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[EggHeadedMan]

I am so close yet still so far from the goal. Ill get there eventually, especially with how close ive gotten in a day.

 

[Xakorik]

I am so close yet still so far from the goal. Ill get there eventually, especially with how close ive gotten in a day.

You can do it!

 

[Redyscom]

I am so close yet still so far from the goal. Ill get there eventually, especially with how close ive gotten in a day.

Technically, you've only been at it for one day, so you're off to a great start.

 

[Dip!]

Apparently ATF has banned the mention of LewdCorner due to "Severe AI rule difference".

The post that was deleted was me suggesting to the dev that they join LewdCorner

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Why would that matter? Or do they have a extreme stance on ai and/or is scared of it? I mean i hope they don't burn bridges because these communities need to support each other.


My stance on ai...just don't use it maliciously or if you have the money you should find an artist.

I'm sure a lot of people would pay artist of they could. Like if i made a game, i have not enough money and no art skills. So ai would be my only option and if i get enough financial support then i would get a artist.

I personally think the fear is a bit over done. Nothing can stop unless some major events happen like sora shutting down. But even then there will always ppeople using it. If you hate ai so much then instead of just saying things and banning it, which does nothing. Find those people who use ai and see if you can provide the money for them to pay an artist. If they say no then your sol.

Because i personally believe that (not thinking about companies with money) the introduction of ai did not change much. Its a similar case of pirating with a mock buster flare.

If people like a product (artist) and can afford it. They will pay. You'll also have people who just don't want to pay.

Besides the ai bubble is unsustainable, recently again with sora right after the Disney partnership.

Not enough people use it so the cost to generate then they make back.

The ai art scare is a fad if it keeps going this way.

These ai art use real art and thats a copyright issue. No different when someone steals assists from other video games. So legal action should be taken, especially by these bigger companies that can afford lawyers.

Ai art will never fully go away. All you can hope is legel actions make it harder for and is enforced to stop theft.

Again treating it like asset theft in games i think is a good starting point.



But like i said earlier

If people like a product (artist) and can afford it. They will pay. You'll also have people who just don't want to pay.


Right now i advise ALL artists to sign their work and ai art programs should be legally required to have an ai watermark taht can't be removed legally.

That's off the top of my head so feel free to call me out or criticize me. I ant proof reading this.

 

[Xakorik]

Why would that matter? Or do they have a extreme stance on ai and/or is scared of it? I mean i hope they don't burn bridges because these communities need to support each other.


My stance on ai...just don't use it maliciously or if you have the money you should find an artist.

I'm sure a lot of people would pay artist of they could. Like if i made a game, i have not enough money and no art skills. So ai would be my only option and if i get enough financial support then i would get a artist.

I personally think the fear is a bit over done. Nothing can stop unless some major events happen like sora shutting down. But even then there will always ppeople using it. If you hate ai so much then instead of just saying things and banning it, which does nothing. Find those people who use ai and see if you can provide the money for them to pay an artist. If they say no then your sol.

Because i personally believe that (not thinking about companies with money) the introduction of ai did not change much. Its a similar case of pirating with a mock buster flare.

If people like a product (artist) and can afford it. They will pay. You'll also have people who just don't want to pay.

Besides the ai bubble is unsustainable, recently again with sora right after the Disney partnership.

Not enough people use it so the cost to generate then they make back.

The ai art scare is a fad if it keeps going this way.

These ai art use real art and thats a copyright issue. No different when someone steals assists from other video games. So legal action should be taken, especially by these bigger companies that can afford lawyers.

Ai art will never fully go away. All you can hope is legel actions make it harder for and is enforced to stop theft.

Again treating it like asset theft in games i think is a good starting point.



But like i said earlier

If people like a product (artist) and can afford it. They will pay. You'll also have people who just don't want to pay.


Right now i advise ALL artists to sign their work and ai art programs should be legally required to have an ai watermark taht can't be removed legally.

That's off the top of my head so feel free to call me out or criticize me. I ant proof reading this.

I would guess it's the realistic AI art that they might have issue with.

 

[Dip!]

I would guess it's the realistic AI art that they might have issue with.

Ok thats different and i can understand. But still outright banning lewdcorner is a bit bridge burny. As long as the site owners don't hate each other i suppose.

 

[vampirecreatur]

Yah coffee is definitely a smoother lower amount of caffeine it feels sometimes. I need the higher caffeine doses to get any effect and it sucks cause if i go without it for a day or 2 i get a migraine. and migraines are the absolute worst when it is caused by caffeine.

Thats true though. It does do that because caffeine is addictive and caffeine withdrawal is a pretty bad thing. I used get migraine every day, then I started to wonder why, and the doctors didnt give a shit or want to bother find out. I looked into it a lot, then somehow figured caffeine helps reduce it. Then I gave up sugar (mostly) and reduced my caffeine to 3 cups a day. am, lunch and after dinner, and so far its going pretty good apart from the shitty cravings for candy and chocolate, but im being strict and want healthy (as possible) diet. bla bla, but im not likely to ever stop coffee. Its one of the greatest (food related) pleasures I have and I feel it is actually healthy in moderation.

Coffee rules, then second place will be tea when I feel in mood

 

[Dip!]

Man to text walls in a few hours of each other...i must be in a mood or something.

 

[Redyscom]

Ok thats different and i can understand. But still outright banning lewdcorner is a bit bridge burny. As long as the site owners don't hate each other i suppose.

It’s a bit ironic and hypocritical. Because the fact that we don’t ban everything related to ATF hurts us more than them allowing LewdCorner to be mentioned. If you know the topics and things they talk about on ATF, you know what I mean.
I’m not trying to demonize them; they’re free to do whatever they want, and I’m glad they have a space to do so. I’m just saying that this measure is hypocritical.

It doesn't really matter, as I said; it's their forum, their rules—they can do whatever they want.

 

[Dip!]

It’s a bit ironic and hypocritical. Because the fact that we don’t ban everything related to ATF hurts us more than them allowing LewdCorner to be mentioned. If you know the topics and things they talk about on ATF, you know what I mean.
I’m not trying to demonize them; they’re free to do whatever they want, and I’m glad they have a space to do so. I’m just saying that this measure is hypocritical.

It doesn't really matter, as I said; it's their forum, their rules—they can do whatever they want.

And incase i forget to mention, i don't use atf forum so idk what they talk about there.

 

[Xakorik]

It’s a bit ironic and hypocritical. Because the fact that we don’t ban everything related to ATF hurts us more than them allowing LewdCorner to be mentioned. If you know the topics and things they talk about on ATF, you know what I mean.
I’m not trying to demonize them; they’re free to do whatever they want, and I’m glad they have a space to do so. I’m just saying that this measure is hypocritical.

It doesn't really matter, as I said; it's their forum, their rules—they can do whatever they want.

THAT section is the one place I never really visited on ATF, I was there mostly for games and mods plus booru.

 

[Redyscom]

And incase i forget to mention, i don't use atf forum so idk what they talk about there.

Do you know what the “gray area” is? Well, their understanding of “gray” is closer to obsidian than to a stone.
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THAT section is the one place I never really visited on ATF, I was there mostly for games and mods plus booru.

When I was using ATF, I went through all the threads just out of curiosity. I won’t go into details because that would be rude, but I read things I expected to come across only while browsing onion sites with Tor.

 

[Dip!]

Do you know what the “gray area” is? Well, their understanding of “gray” is closer to obsidian than to a stone.

Well, at least the people coming here are nice. Besides, i think them almost shutting down allowed enough people to know the site that shall not be named.

But also idk in what direction that obsidian goes. But i guess thats irrelevant.

 

[Redyscom]

Well, at least the people coming here are nice. Besides, i think them almost shutting down allowed enough people to know the site that shall not be named.

But also idk in what direction that obsidian goes. But i guess thats irrelevant.

I can tell you that they’re strict when it comes to what’s illegal. Anything IRL is completely off-limits, and you’ll face serious consequences. But they tend to play very close to the edge with their role-playing, chats, talks, and things like that. Needless to mention AI art.

I really don't want to keep talking about this. I'll just leave it at that: it's their forum and they can do whatever they want, and that's fine.

 

[Dip!]

I can tell you that they’re strict when it comes to what’s illegal. Anything IRL is completely off-limits, and you’ll face serious consequences. But they tend to play very close to the edge with their role-playing, chats, talks, and things like that. Needless to mention AI art.

The more you explain the more confusing and random on the ban of the lewd corner name but I'm not gonna theorize. No point in it and I'm not bored enough. I'm just happy i found a place im general that at least tries to get games with the tags i want. Plus, the monopoly on splatoon.

 

[EggHeadedMan]

Technically, you've only been at it for one day, so you're off to a great start.

I agree. Its not difficult and it is fun to simply browse and chat so it all works out. That makes it easier to come back and just check out more and even chat more when able.

Thats true though. It does do that because caffeine is addictive and caffeine withdrawal is a pretty bad thing. I used get migraine every day, then I started to wonder why, and the doctors didnt give a shit or want to bother find out. I looked into it a lot, then somehow figured caffeine helps reduce it. Then I gave up sugar (mostly) and reduced my caffeine to 3 cups a day. am, lunch and after dinner, and so far its going pretty good apart from the shitty cravings for candy and chocolate, but im being strict and want healthy (as possible) diet. bla bla, but im not likely to ever stop coffee. Its one of the greatest (food related) pleasures I have and I feel it is actually healthy in moderation.

Coffee rules, then second place will be tea when I feel in mood

Yah cutting out sugar was hard for me at first but now its super easy to ignore. And caffeine while giving me energy also helps me relax. I might make some coffee now though. I want some i think.

 

[Dip!]

You know, one way you could gamble for coins on this site is gather some people and play side effects or spider roulette or something.


Edit.
I say this because i remember seeing the ability to transfer coins.

 

[luciddream]

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You reminded me of this and now you must suffer.

Well as someone who watched all of Xavier: Renegade Angel I'm used to the weird.

 

[EggHeadedMan]

You know, one way you could gamble for coins on this site is gather some people and play side effects or spider roulette or something.


Edit.
I say this because i remember seeing the ability to transfer coins.

My luck is not there. Id lose everything in like 2 seconds. I am terrible with gambling.

 

[ObservantShadow]

Why would that matter? Or do they have a extreme stance on ai and/or is scared of it? I mean i hope they don't burn bridges because these communities need to support each other.


My stance on ai...just don't use it maliciously or if you have the money you should find an artist.

I'm sure a lot of people would pay artist of they could. Like if i made a game, i have not enough money and no art skills. So ai would be my only option and if i get enough financial support then i would get a artist.

I personally think the fear is a bit over done. Nothing can stop unless some major events happen like sora shutting down. But even then there will always ppeople using it. If you hate ai so much then instead of just saying things and banning it, which does nothing. Find those people who use ai and see if you can provide the money for them to pay an artist. If they say no then your sol.

Because i personally believe that (not thinking about companies with money) the introduction of ai did not change much. Its a similar case of pirating with a mock buster flare.

If people like a product (artist) and can afford it. They will pay. You'll also have people who just don't want to pay.

Besides the ai bubble is unsustainable, recently again with sora right after the Disney partnership.

Not enough people use it so the cost to generate then they make back.

The ai art scare is a fad if it keeps going this way.

These ai art use real art and thats a copyright issue. No different when someone steals assists from other video games. So legal action should be taken, especially by these bigger companies that can afford lawyers.

Ai art will never fully go away. All you can hope is legel actions make it harder for and is enforced to stop theft.

Again treating it like asset theft in games i think is a good starting point.



But like i said earlier

If people like a product (artist) and can afford it. They will pay. You'll also have people who just don't want to pay.


Right now i advise ALL artists to sign their work and ai art programs should be legally required to have an ai watermark taht can't be removed legally.

That's off the top of my head so feel free to call me out or criticize me. I ant proof reading this.

Their main rule about AI prohibits photorealistic skins faces and eyes for loli and shota