discussion NTR is not a dream, its a nightmare. Just say NO to NTR!

[Vulky]

I get some people have past traumas about being cheated and they play a VN believing they are the MC, so you're against the possibility of netorare happening, that's fine I understand. But what's the problem with netori? I mean, you don't like MC to win a girl against an antagonist? Why is the trauma associated with that? Solidarity between male characters? I don't understand. Netori is a success for MC, not a defeat.

 

[kodex]

I was having a discussion on a reddit forum about the topic, and apparently, the great majority of Netorare "enjoyers" actually identify with the external cheater. Weird, I know, since Netori exists and you can actually play as the guy stealing girls, but somehow the reversed perspective gives them ... enjoyment, I guess?

 

[Coomer1887]

I have a question do anyone know any ntr games where the mc is the BULL and NOT the cuck.

 

[Vulky]

I have a question do anyone know any ntr games where the mc is the BULL and NOT the cuck.

You're looking for NETORI. So on f-95 you must select "cheating" tag, not "netorare" in Latest Updates. But not all results will contain precisely NETORI (that means getting a girl that is in a relation with another male). In this website at the moment there is no advanced tag filter search.

 

[MattShizzle]

What's the big deal? Why is this fetish such an issue?

The ones who like it go around demanding it in every game. Also, sometimes it's in but not tagged for it. Another is many of us don't consider it NTR if it's another girl - especially if yo're with both of them.

 

[Coomer1887]

You're looking for NETORI. So on f-95 you must select "cheating" tag, not "netorare" in Latest Updates. But not all results will contain precisely NETORI (that means getting a girl that is in a relation with another male). In this website at the moment there is no advanced tag filter search.

Nice didnt know that thank you

 

[alrubedo]

Vanilla is the true Netorare.

 

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[TH1987]

Personally for me, NTR is a turnoff

 

[zrah]

WHEN IT COMES TO NTR, REMEMBER;

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[uncbuck]

I find all of the anti-NTR vitriol to be pure arrogance. You play games where the MC is perfectly able, eager and encouraged to fuck everything that moves, yet you cannot even comprehend an existence where women are afforded the same freedom. I think it is pretty misogynistic

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[zrah]

I find all of the anti-NTR vitriol to be pure arrogance. You play games where the MC is perfectly able, eager and encouraged to fuck everything that moves, yet you cannot even comprehend an existence where women are afforded the same freedom. I think it is pretty misogynistic

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I'll bite. Your point is completely invalid, since your name cant be spelled without the letters "cuck" in them.

Also, the concept of NTR is what's offputting, it is of course forcing you to subconsciously think about a girlfriend or a wife fucking somebody else. And we are talking about fantasies here right?

 

[MattShizzle]

I find all of the anti-NTR vitriol to be pure arrogance. You play games where the MC is perfectly able, eager and encouraged to fuck everything that moves, yet you cannot even comprehend an existence where women are afforded the same freedom. I think it is pretty misogynistic

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Having being cheated on as a fantasy is pretty weird. You can play female protag games where she's just as slutty as the typical male protag game (unfortunately it's hard to find ones that don't involve blackmail, etc.)

 

[rocketsheep]

Personally I get neither the appeal of NTR nor the abhorrence, so I think I can look at this with a cool head.

I have no statistics, but it appears to me that NTR is probably more often represented in AVNs -- in fact very often -- than one would expect based on the number of people who specifically enjoy it as a kink. There are good reasons for it. To most people who do not have this kink it is far less offensive than other kinks they don't share, such as gore, scat, urination, or even just male homosexuality. This is in part because we are not dealing with the same kind of deeply ingrained taboo here, and because even if you dislike NTR you can get around that if you can temporarily identify with the cheater rather than with the cheated MC. Moreover, some forms of NTR are simply the porn version of what has been creating conflict and suspense in literature for thousands of years. It's hard to come up with a good AVN plot, and it gets even harder if you rule out cheating and jealousy as plot devices.

On the other hand, there are clearly some people with very strong negative feelings about NTR. And just like NTR appears overrepresented, the voices of NTR haters also appear overrepresented. I have never seen anyone post in the forum for an AVN: "There is no scat in the tags. Is there definitely really no scat here? And is there a guarantee that it will stay that way?" But for some reason, posts like this have regarding NTR have become very common. Also when there is NTR in the tags or in the description or even title, it's relatively common to see NTR haters in the discussion, complaining loudly about the fact. It's far rarer for people to complain about urination, scat or gore, even though that would make a little more sense. I think I have only ever seen such complaints in reviews, where they are more legitimate.

 

[zrah]

Having being cheated on as a fantasy is pretty weird. You can play female protag games where she's just as slutty as the typical male protag game (unfortunately it's hard to find ones that don't involve blackmail, etc.)

Very well said. It's not at all about "equality of freedom", that's just mental gymnastics.

 

[MattShizzle]

Personally I get neither the appeal of NTR nor the abhorrence, so I think I can look at this with a cool head.

I have no statistics, but it appears to me that NTR is probably more often represented in AVNs -- in fact very often -- than one would expect based on the number of people who specifically enjoy it as a kink. There are good reasons for it. To most people who do not have this kink it is far less offensive than other kinks they don't share, such as gore, scat, urination, or even just male homosexuality. This is in part because we are not dealing with the same kind of deeply ingrained taboo here, and because even if you dislike NTR you can get around that if you can temporarily identify with the cheater rather than with the cheated MC. Moreover, some forms of NTR are simply the porn version of what has been creating conflict and suspense in literature for thousands of years. It's hard to come up with a good AVN plot, and it gets even harder if you rule out cheating and jealousy as plot devices.

On the other hand, there are clearly some people with very strong negative feelings about NTR. And just like NTR appears overrepresented, the voices of NTR haters also appear overrepresented. I have never seen anyone post in the forum for an AVN: "There is no scat in the tags. Is there definitely really no scat here? And is there a guarantee that it will stay that way?" But for some reason, posts like this have regarding NTR have become very common. Also when there is NTR in the tags or in the description or even title, it's relatively common to see NTR haters in the discussion, complaining loudly about the fact. It's far rarer for people to complain about urination, scat or gore, even though that would make a little more sense. I think I have only ever seen such complaints in reviews, where they are more legitimate.

Probably because scat is such a rarely used thing, while NTR is there A LOT and has been added in the past.

 

[Dely5064]

Imo.
Everyone who had a real relationship and got betrayed. Have a scar and didn´t want that repeated in their happy time.

Brother you didn't have to hit the nail on the head like this but yes thats the reason at least for me

 

[phoenix133]

Brother you didn't have to hit the nail on the head like this but yes thats the reason at least for me

me too, takes you back to it which doesnt help the game or the immersion

 

[Dely5064]

me too, takes you back to it which doesnt help the game or the immersion

Don't wanna get personal but i need to unwind somehow bc i dont tell people i know this
We we're long distance and usually when we saw each other we we're like cats in heat , but the last time i visited i could tell smth was different , we had an argument and a week later after we broke up she already got flowers from someone else and posted them in a discord server we we're both on , so yeaaah never again long distance

 

[phoenix133]

Don't wanna get personal but i need to unwind somehow bc i dont tell people i know this
We we're long distance and usually when we saw each other we we're like cats in heat , but the last time i visited i could tell smth was different , we had an argument and a week later after we broke up she already got flowers from someone else and posted them in a discord server we we're both on , so yeaaah never again long distance

sorry to hear that man, hope your getting yourself back out their and on the mend