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[garden]

oh yess

i call in sick this morning, best decision of the week

 

[jsmith666]

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All caught up from overnight.

 

[kikomascado]

oh yess

i call in sick this morning, best decision of the week

How it works in the US? You have some X days every Y days to call in sick?

 

[Lechrs]

Just checking in briefly this morning before I have to run...

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I leave you to ponder this profound musing:

Any man, in the right situation, is capable of murder.
But not any man is capable of being a good camper.
So, murder and camping are not as similar as you might think.

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[HTYYHRK]

How it works in the US? You have some X days every Y days to call in sick?

Depends on your employer. Some places have separate discretionary time off and sick time off, some only have discretionary that employees use for both, some have unlimited time off. Also a lot of people in the US are own their own business or work as contractors where they would set their own schedule.

 

[Hexborn_Magus]

How it works in the US? You have some X days every Y days to call in sick?

You call in sick, and your boss mentally penalizes you for not being a "team player" and working yourself to death.

 

[anon670-1]

How it works in the US? You have some X days every Y days to call in sick?

gonna sound like a cop out answer but that would vary from job to job each company has their own policy, then theres government positions

eta HTYYHRK beat me to it and explained it way better!

 

[HTYYHRK]

You call in sick, and your boss mentally penalizes you for not being a "team player" and working yourself to death.

I've heard a lot of stories of bosses like this, thankfully I've never had one.

 

[jsmith666]

How it works in the US? You have some X days every Y days to call in sick?

Depends on the company. Some will allow so many call offs in x amount of time, some will give you x amount of paid days off a year, and whether you use them for vacation or sick time is your business. Some will let you call off as much as you want, but you don't get sick pay. There are several ways it can work.

 

[TheDude14]

You call in sick, and your boss mentally penalizes you for not being a "team player" and working yourself to death.

Shit at the end of each month if I called in sick I'm sure I'd either get a guilt trip or they'd beg me to come in. I threatened a few months back about calling in sick the last day because they were starting to get to pushy and annoying me with all the stuff they throw at me at the end of the month. Since then every time i seem annoyed the bosses always come up to me and ask if I'm ok or if I need any help. There is a backup shipper but he's not nearly as good or as quick as me.

 

[kikomascado]

Depends on your employer. Some places have separate discretionary time off and sick time off, some only have discretionary that employees use for both, some have unlimited time off. Also a lot of people in the US are own their own business or work as contractors where they would set their own schedule.

You call in sick, and your boss mentally penalizes you for not being a "team player" and working yourself to death.

gonna sound like a cop out answer but that would vary from job to job each company has their own policy, then theres goverment positions

Here we have federal laws that dictate how these things are handled.
Here all workers have the right to miss work if it's justified (like a sick note/medical certificate) and the employer can't punish you for doing so.
At least on theory, because some bosses will make up some excuse to fire you if you use it much, even if you have some serious sickness. Hahaha
So I get kinda confused by how it is on the States.

 

[TheDude14]

Here we have federal laws that dictate how these things are handled.
Here all workers have the right to miss work if it's justified (like a sick note/medical certificate) and the employer can't punish you for doing so.
At least on theory, because some bosses will make up some excuse to fire you if you use it much, even if you have some serious sickness. Hahaha
So I get kinda confused by how it is on the States.

When my last job let me go all they told me was your no longer needed. Wouldn't even give me a legit reason. Plus they had all the big head honchos there like I was going to flip out. All i did was laugh and told them good luck. I still talk to a few people there and they aren't running anywhere near as well as it was when I was there.

 

[anon670-1]

Here we have federal laws that dictate how these things are handled.
Here all workers have the right to miss work if it's justified (like a sick note/medical certificate) and the employer can't punish you for doing so.

This sounds way better honestly wished the states had something like that

At least on theory, because some bosses will make up some excuse to fire you if you use it much, even if you have some serious sickness. Hahaha

Possible to sue the employer if they do that? Unless they laid down the proper paper trail beforehand I guess

 

[uncbuck]

Hopping in my Tardis with my "companions" to go back to where I left off in the thread

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[garden]

How it works in the US? You have some X days every Y days to call in sick?

not in the USA, but pretty much like that yes, work convention give you X amount of sick day per year, if you take more then 2 in a row you need a medical paper.

Now time for the

 

[kikomascado]

When my last job let me go all they told me was your no longer needed. Wouldn't even give me a legit reason. Plus they had all the big head honchos there like I was going to flip out. All i did was laugh and told them good luck. I still talk to a few people there and they aren't running anywhere near as well as it was when I was there.

That's shitty. Here if the company fire someone without a justified reason, they have to pay them up to 6 months salary while the fired person search for another job.
If it's justified, like he messed up big, then well, their loss. Hahaha

This sounds way better honestly wished the states had something like that

It's like this as to no let the employer take advantage of the employee.
It's also the worker right by law 30 day paid vacation every year, 13th monthly salary as a bonus, and others, but nowadays many people wants for it to end saying that "the government shouldn't meddle with private businesses!"
Sure, the government take a "piece" of your salary, but I think almost every country must have this, and in our case the pros far outweight the cons in my opinion.

Possible to sue the employer if they do that? Unless they laid down the proper paper trail beforehand I guess

Yes. Like I answered above, they can't fire people without a reason, so if they want to do it, they have to pay the fees or come up with a reason.
If the reason is bullshit, you can open a labor lawsuit to get them to pay the fees that you should have since they fired you for no reason. It can takes lots of time, but it's an option.
Also, you can quit if the employer is doing something he shouldn't have (like overworking you, paying late and such), and while quiting you don't have any right to those fees, you can also open a lawsuit to get them, if you manage to prove that the employer was on the wrong.
But since most companies are shitty, it can hinder your job applications, since they'll see on your history that you had legal disputes in the past, and may not want to hire you.

(I don't think fees are the right term, but I don't know what is. It's an monetary aid)

 

[HTYYHRK]

Here we have federal laws that dictate how these things are handled.
Here all workers have the right to miss work if it's justified (like a sick note/medical certificate) and the employer can't punish you for doing so.
At least on theory, because some bosses will make up some excuse to fire you if you use it much, even if you have some serious sickness. Hahaha
So I get kinda confused by how it is on the States.

There are some state and federal laws that deal with leave, but generally there isn't a legal requirement for paid leave, only to allow for unpaid leave. Most states allow "at-will" employment so a person can be fired without cause, although a lot of them force employers to pay for unemployment benefits for some time after if they don't show cause for dismissal. That notwithstanding most jobs have paid leave of some kind because nobody will join if they don't.

 

[User_108364]

There are some state and federal laws that deal with leave, but generally there isn't a legal requirement for paid leave, only to allow for unpaid leave. Most states allow "at-will" employment so a person can be fired without cause, although a lot of them force employers to pay for unemployment benefits for some time after if they don't show cause for dismissal. That notwithstanding most jobs have paid leave of some kind because nobody will join if they don't.

But in general US labor laws be like

 

[uncbuck]

Happy Thursday!

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[TheDude14]

That's shitty. Here if the company fire someone without a justified reason, they have to pay them up to 6 months salary while the fired person search for another job.
If it's justified, like he messed up big, then well, their loss. Hahaha

Well I filed for unemployment. They fought it. After I got the job I'm at now unemployment contacted me to get my side of what happened. Apparently They couldn't give unemployment a justified reason. So I got paid for the time between.