discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[superpuma]

I think that this genetics issue has absolutely nothing to do with the soap opera, with the story, with the fiction. It's just a story of widespread incest, with beautiful women and girls, nothing more than that. No one is worried about the 15th generation of MCs... in fact, I believe that the game is over if the girls 'grow up' too quickly.
Just like the issue that arose with Nicole feeling like Alice's mother... well, she did nothing more than give an egg, the other one carried it in her belly, gave birth and raised it, she's the mother, Cassey. Nicole has even had sex with Alice. I just want and expect a lot of sex, that the girls continue to be beautiful, hot and lascivious. And I wouldn't mind if there were more girls... let's leave science and go back to Ketzal's delicious fiction.

 

[Hermit76]

Regarding genes you can be lucky or not. If a narrator tells a story, where characters are lucky, that's the way it is.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Interesting hill to fight on I guess. But your whole argument is based on a faulty premise either by design (so this is manipulation) or ignorance. There is no human gene line that is perfect. (Ok in theory there could be at the same odds as putting monkeys with typewriters and waiting 'til they come up with Shakespeare.) Saying "incest is only bad for THAT family" is just... delusional at best. Every human is flawed in some way and keeping inbreeding a Bad Idea(tm) to society is in humanity's best interest. Putting the taboo on incest is a way to try to pre-emptively avoid it.

Not trying to rain on your parade, but if you are trying to scientifically justify your kinks you gotta be more accurate.

Eh I have 6 kids with my sister (and yes we're still together). They are all fine. Granted it could have just been luck but really on average first gen sibling incest is only about a 2x increase over the general pop's complication risk of about 2% (which probably comes up from things like background radiation and global natural disasters like the Toba eruption forcing widespread inbreeding, as with humans reduced to about 10-20k breeding pairs worldwide about ~3500-4000 generations ago it was breed with varying degrees of relatives for a few generations until the skies cleared and 50-year volcanic winter was over or go extinct, probably the closest to actual extinction we've ever come so far). As far as society's taboos, fuck them if they don't like it. Much of it is based on stupid religion anyway. It's really not necessary to hate people based solely on who they love or like to fuck and is a waste of energy doing that. I'm reminded of the non-religious argument often used not so long ago that homosexuality was going to cause human extinction because that was a couple that weren't going to procreate (like it was contagious or something). Despite the popularity of incest porn and the fantasies that go with that probably 95% find the idea of actually fucking their mom/dad or brother/sister gross/repulsive anyway (probably an inherent evolved trait) and probably under 2% actually make that fantasy a reality with even fewer still resulting in kids, no need to taboo it. Long term even 2% inbreeding rate won't do much of shit anyway in a population of 8 billion+, that's like a single person taking a piss in a olympic-sized public swimming pool and then everyone in it complaining about possibly getting piss in their mouths. Speaking of long-term, the way I see it all life in the universe will eventually die anyway when the universe does (every point in spacetime same temperature = can't get usable energy to do anything like chemical reactions that life needs) and there's nothing and no possible tech even theoretically allowed by physics to prevent that, slow it down in small scattered pockets, maybe, but not stop it. Granted that's 10^100 years from now and more likely humans will die out anyway from other natural processes far sooner (like all stars burning out or exploding in about 100 trillion years, or our own sun converting all water in the solar system into scattered hydrogen in space in about 2 billion, if we never go interstellar due to the cost and budget overruns canceling such plans). I don't think any species is forever even if the universe was. Dinosaurs lasted about 165M years, I seriously don't see humans beating that before their run ends, never mind more pressing concerns like slow-cooking ourselves in the next century or millenium with our economic activity. In that big picture people are worrying about human extinction from inbreeding and worrying about relatives making babies? What a joke. In more down-to-earth practical terms in a measly 100 years from now me and everyone else and most likely our kids too now alive will be dead by then just from aging anyway. What happens after I couldn't give a shit less about as I won't be around to see it and it has 0% chance to affect anyone when they go back to the state they were in before their birth and no longer exist. Ok, yeah, I think I had enough coffee this morning.

 

[superpuma]

Does this mean MC should continue making love to Leana, Hailey, Tiff...? If so, could we include Luna? LOL

 

[El Buho]

Does this mean MC should continue making love to Leana, Hailey, Tiff...? If so, could we include Luna? LOL

Yea, He is a real man! He just fucks everybody regardless. And if they complain about him having too many woman/girl/hebe/loli to fuck, he just makes them watch.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Eh I have 6 kids with my sister (and yes we're still together). They are all fine. Granted it could have just been luck but really on average first gen sibling incest is only about a 2x increase over the general pop's complication risk of about 2%

Like I said. If you start having children with your own children is when the problems would start having a significant risk of showing. But this is a work of fiction, so of course this isn't taken into account for the story. And no one is saying it should!! I was just trying to drop some reality on that guy who was all rose-tinted glasses on the subject, ignoring the blatant error in his theory.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Like I said. If you start having children with your own children is when the problems would start having a significant risk of showing. But this is a work of fiction, so of course this isn't taken into account for the story. And no one is saying it should!! I was just trying to drop some reality on that guy who was all rose-tinted glasses on the subject, ignoring the blatant error in his theory.

Yeah I would like to knock up my 2 oldest, sadly I probably fucked that up some time ago when we watched an old Nova episode on human reproduction together when it showed a real woman giving birth at the end, stretched pussy and the mess after and all. "WTF? OMFG, that's so fucking gross! I don't care if I have to get an abortion in someone's garage, I'm never letting myself get pregnant to that point. Ever!" "*wretching* Umm... yeah, me neither". I guess better luck with the youngest 2 in a few years if they agree and are as pretty as their older sisters are by then (and if sis gets on board with that, overall very unlikely). Really wish real life were an AVN sometimes = goes back and chooses not to allow them to watch that Nova episode.

 

[chester1530]

I finally found out the reason why this game is called like this:
Mc, after doing the "little job" for his daughter Alice at her "back door", asked her:
did you like Alice?, and she responded:
yes, but I have "SUCH A SHARP PAIN"



the author is my god

 

[GivLoli]

Yes it's just sad that this is the world we live in. When do these people felt ok to publicly say they feel cucked by a bunch of pixels on a screen ? 20 years ago they would have realised their stupidity and stop themselves from posting. To me it's the far right version of "I identify as a disabled pansexual pidgeon". Same stupidity, same weakness, same narcissicism ("Every product should be made just for me, I'm very important and original, like the millions of guys just like me"), but different corners of the political spectrum.

Anyways, between scat, hairy pussies and bestiality, I'd choose bestiality Not a thing I want to see all the time, but nothing against it occasionally. Golden shower stuff is also fine, but same as bestiality, it must be occasional for it to have an effect. I'm just a normal guy who wants to see ugly old guys have their way with pretty girls between 7 and 70yo (not into toddlers, not into necrophilia ).

Btw it makes me sad that the NTR-sensitive people are so needy they want MC to be a handsome guy. I could easily say "that's gay !" if I was as dumb as they are. But I won't, you shouldn't pay attention to what retarded people think of you. There's many guys on the other forum who spend their time saying this dev or this forumer is a cuck because of x and y thing they said or put in their game. And why the fuck should we care exactly ? We are discussing and/or creating (devs) porn where anything should be possible because no real persons are in it, it should be a space where we unleash our imagination without barriers, but NO, the Church of anti-cuck is there to censor us and tell us everyday that their stupidity is right and there's no difference between games and IRL. And unfortunately they're either a vocal minority or the real majority, so devs have to listen to them if they want to earn a lving from their games.

I have to turn to female protag games if I want to see the kind of scenes I enjoy, and I don't see why it has to be a law that gangbangs or even a simple MMF threesome cannot happen in male protag games. There's some female protag with great art, like "It's not a world for Alyssa", but still it's not as good as SSP's overall quality.

you heard it people not being a cuck as far right kek

 

[shinybutton]

No more Android ports until V12/next season. Buy/borrow/steal a used PC and join the other 90%, even a 10yo used one is good enough for Renpy AVNs, my porno pc is like 12yo and wasn't high end even back then and is still plenty good enough for that.

It works fine with joiplay for android

 

[Freyr]

you heard it people not being a cuck as far right kek

Make Porn Games Great Again!

 

[knopfler1]

I absolute appreciate MC's narcissistic personality. I much prefer it over other games where the MC is weak, pathetic and the girls have to flirt him up because he is too much of a pussy to go after girls himself. SPP is assertive and goes after what he wants. I love that. I cannot fathom that people would really rather have a meek loser MC who rejects girls because he feels bad about cheating on his wife, who rejects girls because they are not his age, who does not pursue girls he likes because hes not confident enough so he hopes they come to them. Its pathetic and makes for a shitty game.

So yeah i really like the MC, hes as a MC should be. If anything, during his inner monolog he often expresses regret or guilt, so I would prefer him to be even more of an ass who feels no shame at all about what hes doing. Games are a fantasy, they are supposed to make the player feel good and like a king, the girls and other characters are not real, their feelings dont matter, their well being doesnt matter.

The Eve/Tiffany scene was the best part of the game so far for me, guilt tripped her right into submission, humiliated her right in front of her daughter then sent her to wait outside and kept fucking Tiff lmao, what a fucking gigachad.

How can I gst this Eve/Tiffany scene? What´s the path?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

How can I gst this Eve/Tiffany scene? What´s the path?

harem/loli

 

[Fairfield]

Does anyone know if the birthday party, the projected 2nd half of v.11, has been released yet?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Does anyone know if the birthday party, the projected 2nd half of v.11, has been released yet?

Nope, prob not till mid to late Nov for top tiers (public around Dec), though no exact date has been given.

 

[Fairfield]

Nope, prob not till mid to late Nov for top tiers (public around Dec), though no exact date has been given.

Yeah I thought as much. Thanks. If only he were more straightforward. I used to subscribe every month but got tired of being promised one thing and always given something else much later down the line. (still a great game tho)

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Yeah I thought as much. Thanks. If only he were more straightforward. I used to subscribe every month but got tired of being promised one thing and always given something else much later down the line. (still a great game tho)

That's why he quit giving exact dates. Things almost never go exactly as planned.

 

[Freyr]

That's why he quit giving exact dates. Things almost never go exactly as planned.

Which makes sense given that it's a creative process.

Sometimes you find out that a couple of renders didn't turn out how you intended, or you don't know exactly how to write a certain scene. It happens.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Which makes sense given that it's a creative process.

Sometimes you find out that a couple of renders didn't turn out how you intended, or you don't know exactly how to write a certain scene. It happens.

Or far worse and you find out SS is broken, no one can sub to a pay tier, so you suddenly possibly aren't getting a paycheck anymore, which takes a week to come up with a Plan B. Personally if I even bother trying to monetize my AVN when eventually that time comes this is one reason why I'll probably just take Bitcoin with a link to my wallet in the OP for a tip jar and call it a day. If I bother even doing that, haven't decided, I'm not rich (kids are going to have to pay their own way through college if they want to waste money on that, if that's an indicator) but also not really so desperate for money I need to kiss payment processor ass to the point it's not my story anymore like some platforms like Patreon or anyone connected to Visa/MC, one's creative freedom shouldn't be for sale, even if the content being made were outright illegal (which is the actual main reason I probably won't monetize it other than BTC: no money to follow/trace = doesn't even need to be legal, no dumbass disclaimers that are obvious bullshit required and directly base it a on true story if you want with true actual <18 ages by default with no silly age or relationship setters that have everyone guessing what they are supposed to be set as, and with logless VPNs that also take BTC for payment it would be a decades-long uphill struggle to find me and probably not worth it even to Australians if I lived there (Westy made it easy for them).

 

[tsugunai0]

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Does anyone know how i can get to this scene, i used unlocker to see it, but in need to know how to get there?