned] tag. Is this correct? That's a shame, I was really enjoying this one so far. :(
 
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