discussion Do you like AI and what do ya think about it being in new games?

[Diosmios45]

I like the use of AI in porn games.

 

[SeveredRealms]

At this time with AI being so new and many places putting massive restrictions on how it is creating characters I think it is only going to end up hurting the AVN industry and the character side of it should be left out for now. It does not help that some idiots are taking it too far and drawing even more attention to this "New" art style. Am I against it? At this time I am 100% against it being used this way. That may change down the road as things change with the restrictions placed on it and the idiots stop abusing it.

Now I do think AI could be a great tool for environment creation. Personally I have not tried it yet but if I could and knew what programs to use I might be inclined to see what I could come up with. Now as for it being on this site. . . . I was one for not allowing it at all from the start. No one listened to the old man... Look what happened. It was allowed then shit hit the fan just like I knew it would and we had to piss people off by creating a special section for it...... Then the shit got deeper and we had to remove 90% of it from the site pissing even more people off. This AI stuff has caused the moderators and admins nothing but giant headaches and a shit ton of work. So for now I really wish it was a non topic and well not on LC till things get figured out.

SeveredRealms

 

[greggchozori]

AI has been around in some form for a long time now. With writing I could care less as technically all writing is chunks of existing writing, but with art it's a bit more gray. As long as nobody is profiting off of the porn game I have no complaints. However, AI art is still lacking in a lot of ways and can also be quite obvious. Until it improves I'd rather no see it in games.

 

[Gorden]

It is good

 

[Kernist]

If done well, it's good, I don't know why so many people oppose it.

 

[LewisCarroll]

AI has really pushed games to the next level. Whether that is a good or bad thing in the end is up to history. AI isn't a fix all nor is it going to put a lot of people out of a job anytime soon. I've been trying to use it for art and so far it's more miss than hit. If the 5090 ever comes down to a reasonable price it would cut down my wait times by about 1/3. I'm really happy that I got my GPU six months ago. They're going for x2 right now on Amazon and NewEgg

 

[peyiwe95]

I think the potential is there for a whole new level of content, but no one has been able to execute it better than other existing tools yet. The few AI games I've spun up had really low script line to render ratios with only a fraction of the renders not having major issues.

 

[Magooo]

It is a useful tool and I like it.

 

[rocketsheep]

AI isn't quite there yet, but close. And developers haven't learned how to use it best yet. AI is less effort but currently produces poorer results. So naturally it doesn't attract the best developers right now.

It's probably going to take less than a year until AI has advanced to the point that some of the best games use AI to create the images. But for now it's all either experimental or very poorly done.

 

[jimmyNeutron]

I like the use of AI in most ocasions

 

[as666]

I think not until you get more consistency, currently ia-generated images still look very strange.

 

[Rads95]

Depends of the game. For small developers, it may be a usefull tool to make game better. But most use it wrong, just generic images without soul, that is laziness.

For other hand, huge corporation like Amazon Games, or Blizzard, use AI to save cost and it is shame in mi opinion. The AI voice actors... man, hire a proffesional, pls.

 

[miniYoumu]

All things being equal, I would greatly prefer if its use was tagged in some way. And I generally prefer "non-AI" media on principle.

That being said, I can't deny that a lot of it does look or read quite well. We're deep in the "Wild West" phase of this, so it's going to be a few years at least until we get a sense of how things are going to go.

 

[Freyr]

If done well, it's good, I don't know why so many people oppose it.

I think it is because AI mimics, but not quite replaces, real craftsmanship.

It takes talent, but also time and effort to learn how to draw. And the same applies (in a different way) to 3d rendering. And of course writing as well.

AI is a matter of entering the correct promt (which, admittedly, is kind of a craft as well) and then waiting for the computer.

Perhaps you can compare it to the situation where you are looking for something to decorate your wall with. You can choose between a reproduction of a Matisse, or a real work by some unknown artist in a similar style. The Matisse is probably objectively better, but I would probably prefer the unknown work because it is "real".

Personally, I am mainly interested in these games because of the story. If AI enables some guy who has an excellent story idea, but no graphics skills nor a good command of the English language, to still make a game, then I am in favor of it. But that game will (as a matter of fact) compete with other games which do have "hand made" art.

In the end I guess I just see it as a kind of lazy and inferior way to produce graphics. I have the same opinion about Honey Select, Koikatsu and similar art styles. It does the job but it is lazy. In some cases, the story or gameplay make up for that short coming.

 

[Seo In-guk]

With all due respect, it's boring and I don't feel comfortable with its characters, I prefer 3dcg

 

[Dummy256]

AI is still lacking but it'll improve - of this I'm certain.

 

[fernandotorres]

I don't like using AI, maybe in the story, but in the visuals, AI definitely doesn't convey emotion. Every image looks like the same as the previous one. He cannot distinguish between sad, spoiled, happy, crying, hopeless, too friendly or hostile. Everyone looks the same. If these things don't happen, the story alone doesn't work.

 

[DisguisedLizard]

I like AI but not for images / animation I don't know about making stories with AI

 

[BuBiKe]

I find AI to be generally uninteresting (and kind of ugly). I honestly don't get all the hype around it.

 

[ilion7]

Absolute deal-breaker. I consider game devs to be artists. Using AI shows laziness and lack of love from the game creator with their game.