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[HTYYHRK]

Here we have federal laws that dictate how these things are handled.
Here all workers have the right to miss work if it's justified (like a sick note/medical certificate) and the employer can't punish you for doing so.
At least on theory, because some bosses will make up some excuse to fire you if you use it much, even if you have some serious sickness. Hahaha
So I get kinda confused by how it is on the States.

There are some state and federal laws that deal with leave, but generally there isn't a legal requirement for paid leave, only to allow for unpaid leave. Most states allow "at-will" employment so a person can be fired without cause, although a lot of them force employers to pay for unemployment benefits for some time after if they don't show cause for dismissal. That notwithstanding most jobs have paid leave of some kind because nobody will join if they don't.

 

[User_108364]

There are some state and federal laws that deal with leave, but generally there isn't a legal requirement for paid leave, only to allow for unpaid leave. Most states allow "at-will" employment so a person can be fired without cause, although a lot of them force employers to pay for unemployment benefits for some time after if they don't show cause for dismissal. That notwithstanding most jobs have paid leave of some kind because nobody will join if they don't.

But in general US labor laws be like

 

[uncbuck]

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[TheDude14]

That's shitty. Here if the company fire someone without a justified reason, they have to pay them up to 6 months salary while the fired person search for another job.
If it's justified, like he messed up big, then well, their loss. Hahaha

Well I filed for unemployment. They fought it. After I got the job I'm at now unemployment contacted me to get my side of what happened. Apparently They couldn't give unemployment a justified reason. So I got paid for the time between.

 

[robotar]

But in general US labor laws be like

If you die while working the company will find a way to sue your relatives because you failed to deliver your project on time

 

[Squeeky]

There are some state and federal laws that deal with leave, but generally there isn't a legal requirement for paid leave, only to allow for unpaid leave. Most states allow "at-will" employment so a person can be fired without cause, although a lot of them force employers to pay for unemployment benefits for some time after if they don't show cause for dismissal. That notwithstanding most jobs have paid leave of some kind because nobody will join if they don't.

The big joke that some employers have been going with is "unlimited vacation" which sound nice, but because you aren't granted X days per year, and a lot of people here work too much, the net result is people taking less vacation than they should.
The limiter is "you must complete the work assigned to you" so you can't just take every day off.

By law if a company gives you X days off per year, if you leave the company for any reason (fired, quit, layoff) the company owes you pay for any untaken days off. With "unlimited vacation" there is no days off granted, so no financial liability for the company. Some states like California have it in the law that if a company changes from granted time off to unlimited, they have to record for every employee how many days they had saved up and pay them for those days when they leave. And that balance is not affected by taking time after the change, as that would be unequal treatment between someone who had time saved and someone who didn't.

There are pros and cons to the American "Right-to-Work" laws a lot of states have. You can leave any time you want without notice, and you can be fired for any reason. But if you want a good reference you don't just quit, so it's a bit one-sided on who benefits.

 

[kikomascado]

Well I filed for unemployment. They fought it. After I got the job I'm at now unemployment contacted me to get my side of what happened. Apparently They couldn't give unemployment a justified reason. So I got paid for the time between.

Oh, that's better. So that part isn't that different from here, then.
I think that the difference is that here by default they'll already pay the benefit, or they will present a reason for the termination.
It's kinda automatic, you don't have to resort to the authorities unless they are lying about the justification.

 

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[anon670-1]

It's also the worker right by law 30 day paid vacation every year, 13th monthly salary as a bonus, and others, but nowadays many people wants for it to end saying that "the government shouldn't meddle with private businesses!" Sure, the government take a "piece" of your salary, but I think almost every country must have this, and in our case the pros far outweight the cons in my opinion.

I completely agree with you I would gladly agree to give up a portion of my pay as a tradeoff for those benefits you described. I don't understand how some people are so thoroughly convinced that businesses care about them as if they wouldn't fuck them over every which way in a heartbeat to save some shekels

 

[zark]

We are going to have to almost completely rebuilt how society works as robot and AI come a long.

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[zark]

The rich will no longer need the poor to work or to keep them safe. With an army of robot on there side it will just be a question. We they let us live seeing as it cost them nothing, keep us as pets, or kill us just to be safe?

 

[kikomascado]

I completely agree with you I would gladly agree to give up a portion of my pay as a tradeoff for those benefits you described. I don't understand how some people are so thoroughly convinced that businesses care about them as if they wouldn't fuck them over every which way in a heartbeat to save some shekels

That's a common occurrence here.
As far as I remember with every plane ticket you also got to take one baggage with you free of charge, but then some years ago the travel agencies announced that they would stopped doing that.
Many people celebrated it because "then they could lower the ticket price and it would be cheaper for those who don't bring luggage".
In reality the price stayed the same, but now you had to pay extra for the luggage.
The same thing happens to this day with half price for students and for work salary.
Some people swears that without the government acting sort like a middle man, the companies would gladly keep paying all the benefits, but you would receive even more, because there wouldn't be anything to the government!

 

[User_108364]

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[garden]

We are going to have to almost completely rebuilt how society works as robot and AI come a long.

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can't wait for the toy alley in walmart to be like

 

[zark]

U.B.I. will be needed if they don't just kill us (I think the odd of them right out killing us as low but not 0) The luddites will push to stop it, think some how this will save there work/ purpose

 

[User_114674]

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[User_108364]

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[User_114674]

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[Slumdum]

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[InvaderZim]

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Didn't say tasted worse, one taste better. There's a small but nuanced difference.

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"Of course I don't prefer the taste of pussy, I'm not a fu*king lesbian"