discussion VN AI Ren'Py The Seven Seas [v1.3-Preview] [Zeruel]

[TMc4ll1st3r]

I try to do the mini game because it has an effect on your reputation with the crew. Who represent the ship owners

Yeah me too, I asume at some point we'll get a little something if they're happy with us so I better aim to impress

 

[TMc4ll1st3r]

Just added this little hint. Will be part of the next release.

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That's perfect, just what I wanted

 

[Knight5946]

That's perfect, just what I wanted

Honestly I was hoping for virtual control sticks kinda like something you see in the mobile version of Modern Warship for the fighter control

 

[MainCharacter]

I wish the Change-Log were updated.... Anyone know what's new in 1.2.1?

 

[ZDaGoat]

I wish the Change-Log were updated.... Anyone know what's new in 1.2.1?

Just updated the Change Log ... As outlined here, 1.2.1 is just a minor Bugfix. Fixed an issue with the Skip Option after crashing the ship and increased the size of the touch control display during the ship minigame.

 

[ZDaGoat]

Hey there, i have to apologize to those who used the ranoz links and got some BS downloaded.

I now finally could reproduce by deactivating Ublock Origin.... In that case Ranoz may open up some extremely questionable Download links at the first two cllcks before starting the actual download at click #3. With a blocker, you just click 2 or 3 times and get the correct download. You can also do it without a blocker if you close the questionable popups and keep clicking.
So the difference is not the presence of questionable extensions as some speculated, but the lack of proper Ad Blockers.

The actual files should be easily identifable... the actual download should be downloaded should be named TheSevenSeas-1.2.1-pc.zip (or the corresponding variants/future version), with a content that looks exactly like this, no setup.exe, no password or other stuff.

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I will add a warning and reconsider my choice of hosting providers for the next update. I am surprised that ranoz, which is used quite often around here and not just by me, does this. Seems their business model is kind of shady after all. I have been told that this is quite normal for sites offering free downloads these times...

So I would urgently recommend to use a decent adblocker when working with free file hosters... just filters out the worst crap.

 

[ZDaGoat]

Future versions of the game will allow you to toggle the debug mode during the ship minigame by pressing m. I also made a new ship model that is both more matching to the collision check points and looks more like the other depictions of the ship.

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For comparison, this is what the collision check points looked on the older/current ship model:

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[TMc4ll1st3r]

Future versions of the game will allow you to toggle the debug mode during the ship minigame by pressing m. I also made a new ship model that is both more matching to the collision check points and looks more like the other depictions of the ship.

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I thought the narrowest part would have a more "accurate" hitbox and so, if this are the same collision zones already in the game, I might have worried a little too much at the wrong areas, the docking area also seems a lot easier to navigate this way, I don't think I'll be using this mode right off the bat but it's good to know we'll have a little extra help in case it becomes too hard.

Actually now that I think about it, are you going to make more accurate hitboxes at any point in the future or is the final game going to have this square-ish collisions, it won't change the way I look at the game since I like the way it works already but I would like to know anyway.

 

[TMc4ll1st3r]

I thought the narrowest part would have a more "accurate" hitbox and so, if this are the same collision zones already in the game, I might have worried a little too much at the wrong areas, the docking area also seems a lot easier to navigate this way, I don't think I'll be using this mode right off the bat but it's good to know we'll have a little extra help in case it becomes too hard.

Actually now that I think about it, are you going to make more accurate hitboxes at any point in the future or is the final game going to have this square-ish collisions, it won't change the way I look at the game since I like how it works already but I would like to know anyway.

 

[ZDaGoat]

I thought the narrowest part would have a more "accurate" hitbox and so, if this are the same collision zones already in the game, I might have worried a little too much at the wrong areas, the docking area also seems a lot easier to navigate this way, I don't think I'll be using this mode right off the bat but it's good to know we'll have a little extra help in case it becomes too hard.

Actually now that I think about it, are you going to make more accurate hitboxes at any point in the future or is the final game going to have this square-ish collisions, it won't change the way I look at the game since I like the way it works already but I would like to know anyway.

I actually have been considering to switch from rectangular to free quadrilateral forms or polygons in general that i would then set up with a custom editor to reduce errors. That would allow to create better collision checks without hundreds of rectangles. I think at some point, i might really do that. But i don't know if it is a huge difference for the player. The discrepancy between the ship's hitbox and its visual representation was probably the bigger problem, and that will definitely be fixed with the next version. If you compare the current image with the new one above, you will see what i mean.

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I may be a bit lazy and with a dozen of rectangles more, it could all be a bit more accurate, or i could be more forgiving. But the rectangles as they are are a good approximation and just slightly unfair.
Most of the small areas that you might collide with unfairly are not really places i would go with the ship anyway.

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[lewdito]

Thanks for trying i guess. The minigame is part of the deal. There will be other minigames, some a bit annoying, some more fun, some challenging. I can add more variety to the game over messages, maybe in the future i will even add more precision to the collision detection, but there is not much more i can do here if it puts you off that much and even makes you quit the game even though you can just skip the whole ship minigame part now.

Not everyone is born to be a helmsman.

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Do you get extra scenes if you don’t skip it?

 

[ZDaGoat]

Do you get extra scenes if you don’t skip it?

Well first of all, there is a video if you skip it, and you will never see it if you don't ever skip.

Based on the reputation system, you might at a later point see consequences if you skip every time. You'll just be not very popular among the ship owners. This means you might miss a special End game option for which a better standing with the ship owners is required. Before you are disappointed: This special mission may not just include rewarding story parts and hot stuff, but also especially challenging ship game levels.

Also, for the next version i plan an Onboard TV function. Some of the planned channels will only accessible with a good standing among specific factions. For the ship owners, this is the "Sailor girl dreams" channel. So you might also miss on that one, which will feature between 5 and 10 minutes of sailor girls going wild and steamy.

But you can make up for it, not just are there ways to get reputation with the ship owners among other events and missions, but i plan to eventually allow the player to "practice" the ship game on his onboard computer, which also may feature a number of silly and non-story-compatible level ideas. Mastering levels there might give you back enough reputation to compensate for quite some skipping out of frustration early on. But of course this might become a bit grindy then.

 

[lewdito]

Well first of all, there is a video if you skip it, and you will never see it if you don't ever skip.

Based on the reputation system, you might at a later point see consequences if you skip every time. You'll just be not very popular among the ship owners. This means you might miss a special End game option for which a better standing with the ship owners is required. Before you are disappointed: This special mission may not just include rewarding story parts and hot stuff, but also especially challenging ship game levels.

Also, for the next version i plan an Onboard TV function. Some of the planned channels will only accessible with a good standing among specific factions. For the ship owners, this is the "Sailor girl dreams" channel. So you might also miss on that one, which will feature between 5 and 10 minutes of sailor girls going wild and steamy.

But you can make up for it, not just are there ways to get reputation with the ship owners among other events and missions, but i plan to eventually allow the player to "practice" the ship game on his onboard computer, which also may feature a number of silly and non-story-compatible level ideas. Mastering levels there might give you back enough reputation to compensate for quite some skipping out of frustration early on. But of course this might become a bit grindy then.

Thanks for the reply. Good luck with the project.

 

[MrMagoo69]

You mentioned the maelstrom.
Are there more in-games at this time apart from two steering the ship?
If so how do I find them?

Also a comment: When mc, Helene and the two girls take to Rose regarding the tailor, Helene says ..."and also outfits for Hannes".
I assume this is a typo, if not who is Hannes?

 

[TMc4ll1st3r]

You mentioned the maelstrom.
Are there more in-games at this time apart from two steering the ship?
If so how do I find them?

Also a comment: When mc, Helene and the two girls take to Rose regarding the tailor, Helene says ..."and also outfits for Hannes".
I assume this is a typo, if not who is Hannes?

In the main menu once you press "Start", 2 options pop up, if you select "Ship Game" it'll display the 2 levels from the story and another 3 levels including The Maelstrom, I don't know anything about "Hannes" tho so I can't help you with that

 

[ZDaGoat]

You mentioned the maelstrom.
Are there more in-games at this time apart from two steering the ship?
If so how do I find them?

Also a comment: When mc, Helene and the two girls take to Rose regarding the tailor, Helene says ..."and also outfits for Hannes".
I assume this is a typo, if not who is Hannes?

Hannes Bloch is one of the VIPs i am about to introduce, a shady german arms and especially drones dealer. No idea why his name made it to that dialog. Thanks for the hint, will be fixed in the next version. At this place, the main characters name will be used.

And yes, currently you can select all 5 available levels from main menu - New game - Select Ship game and there will be the maelstrom and also Florida and a mexican harbor for ship game fans.

These are planned to be part of the main storyline with later versions, but at some point, there will also be ship levels which are not becoming part of the story at all and will only be available during your freetime sessions, available in your personal quarters computer.

 

[Grossbest]

Hello Zeruel: Thanks for the game. I am really enjoying it (and I really don't mind the ship minigames so much). I know Oppai Loli is a controversial subject for some but do you have any plans on including a highly overdeveloped small character? Thanks so much!

 

[ZDaGoat]

Hello Zeruel: Thanks for the game. I am really enjoying it (and I really don't mind the ship minigames so much). I know Oppai Loli is a controversial subject for some but do you have any plans on including a highly overdeveloped small character? Thanks so much!

You mean deliberately? Many complain that the titties should be way smaller and i kind of acted on improving some images in that regard and trying to bring in some more consistency between ages and physique. So oppai loli will not be the norm.

But that said: Certainly yes, with a proper lore explanation. Maybe a VIPs "daughter" that has been enhanced by Dr. Larsson, the ships doctor, against all morality some months ago to go along with her "daddies" sick desires. And now the main character will kind of accompany them for their next visit on the ship, including some follow-up examinations. And eventually her daddy wants her to star in some porn productions on the ship, which is when the main character might end up coming way closer to her, something like that. I will take it as a suggestion for one of the next releases. Would be a great opportunity to integrate some titty sex and other lewd scenes, like fucking her against a glass and a lot of wiggle wiggle in general.

 

[Grossbest]

You mean deliberately? Many complain that the titties should be way smaller and i kind of acted on improving some images in that regard and trying to bring in some more consistency between ages and physique. So oppai loli will not be the norm.

But that said: Certainly yes, with a proper lore explanation. Maybe a VIPs "daughter" that has been enhanced by Dr. Larsson, the ships doctor, against all morality some months ago to go along with her "daddies" sick desires. And now the main character will kind of accompany them for their next visit on the ship, including some follow-up examinations. And eventually her daddy wants her to star in some porn productions on the ship, which is when the main character might end up coming way closer to her, something like that. I will take it as a suggestion for one of the next releases. Would be a great opportunity to integrate some titty sex and other lewd scenes, like fucking her against a glass and a lot of wiggle wiggle in general.

That sounds great! Honestly, you have been so on track with this and previous that I look forward to anything you produce. . .

 

[ZDaGoat]

Thanks to EscapesMe, the malware-spreading ranoz.gg download links are no more, with two more "safe" file hosters in their place instead. Thanks for setting up those mirrors!
I feel kind of sorry for using ranoz, i was not aware of their malicious behavior when i set things up, as my own popup blocker did not allow any of it.