discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Apocalypse [v0.37b-LMAr2] [LEGACYUSER]

[Tigerdiamonds]

Kinda sucks this was abandoned even though their Fansly still works, with 131 subs even though the dev ghosted everyone over a year ago.


Really wish there were more devs that basicaly told the platforms, payment processors, the gov't and whoever else is responsible for that "Well, fuck you then, I'll make and release it for free out of my own pocket just to spite you!".

Devs(everyone really) needs to remember that we don't actually need these 3rd party subscription services.
Any artist is perfectly capable of making their own website, that they own and have full control over, to host their own content.
GO MAKE A DAMN PORTFOLIO
Fill it with all of your SFW work
Put a donation button that isn't a purchase and therefore does not need to be tied to any specific product that the credit-card company might object to.

Of course then they wouldn't have a captured audience of monthly autopayed subscriptions;
but I'm sure with a little research (or the help of a webdev) one could figure out how to set up their own monthly subscription.

 

[Tigerdiamonds]

Out of 5B internet users 100k is prob lowball. Most just choose not to make a public spectacle of themselves and get the attention of the gov't by basically setting up an eBay for hitmen, drugs, weapons, prostitution, etc. and make $5B in Bitcoin from it. Fun fact: the trick they used to catch him (basically physically stole his laptop CIA-style he used to run the site) would not work again, since like-minded coders made a fail safe that will destroy the laptop if someone even takes it outside designated GPS locations or tries to hack the login pw or similar. Not sure how it works but one rumor I've heard is aside from zeroing the drive it simply disengages the BMS fail-safes and overloads the internal battery on purpose until it bursts into flames or explodes.

It's funny you say "Not to make a public spectacle of themselves" because IIRC the entire reason that the silk road guy got caught was because they were unable to keep their big fat mouth shut (metaphorically it was on the internet) and was basically bragging on random forums in such a way that the authorities were able to figure out was him. 90% of the time, if you can keep your own god damn mouth shut, you'll be fine.

 

[DaddyDegen]

No daughter content? The main story isn't wrapped up.

 

[BadJM]

No daughter content? The main story isn't wrapped up.

Well yea... the game is abandoned...

 

[thrashpoint]

No daughter content? The main story isn't wrapped up.

The main story hadn't even started, according to the dev's roadmap the game was still in the prologue

 

[Nicest_Incest]

It's funny you say "Not to make a public spectacle of themselves" because IIRC the entire reason that the silk road guy got caught was because they were unable to keep their big fat mouth shut (metaphorically it was on the internet) and was basically bragging on random forums in such a way that the authorities were able to figure out was him. 90% of the time, if you can keep your own god damn mouth shut, you'll be fine.

Yeah I figured it was too much site marketing, lol. Also didn't help he went to the same library around the same time everyday. Hell with $1M, forget $5B, I woud lhave bought an RV and never stayed in the same town more than a week and never used the same wifi hotspot twice. Hell the guy coudl have retired after a few years then totally disappeared off-grid Ted Kazinski style by living on a 500-foot yacht in the middle of the Pacific far away from shipping lanes or on some island nation with no extradition treaty with the US (or Russia like Ed Snowden did).

 

[AlBetGam]

Devs(everyone really) needs to remember that we don't actually need these 3rd party subscription services.
Any artist is perfectly capable of making their own website, that they own and have full control over, to host their own content.
GO MAKE A DAMN PORTFOLIO
Fill it with all of your SFW work
Put a donation button that isn't a purchase and therefore does not need to be tied to any specific product that the credit-card company might object to.

Problem is 1. setting all that up is a lot of work especially for a game you may not be making any money off of yet (or might not have started) and 2. payment processors aren't totally retarded and they are capable of connecting the site full of loli games and art to the site full of SFW stuff with all the "I 100% swear you're not buying anything just a totally voluntary donation" stickers around the "Donate" button.

 

[Tigerdiamonds]

Problem is 1. setting all that up is a lot of work especially for a game you may not be making any money off of yet (or might not have started) and 2. payment processors aren't totally retarded and they are capable of connecting the site full of loli games and art to the site full of SFW stuff with all the "I 100% swear you're not buying anything just a totally voluntary donation" stickers around the "Donate" button.

I'm going to answer these in reverse order. First off, if the offensive product has no affiliation with your website (No mention of it, no pictures of it, smartest move is not even using the same dev name) then they can't deny your service without proving a connection. Secondly, you wouldn't be so stupid as to label your donation button anything suspicious like that; you just create and operate the website with the donation just like any portfolio with a donation link. You would simply direct people to "go buy my favorite artist a coffee"

As for the "it's too hard waah" Honestly, every single artist trying to actually do this shit as work should be making their own portfolio website like this anyway.
Honestly, we all got a little too lazy with the convenience of places like deviantart & pixiv, and the idea of letting another site have control of our data & content for the ease of use and built in audience.

 

[AlBetGam]

I'm going to answer these in reverse order. First off, if the offensive product has no affiliation with your website (No mention of it, no pictures of it, smartest move is not even using the same dev name) then they can't deny your service without proving a connection.

They're not obligated to do business with you to begin with. There isn't really a burden of proof that they have to meet to not let you use their service.

Secondly, you wouldn't be so stupid as to label your donation button anything suspicious like that; you just create and operate the website with the donation just like any portfolio with a donation link. You would simply direct people to "go buy my favorite artist a coffee"

If your audience can figure out the connection, so can the guys getting paid to check through this stuff.

As for the "it's too hard waah" Honestly, every single artist trying to actually do this shit as work should be making their own portfolio website like this anyway.
Honestly, we all got a little too lazy with the convenience of places like deviantart & pixiv, and the idea of letting another site have control of our data & content for the ease of use and built in audience.

While probably true, it's extremely hard for people to break away from a convenience once it's offered.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

If your audience can figure out the connection, so can the guys getting paid to check through this stuff.

Dunno about Patreon but SS seems to not care as long as their PP's are happy, as the "fake front project" trick most loli devs like Ketzal and Blackheart have moved to seems to be working fine since January. As long as their real project isn't on SS itself they can feign ignorance as far as their PP's go, they are not as thorough as Patreon is for whatever reason (stalking devs all over the internet for one and two their porn restrictions are just plain stupid and go far beyond what the PP's require, eg banning stepcest too while the PP's are fine with that as long as it's not actual incest, the proof is the stecpcest crap all over the internet). But yeah making one's own site and simply linking it on every AVN site while telling people "here's my tip jar on SS, but there are no links there, no progress reports, and we don't talk about what you are actually subbing for on there" are doing fine. It woudl probably work on Patreon too as long as links were paywalled or put behind private DIscords that require a sub to get access to, their spies are prob not going to pay cash just to investigate some dev and maybe ban it when they can simply make another account with different payment details like Backpage did to give the middle finger to the PP's themselves before the gov't shut them down.

I have been thinking for quiet awhile but since the PP's seem to be the puppetmasters, why don't the platforms just tell them to fuck off and simply take everyone's bank account and routing numbers and deal in e-checks and process their own damned payments? Technically anyone can do that to send/receive money, no paper check required (I do it to pay several bills every month just to avoid using the censorship/morality police and getting charged that extra transaction fee for using a CC). A headache to be sure with a million or 10 million transactions a month but at least then as far as content they can not give a fuck anymore, at least as long as it was legal, which most is due to First Amendment. Only drawback I can think of is e-check/ACH only works in the US (which is mostly fine, half the subs are in the US anyway).

 

[angband]

If your audience can figure out the connection, so can the guys getting paid to check through this stuff.

Not necessarily, the "pointers" only have to go one way, from the NSFW site to the SFW. The NSFW site presumably is chosen for being "off the beaten path" and somewhat out of public view. Not saying it is impossible to make the connection, just that one doesn't always have to be as easy as the other.

 

[Tigerdiamonds]

Not necessarily, the "pointers" only have to go one way, from the NSFW site to the SFW. The NSFW site presumably is chosen for being "off the beaten path" and somewhat out of public view. Not saying it is impossible to make the connection, just that one doesn't always have to be as easy as the other.

I think the reason they are having such a hard time wrapping their head around it is that they are too used to living in the world were sites like this can exist. They aren't used to having to do the real secret club bullshit that you do when dealing with illegal stuff in real life.

 

[angband]

I think the reason they are having such a hard time wrapping their head around it is that they are too used to living in the world were sites like this can exist. They aren't used to having to do the real secret club bullshit that you do when dealing with illegal stuff in real life.

Even a site like this would be a step up in tracing difficulty. First line of defense is having to be a member to see links. Not hard to overcome, but it means that the links don't show up on a normal search for links to the SFW site, so it would require joining the site, then doing a search while logged in. Again not difficult, but would require going in blind to all sites like this, just in case you might find a link.

Next step could be not posting links in the NSFW game description, but just a message saying, "If you want to support me, PM me for a link to my support site." Now, the site doesn't show up in searches at all, and someone searching for links has to go in to any game that "might" link to another page that interests them. And again, they are doing this blind because there is nothing linking the SFW site back to the NSFW site. This could be made even more effective by the author checking out the profiles of anyone requesting the support link, looking for a convincing posting history and other evidence of good faith before giving up the support link. Could possibly have some throwaway accounts on other sites to give to suspicious actors and see if one gets reported, which would identify whoever that link was given to as a troll.

Not totally foolproof, of course, because you are still vulnerable to "white knight" rats who go to the trouble of making convincing accounts and reporting anything they find, but that is a lot of effort to go to. Hopefully there aren't too many people with that much time on their hands. Also could be had by well-meaning people trying to help people find the donation page and posting it in the discussion, so you would want to have dev ownership of the thread to nuke these posts quickly and also make it clear to people when giving the link that it is important that they not share it.

 

[AlBetGam]

I have been thinking for quiet awhile but since the PP's seem to be the puppetmasters, why don't the platforms just tell them to fuck off and simply take everyone's bank account and routing numbers and deal in e-checks and process their own damned payments? Technically anyone can do that to send/receive money, no paper check required (I do it to pay several bills every month just to avoid using the censorship/morality police and getting charged that extra transaction fee for using a CC). A headache to be sure with a million or 10 million transactions a month but at least then as far as content they can not give a fuck anymore, at least as long as it was legal, which most is due to First Amendment. Only drawback I can think of is e-check/ACH only works in the US (which is mostly fine, half the subs are in the US anyway).

Probably doesn't make financial sense for them to go through those hoops (and the expense of making the changes to begin with) and cut off all that international business for whatever percent of their income comes from adult games with loli/incest/etc material.

Not necessarily, the "pointers" only have to go one way, from the NSFW site to the SFW. The NSFW site presumably is chosen for being "off the beaten path" and somewhat out of public view. Not saying it is impossible to make the connection, just that one doesn't always have to be as easy as the other.

That works if the investigation is only at the "what links are on this page" level. Though granted, I don't know exactly how deep platforms or processors go when looking into vendors.

 

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Overview:

The apocalypse is coming and there's nothing you can do to stop it. How
will you and yours meet the end is entirely up to you. You will primarily play a male protagonist that will progress from early adulthood to full adulthood. Your choices matter since the fate of those around you will be determined by your choices. Can they be spared? Some of them, all of them? This will be the adventure you experience but not just from one viewpoint. You can optionally see additional content from other characters perspectives via side story DLCs. Our family is on a collision course in ways none of them could ever imagine. The current content is focused on the prologue chapters as the main character makes decisions on who he will be when the end begins. These are important and affect the characters around you.

Important Note from the Dev: This is primarily about a Mother and Sister style game with a massive amount of other content. Great pains have been put in to ensure you get to experience the content you want and only the content you want with warnings before you get into a scene. The mother and sister are unavoidable.​

Spoiler: Genre

3DCG, Adventure, Anal, Animated, Big Ass, Big Tits, Combat, Corruption, Creampie, Footjob, Graphic Violence, Groping, Group Sex, Harem, Handjob, Incest, Lesbian, Loli, Male Domination, Male Protagonist, Oral Sex, Pregnancy, Rape, Romance, Shooter, Vaginal Sex, Virgin

Spoiler: Installation

1. Extract and Run

Spoiler: Changelog

.37b Changelog not provided

.37a is the new base version. It does contain all side stories.

Spoiler: Developer Notes

@Everyone
Please feel free to join us in the discord chat. It's available to everyone for free! I hang out there everyday and often drop tidbits and chat with fans and supporters. Please swing by and join the fun!

STATUS UPDATE: 2/29/24
Version .37b released for free here and discord. Contains massive changes for ANDROID ONLY.
On Android, the UI is now fixed AND the game will "update" from this version to all future version so all save games will carry over between updates. Thanks.

STATUS UPDATE: 2/27/24
Version .37a released for free here and discord.

STATUS UPDATE: 12/31/23
Version .36a released for free here.

STATUS UPDATE: 7/19/23
Version .35a released for free here. .35c being released to all supporters right now.

STATUS UPDATE: 7/9/23
Version .35b is active for $10 supporters. Final version work for .35c for $5 supporters around 1 week out.

STATUS UPDATE: 7/2/23
Version .35a is active for $25 supporters. Final version work for .35b for $10 supporters planned for this weekend.

STATUS UPDATE: 6/25/23
Version .34C is being uploaded to this site. .35a is going next to $25 supporters. Thank you!

STATUS UPDATE: 6/3/23
Version .33 is being uploaded here to all fans for free. .34 is in the process of release this weekend to Patreon supporters. Thank you!

STATUS UPDATE: 5/14/23
Version .33 is uploaded to supporters on patreon. It will be made available here on LC for free in ~2 weeks when .35 launches to supporters. Thanks!

STATUS UPDATE: 4/22/23
Version .325 (.3part2) has been uploaded for free supporters. Thank you for your interest in the game!

STATUS UPDATE: 3/12/23
Version .325 (.3part2) is uploading for subscribers and will be made free sometime mid - late April.

STATUS UPDATE: 3/05/23
Replay Gallery is improving.
New scenes in "Meet the Robinsons"
More scenes available but does have minor pathing issues. Will be corrected next release.

STATUS UPDATE: 2/20/23
Replay Gallery (basic version) now implemented. Need new playthrough.
New In-game Walkthrough/map activated by 'm' key that is far more detailed than the end chapter version.
Meet The Robinson's part 2 is done and available to supporters.

STATUS UPDATE: 2/5/23
Unfortunate Circumstances DLC is available to $25 tier supporters.

STATUS UPDATE: 1/22/23
.3part1beta for $25 tiers is available on Patreon. This contains all side stories (Meet the Robinsons, Diane Part 1, A Girl Named Ruby). .3part1_full will be available to all supporter tiers in a few days.

STATUS UPDATE: 1/3/23
Today .2 for all supporters went live on Patreon. A ton of content over .1, nearly double and a lot of polish and refinement to .1.

STATUS UPDATE: 12/23/22
Today .1E Full w/ Diane side story chapter 1 went out to all patrons. $10+ tiers also get Diane Chapter 1 + Meet the Robinsons Part 1. (Have a Happy Holiday season!)
Official working versions for Android have just been made. All future versions will include an Official Android version.

STATUS UPDATE: 12/18/22
Today the $25 gets .1E_partial. The full .1E will be out xmas weekend for all tiers! After .1E is .2 which means the next free version is coming soon!

STATUS UPDATE: 12/11/22
New version .1 updated is posted. It's the complete .1 version with all the fixes and polish that the paid version has but without the paid content. Thanks. Next free version will be .2.

STATUS UPDATE: 12/07/22

A new version .1 free will be posted here... and it won't require a separate patch. It will include bug fixes and content improvements./*

Spoiler: NTR Statement

I am going to clarify any confusion right now regarding NTR and Apocalypse.
Please read.

NTR & APOCALYPSE
NOT GOING TO BE IN GAME.

For those confused. Continue reading.
NTR (Netorare) = "Netorare (寝取られ, lit. "cuckold", also commonly abbreviated as NTR) is a notoriously controversial genre of

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What will be in game?
There is an OPTION for the main character to father a male child (in the prologue) that can grow up eventually and join him during the main sequence story in Apocalypse. When the main character (you) rescue him, in the main story, he will have a girlfriend named Shelby. Once they are rescued you will, as the player,
be given a choice. He can stay with the group (non-sexually), he can leave with his girlfriend, or he can remain as another male to allow OPTIONAL DP and other MMF and MMg scenes.

FAQ:
Are all males in the game 'Alpha' males? Yes.
Is there any content requiring a second male? No.
Can I rescue the son and not have him in the rest of the game? Yes
If I don't send him away, does he do anything with the girls independent of the MC? No
Is this a Harem/Impregnation Game? 2,000,000,000,000,000%
If I would like another male or trans-female in the game will that be an OPTION? Yes
Are other males or trans-females required to play? NO
Are the options regarding your decisions obvious before you make them? YES - Read the warnings
Are there warnings for content that I don't like? YES, all scenes have warnings
I don't care about warnings, do I have to click through warnings every time? No. You can choose an option on the first warning to avoid future warnings (always allow content x).
Can I choose between some content I like and other I don't? Yes, each 'genre' has it's own warnings and allowances.
But mom/sister having sex while I'm there is NTR! Why do you have that? No it's not. Get a grip on reality.
Are there politics in the game? No. Stop seeing what isn't there. It's just a porn story.
Are there going to be epic amounts of loli's to be impregnated? 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000%


I want hot bitches to impregnate, a harem to build, monsters to slay, and no NTR!
Well fucking download it and get started! I would love you being a fan of my game! Join the discord cuz I want to hear from you! Even if you are a hater and love being a cuck.

One last thing. The big one is 18. ;-) Why the hell aren't you downloading and playing yet?
Look forward to speaking with you on ! It's 100% Free!

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Spoiler: Current Sexual Character Listing

Prologue Characters
Emily - Mother / Female / Must Be Impregnated
April - Sister / Female / Must Be Impregnated
Lancy - Friend / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Dr. Chiba - Doctor / Genetic Modified Female / Can Be Impregnated
Mary - Future Wife / Female / Will Be Impregnated
Emma - Mary's Sister / Female / Currently Pregnant
Brenna - Tailor Store Clerk / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Gayll - Lingerie Store Owner / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Indy - Gayll's Sister / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Evelyn - Academy Student / Intersex / Can Be Impregnated / Avoidable and Can be Removed from Game
Olivia - Orphan / Female / Can Be Impregnated

Side Story/DLC Characters
Emma - Same from Above but now Older
Brittany - Emma's Oldest Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Robert - Emma's Son / Male / Avoidable and Can be Removed from Game
Anna - Emma's Youngest Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Diane - Secret / Female / Secret
Ruby - Friend / Trans-Female / Avoidable and Can be Removed from Game
Amy - Diane's 'sister' / Female
Brenna - Same from Above but now Older
Lauren - Brenna's Oldest Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Michelle - Brenna's Youngest Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated

Main Story Characters
Tiffany - Your Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Katrina - April's Oldest Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Star - April's Youngest Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated
Vivian - Lancy's Daughter / Female / Can Be Impregnated
More to Come.

Will Apocalypse Feature NTR? No, read here.
Please note. All content (yes ALL) passes from paid to free over time.
I appreciate all supporters and fans. Supporters get the leg up but the fans will get ALL content eventually.

NOTICE: DROID VERSION .37b HAS NEW UI AND SAVES WILL PERSIST!
NOTICE: THE GAMECODE TO UNLOCK ALL CONTENT IS: LegacyUser#1

IF YOU COMPLAIN THAT YOU CAN'T UNLOCK CONTENT, SEE ABOVE. START A NEW GAME AND ENTER THE GAMECODE!
IT'S FREE! IT WON'T CHANGE. STEAL IT, ADVERTISE IT, WHATEVER! JUST DON'T ASK "Why you hiding content behind a game code?!"
ANSWER: "I'm not, it's free you just didn't read. Look above, enter the game code and go back to your binky."
***NOTICE*** IF YOU SAVED AFTER YOU WOKE UP in .33 TO A BEEPING SOUND, SCROLL BACK TO BEFORE YOU SLEEP!!!!! YOU WILL GET A PATH ERROR AND MISS SCENES IF YOU DON'T!!!!

***The game is still abandoned, someone was just kind enough to provide us with the final update.***

Win/Linux: - -

Spoiler: DOWNLOADS: .37a Full Version with ALL DLC

Windows:
Mac:
Android (Droid Only .37b): -

Special Note: Droid version .37b will now keep saves between updates and UI is fixed.
'W' or 'M' Activates the ingame walkthrough map. Also has button.
'T' closes or opens the timeline map. Also has button.

Other:
Transparent textbox mod
Unofficial compressed
FRENCH TRANSLATION
META Discussion and Shit-Talk thread.

Spoiler: Previews

Notice: All DLCs are in the current version.​

I will never understand why this was abandoned it only had potential

 

[S7aard]

I will never understand why this was abandoned it only had potential

because the dev went awol.
As far as we know, he could be dead

 

[BeowulfKnight]

because the dev went awol.
As far as we know, he could be dead

I doubt dead because they popped online about 4 times after it was abandoned and before leaving for good. However, I have no way of knowing for sure, I hope they are well cause his games are amazing.

 

[yoyomistro]

I will never understand why this was abandoned it only had potential

They kept getting banned off of monetization platforms. You can't demand someone works for free.

 

[XIa]

They kept getting banned off of monetization platforms. You can't demand someone works for free.

Oh thats a valid reason lol

 

[Nicest_Incest]

They kept getting banned off of monetization platforms. You can't demand someone works for free.

They should have took a page from the Mafia playbook and just made a front/subsidization project like loli devs are now doing. Sub for the fake/vanilla crap that seldom gets updated, stay for the lolis on other off-platform sites like here.