discussion Abandoned VN KN Ren'Py DAZ PGI-257 [Episode 1] [elfieeven]

[elfieeven]

I'm assuming one of them is the sneaky cutie by the tree that I suspect is MCs daughter/niece?. Everyone else in the banner has been introduced, so crossing my fingers that I'm right.

All I can say is one of the reasons I don't allow changing the ages, is because they're important for the stories timeline.

 

[elfieeven]

A little on the sappy side for me (a lot actually, lol), but I'm a non-con enjoyer so I have to put my biases aside when looking at romantically-oriented stuff. Also not a fan of the whole reaffirming consent thing constantly, it's unnatural IRL and it comes across that way in writing as well. I guess it's useful if you're new partners, one party is nervous/extremely inexperienced, or lack the ability to read social cues, but it stilts the writing a ton, on top of the copious amount of sap. The mega-eyeballs don't help with that either. I'm not really a loli-enjoyer, I'm more here for the incest, so I guess if you want to do "ethical" loli fiction that could be central to the premise as I do tend to see that sort of excessive confirmation more in romantically-oriented loli stuff.

The premise is decent, apart from the "one decent guy in a world full of shitty men harem" trope. Harem enjoyers/writers need to come up with better tropes for "ethical" harems if that's what you want to call it. It can work, but it needs to be really well done for me not to roll my eyes at this point. Although again, I could see myself liking this a lot more if it was more in my wheelhouse, I've certainly consumed a lot of pretty tropey non-con/dub-con content. The characters are pretty good, most of my critiques of them would probably line up with my gripes with the writing. Each one has a clearly defined personality without leaning too heavily on explication, although it can be a tad heavy-handed, especially toward the beginning. Also, some of the nipple renders are blurry/low-res, especially for the wife and during animations. Best of luck @elfieeven . Not entirely my wheelhouse, but I'll probably stick around for the redheads and the incest. Good first effort, and godspeed going forward.

You think it's sappy now? Oh boy.. hold on to your seat because it's just getting started. And based on the rest of your comment, I get why you wouldn't think reaffirming consent is important the first time that MC actually does something (as far as he knows) with his daughters.

As for 'one decent guy' trope? Women picking being alone with a bear instead of a man ring a bell? But the good news is that the MC is definitely not the one decent guy. He knows quite a few of them and will run into some during the story. I dislike the whole 'there is only one man allowed in the story' cliche so expect Tom and other men that the MC would trust his daughters lives with to show up at some point

 

[yoyomistro]

You think it's sappy now? Oh boy.. hold on to your seat because it's just getting started. And based on the rest of your comment, I get why you wouldn't think reaffirming consent is important the first time that MC actually does something (as far as he knows) with his daughters.

As for 'one decent guy' trope? Women picking being alone with a bear instead of a man ring a bell? But the good news is that the MC is definitely not the one decent guy. He knows quite a few of them and will run into some during the story. I dislike the whole 'there is only one man allowed in the story' cliche so expect Tom and other men that the MC would trust his daughters lives with to show up at some point

Yea I've had plently of discussion about that, with me being overwhelmingly understanding of the "rather be with a bear" side; trust me I am not a "not all men" type and have had plenty of discourse about how crappy guys can be--look no further than that case in France... But harem games tend to go way off the deep-end with the whole thing for something that's not satirical in nature. But at least you do have Tom and other realistically-portrayed male characters in the story. We'll see if I can withstand whatever sap-levels you have in store. I had a permanent grimace on my face and had to skim through large swaths of the first release... if it gets any more than that, IDK if I can handle it, lol...

 

[Tosser]

( he edited his post to say AVN after you wrote your comment) but yea, I should have seen that also, and replied with a reference to AVN not VPN as I did.

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[User_43891]

All I can say is one of the reasons I don't allow changing the ages, is because they're important for the stories timeline.

Looking forward to the reveals!

Quick question: have you stated who the optional trans/gay character(s) are? Have we been introduced to them yet?

 

[elfieeven]

Looking forward to the reveals!

Quick question: have you stated who the optional trans/gay character(s) are? Have we been introduced to them yet?

No. When that character is introduced you will be asked if you want them trans or not.

 

[justaguyhere]

PGI-257 - Episode 2 Teaser
In the next episode of PGI-257, the family comes under attack from multiple fronts, forcing Dad to take drastic action that will have devastating consequences for everyone involved. New discoveries reveal shocking truths about the nature of the family's PGI variant, raising fresh questions about what truly happened seven months ago on that fateful night when everything changed.

I will be posting weekly updates on this thread, but for those interested in following the development of Episode 2 a little more closely, I highly recommend you check out my PGI-257 Dev. Updates/Discussion thread, where I will continue my practice of posting teaser shots (hidden by spoiler tags) or discussing my development efforts.

Thanks for the info. Keep it up. We all can't wait for the next published installment

 

[JokerOfTorment]

You think it's sappy now? Oh boy.. hold on to your seat because it's just getting started. And based on the rest of your comment, I get why you wouldn't think reaffirming consent is important the first time that MC actually does something (as far as he knows) with his daughters.

As for 'one decent guy' trope? Women picking being alone with a bear instead of a man ring a bell? But the good news is that the MC is definitely not the one decent guy. He knows quite a few of them and will run into some during the story. I dislike the whole 'there is only one man allowed in the story' cliche so expect Tom and other men that the MC would trust his daughters lives with to show up at some point

Hmm, I remember you telling me in the update/discussion thread there wouldn't be any other males due to lore reasons, and you didn't want it reasons, so I guess you changed your mind on that ? My guess is yes since there have been a few shown so far in the game already.

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[deepfaceboy]

Absolutely love it as is, but really hoping for some younger characters too!

 

[MiguelYamazaki]

looks good, Thanks!

 

[elfieeven]

Hmm, I remember you telling me in the update/discussion thread there wouldn't be any other males due to lore reasons, and you didn't want it reasons, so I guess you changed your mind on that ? My guess is yes since there have been a few shown so far in the game already.

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There won't be any around long term, but they will come and go. I decided I didn't want to fall into the 'all other men are bad/dangerous' trope and the MC is going to need help on occasion...

 

[Tiur]

That was quite an enjoyable start to a game. I appreciate the differences in approaches with the girls. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where it goes.

 

[User_43891]

There won't be any around long term, but they will come and go. I decided I didn't want to fall into the 'all other men are bad/dangerous' trope and the MC is going to need help on occasion...

Oh man, you MAY want to explicitly clarify that the other good men won't be having sex with MCs girls to avoid the NTR-haters' inevitable shit storm.

I mean, it's pretty clear to me from the plot that MC is the only one that these girls CAN be with due to the PGI thing, but some people skip exposition trying to get to the sexy times.

And the best friend sounds black, so you potentially have a few very vocal snowflakes clutching their pearls that MC is going to get cucked by BBC.

Or maybe I'm still traumatized by my experience over at The Bad Place

 

[Coin_Gaming]

Can't wait to see this game update and grow.. It looks good so far

 

[igotnostringsonme]

The one girl looks like Jenny from Higher Society, not a bad thing at all as far as I'm concerned. Looking forward to checking out your work.

 

[elfieeven]

Oh man, you MAY want to explicitly clarify that the other good men won't be having sex with MCs girls to avoid the NTR-haters' inevitable shit storm.

I mean, it's pretty clear to me from the plot that MC is the only one that these girls CAN be with due to the PGI thing, but some people skip exposition trying to get to the sexy times.

And the best friend sounds black, so you potentially have a few very vocal snowflakes clutching their pearls that MC is going to get cucked by BBC.

Or maybe I'm still traumatized by my experience over at The Bad Place

No... no... well, I mean you likely are traumatized, but you bring up a very valid concern.

"This game will not have NTR, where NTR is defined as an LI interacting in a romantic/sexual manner with another person who identifies as male."

 

[elfieeven]

The one girl looks like Jenny from Higher Society, not a bad thing at all as far as I'm concerned. Looking forward to checking out your work.

Great eye. She is based on the same model because I love Jenny.

 

[wedomore]

Wow ! I really hope this one gets regular updates.
I like this so far and see it could be one of the few great ones.
Renders are good. And the story holds you in.
Keep up the great work, Dev.

 

[User_43891]

No... no... well, I mean you likely are traumatized, but you bring up a very valid concern.

"This game will not have NTR, where NTR is defined as an LI interacting in a romantic/sexual manner with another person who identifies as male."

In other words, your harem is going to fuck around with other people in the harem. As it should be.

I love it when my girls get along.

 

[helent]

"If you've played the game, then you know this means certain activities MUST occur, so just pick female if you're not comfortable with that." what activities might I not be comfortable with besides the sex stuff (which I am)?