discussion NTR is not a dream, its a nightmare. Just say NO to NTR!

[cantus]

When someone is degenerate and a loser, it gives rise to them liking ntr, this world is becoming a perfect chef for that recipe each passing day.

I'm gonna disagree on this one. It's not my thing either but I run a kink venue in real life.
A lot of high-powered people who are used to taking the dominant role at work and such enjoy being submissive in the bedroom because they find letting someone else take control relaxing.

Cucking seems to work more or less the same way. Anxiety and arousal are two side of the same coin, and for those who can handle it, humiliation pushes it more.

Again, not my thing but those who like it seem to get a lot out of it.

 

[darkstealler]

There's reason why NTR mosty well done in the art section

 

[AlfaBit]

I'm gonna disagree on this one. It's not my thing either but I run a kink venue in real life.
A lot of high-powered people who are used to taking the dominant role at work and such enjoy being submissive in the bedroom because they find letting someone else take control relaxing.

Cucking seems to work more or less the same way. Anxiety and arousal are two side of the same coin, and for those who can handle it, humiliation pushes it more.

Again, not my thing but those who like it seem to get a lot out of it.

I am talking about loser mentality, high power people doesn't mean winner mentality, for all you know they might be born with a golden spoon or got to those high ranking positions by others references (the people who have achieved the power they possess by themselves know how to appreciate it, those who had it easy don't know what they have, watch Netflix) but really even if they achieved all that by themselves what winners are they if they like to be pushed down in secret?

 

[User_24373]

I enjoy cheating porn, and I kinda like watching people cheat. I dunno. I approve of it!

 

[Novac1]

I depends really on the context, for instance if I was sharing my woman with a friend, someone I care about and was just doing it to help them out, then yeah. Also if I was say sharing family members around the family like sharing sis with dad and dad sharing mom with me in return, (I know I'm a deviant, but there's the makings of a great game there right?? If you know any like that lemme know ) you know in a mutual sexy silliness, well then yeah NTR can be sexy and fun. But if it's horrible NTR as in being CUCKED, then no thank you that's just awful and makes you feel awful, I remember playing Big brother, OMG I hated that dude so fucking much and sincerely wanted to break his fat nose, Grrrrrrrr...... Anyway, to sum up, willing mutual sharing YES!, Cucking, NO.!

 

[Vulky]

I am talking about loser mentality, high power people doesn't mean winner mentality, for all you know they might be born with a golden spoon or got to those high ranking positions by others references (the people who have achieved the power they possess by themselves know how to appreciate it, those who had it easy don't know what they have, watch Netflix) but really even if they achieved all that by themselves what winners are they if they like to be pushed down in secret?

Who are the ones with "winners mentality"? The ones that believe they are the MC of a porn VN with a mediocre plot? So they personally get hurt if a random attractive pixel girl gives her pixel-pussy to someone who is not the MC? I mean, it does not sound really "winner mentality" to me.
Talking about winner mentality in a porn forum, let's be serious mate.

 

[AlfaBit]

Who are the ones with "winners mentality"? The ones that believe they are the MC of a porn VN with a mediocre plot? So they personally get hurt if a random attractive pixel girl gives her pixel-pussy to someone who is not the MC? I mean, it does not sound really "winner mentality" to me.
Talking about winner mentality in a porn forum, let's be serious mate.

All you said is gibberish how can I take it seriously? Though some of it was fun to read.

 

[anyplay]

Hate only when the guy getting robbed is a genuinely good guy. otherwise couldn't care less

 

[Shiva]

Who are the ones with "winners mentality"? The ones that believe they are the MC of a porn VN with a mediocre plot? So they personally get hurt if a random attractive pixel girl gives her pixel-pussy to someone who is not the MC? I mean, it does not sound really "winner mentality" to me.
Talking about winner mentality in a porn forum, let's be serious mate.

You talk about those who reject NTR and say that when they get upset about results in a game, they do not have a 'Winner' mentality. I notice that you do NOT comment on those who, in a game, WANT to have some character that they do NOT control take one or more love interests from the character that is controlled by the player. Is it a 'Winner' mentality for the player to WANT a love interest to be taken by a character they do NOT control?

For myself I do NOT think that I am the MC of any game. I think that I see the game through the eyes of the MC (rare to have scenes without the MC in them). I think that I control the MC's decisions to an extent (since there are often choices for the player). Do I want to have some random (or not random) character to appear and take a love interest from the MC? NO. In most of these games the way to 'Win' is to have sex with the LI's, NOT to have them taken by an NPC. So yes, becoming irritated or upset when having a love interest taken is not unusual.

Your argument doesn't really work. Isn't getting the results wanted 'Winning'? Isn't getting bad results NOT 'winning'?

Honestly, Devs need to be clear about what types of content will be in a game. The 'SURPRISE' NTR is NOT a good thing. If a game's tags show that such events may/will happen, and events in the game build to those results, then those who want to avoid such content will be able to do so (and those that want it will know it's there for them).

Just a thought.

 

[Uthuriel]

I see that the retarded cucks in this thread are still coping... :kek:

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[Mr. Tearson]

Remember, folks... Rules still stand here. No insults to any one on this sites. No arguments. Just show your dislikes/likes to NTR. Agree with other users or move on.

 

[RandomDoggo]

Honestly, i tolerate it if my character is the one doing the stealing

 

[Silwith]

I do play a plethora of different stuff, I like variety *shrug* that incluced even full NTR games (so those with focus on it), just as it does include lovey-dovey-mega-harem games, female protagonist-slut-simulators... whatever I am confident in my sexuality, so If something is well written and looks good I am almost certainly interested (well, aside from lesbian actually, so I guess I dont play EVERYthing...)
Would I choose NTR if I had to choose a single genre and couldn't play anything else? Certainly not... but I can still just as well play games with the most megachad-alpha-male xD

Now I thought more about the Devside... and well, if someone does a NTR focused game and makes that clear, that is fine, if one makes a "normal" game and includes avoidable NTR, thats also fine (here: since NTR is very polarising I think those games should have clear warnings for decisions that can lead to ntr), but if someone does a normal game and somehow then suddenly includes unavoidable NTR? Yeah, no wonder shit hits the fan, I can understand that people would freak out about that xD And dunno, I think they have this instinctive fear that once they allow avoidable or something it may become unavoidable? Dunno xD

 

[Vulky]

You talk about those who reject NTR and say that when they get upset about results in a game, they do not have a 'Winner' mentality. I notice that you do NOT comment on those who, in a game, WANT to have some character that they do NOT control take one or more love interests from the character that is controlled by the player. Is it a 'Winner' mentality for the player to WANT a love interest to be taken by a character they do NOT control?

For myself I do NOT think that I am the MC of any game. I think that I see the game through the eyes of the MC (rare to have scenes without the MC in them). I think that I control the MC's decisions to an extent (since there are often choices for the player). Do I want to have some random (or not random) character to appear and take a love interest from the MC? NO. In most of these games the way to 'Win' is to have sex with the LI's, NOT to have them taken by an NPC. So yes, becoming irritated or upset when having a love interest taken is not unusual.

Maybe it's not clear for you: talking about "winner mentality" when dealing about porn games is ridicule. We're just WANKERS. PRO-NTR or against-NTR I simply don't give a fuck. We're just wankers fapping to mediocre porn stories, that's it. We are not curing cancer here.
I don't look specifically for NTR and I usually avoid it because the games centred around NTR are usually worse than average, with exceptions. But if you consider (as many do) netorare when any female character have sex with someone who is not the MC, that seems alarming, a red flag.
If a story and graphics are good, I can play also a VN with real netorare, I have no problems, it's just a porn story nobody wins or loses. MC can die of AIDS or support Real Madrid for what I care. I simply enjoy well drawn pictures with good writing. It seems many of you have problems understanding that fiction and games are nowhere connected to reality.
I play shooter games and I haven't touched a gun in all my life, and I'm against guns. I enjoy The GodFather film but I am strongly against mafia.

Honestly, Devs need to be clear about what types of content will be in a game. The 'SURPRISE' NTR is NOT a good thing. If a game's tags show that such events may/will happen, and events in the game build to those results, then those who want to avoid such content will be able to do so (and those that want it will know it's there for them).

If you are a paying customer of course you can pretend something from the developers. As I download them for free, I really cannot complain and I am more forgiving: when I find content I don't like (it could be bad netorare, scat or other things) I simply skip the scene or quit playing. I'm not hurt in my feelings, I did not pay for it, so it's fine. If you pay, maybe you can be angry (but I believe in artistic freedom of the developers). I also suggest to buy only completed games and read the reviews, so you'll know if the plot is going places you don't like.

If a game has got netorare, I prefer it to be avoidable as a challenge, it feels more engaging. But if it happens (usually you have to make a lot of bad choices), I simply go back and try other choices, I won't cry. I am very relaxed when I play VNs, the outcome does not affect me. I understand it's a matter of personal approach and some people are more fragile or experienced traumas in their life. I am not judging anyone, of course.

Your argument doesn't really work. Isn't getting the results wanted 'Winning'? Isn't getting bad results NOT 'winning'?

There are people who look specifically for those "bad results", so in that POV is still "winning". So here you have your winner mentality.

 

[karlosos]

As a lifelong poly person the concept of NTR never made much sense to me. That, and I don't speak Japanese
Maybe we could get better clarity by using English terms...

cuck: MC is cucked by NPC, whether or not MC is present
bull: MC cucks NPC
rival: MC has to win the affections of an LI from a rival NPC
voyeur: MC watches other people have sex
3p: Player is shown sex scenes between NPCs without MC present, such as when a love interest remembers past adventures
cheater: MC cheats on a partner without their knowledge or consent
cheated: Partner cheats on MC
sharing: MC consensually shares a partner with a non-partner
shared: Partner consensually shares MC with other partner
triangle: Two or more of MCs' partners have sex with each other (there's probably a better term that could be used here)

Did I miss any?
I'm not sure if cuck and bull should be used as broadly as I have them here, since a lot of people think of cucking as specifically having the non-participant in the room watching, so maybe there's a better English term for when a love interest has a scene with a someone who is not the MC and not another love interest.

cheater type 2: female partner tricked, blackmailed, coerced or forced into sex with 1 or more males, without her partners knowledge or consent and he is not present.

 

[resolver_]

Yeah, they should be separated.

 

[jabbaja]

too bad there is so much hate for NTR

 

[hellgyf]

Why not
more fun

 

[Scathe]

Transparently marked as being in the game/VN, yes, so I can avoid playing it

 

[Fall12Dr]

It depends on how the reason is stated. in my case, if it happens for no reason, then i don't like it at all.