discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[Mr. Tearson]

Either way, folks. Do keep it peaceful and stay on topic. Seems as though ketzal made his choice. I do not think anyone will change his mind and I expect us to at least respect his decision. He was with us for a long time. It's the least we can do.

 

[JAW1986baby]

He has posted with in the last 24 hours or so on SubStar so it is not a 13 games thing.

I know that he wants to offer subs something not found in public versions and if the sub version leaked that could be why

Honestly since he is willing to give it out to Public, leaking should be avoided, I only want to pirate when the dev refuses to EVER make a public release.

 

[User_65561]

Honestly since he was willing to give it out to Public

FTFY (he no longer has an account here = no more free releases)

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I DM'd him on SS just now. Dunno where he is but time zones might be a thing. May or may not hear back, I'd be reluctant to chat about some website I just left and was still in a bad mood about (which he's prone to, one mean comment/accusation on SS out of 100+ positive ones about the last update hurt his feelings).

 

[Hellster]

I don't know what's the deal with ketzal is but I'm starting to think he's just in it for the money at this point. And last I heard, it was over a dispute between him and the Staffs of LewdCorner. Over his game getting leaked? Now you can't contact him because there's no Discord link. And you're forced to be a subscriber to message him. He's not in it for you guys at this point.

You said it yourself, you don't know what the deal is, but then just assume the worst of him, nice.... just stab the guy in the back as soon as his back is turned, classy.

 

[Mr. Tearson]

He has posted with in the last 24 hours or so on SubStar so it is not a 13 games thing.

I know that he wants to offer subs something not found in public versions and if the sub version leaked that could be why

Honestly since he is willing to give it out to Public, leaking should be avoided, I only want to pirate when the dev refuses to EVER make a public release.

I'm of the same belief as you are. But I'm also of the belief that if it gets leaked elsewhere, it should be added here, even if the sub version doesn't get updated like the public does, the traffic for LC will still come here. And yes, 90% of the times, we talk with Devs before adding it in case they needed to make some changes. We aren't without reasons.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

FTFY (he no longer has an account here = no more free releases)

There's a few other loli sites that still allow it, though I haven't checked them recently (not nearly as lively as this bunch). And you can be sure some sub (though not me, I dont'l wanna risk pissing off a dev and have them rage quit development, that has happened before) will leak it anyway eventually when it drops to the lowest 2 tiers. There's still over 1700 subs and it seldom drops below 1500 even in between updates, so the odds are high.

 

[Skully_Tophat_Man420]

You said it yourself, you don't know what the deal is, but then just assume the worst of him, nice....

Yeah but... Literally been months since that incident. And if you read the comments since, it's hard NOT to believe it. I just can't support someone who feels the need to make everyone else punish for it, too. Even if it is unintentional.

Pretty sure that applies to all devs on SS (sub to message)

Fair enough. Just that there's no way to freely send him a message right now.

 

[User_65561]

even if the sub version doesn't get updated like the public does

Will there even be a public version now?
If he's not here, then I doubt he has any reason to make a public version going forward.

90% of the times, we talk with Devs before adding it in case they needed to make some changes.

I am the 10%

Fair enough. Just that there's no way to freely send him a message right now.

Well he's on my Discord server, he chats whenever he feels like it (same as everyone else)

 

[Mr. Tearson]

Will there even be a public version now?
If he's not here, then I doubt he has any reason to make a public version going forward.

Honestly, I have no idea. But we'll see what happens from now on. I know he has a Discord somewhere... Just never joined it, I don't think. So if he has non-tiers in there, a public release is bound to happen.

I am the 10%

I admit, I have not been keeping track of your game thread. Will talk with Staff about this.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Will there even be a public version now?
If he's not here, then I doubt he has any reason to make a public version going forward.



I am the 10%


Well he's on my Discord server, he chats whenever he feels like it (same as everyone else)

Both free public/paywalled have have their merits and there's usually no differences between them other than bugfixes discovered in the pay version, but paywalling it tends to just make people leak it more (best to leave a spillway in the dam rather than have it break). As far as advertising the first 11 versions are already here and it's not like Little Witch Academy and completely removed.

 

[User_65561]

Well Ketzal posted the reason why he left on my Discord, not going to post it here as I don't want to shitstir.

 

[Hellster]

Honestly, I have no idea. But we'll see what happens from now on. I know he has a Discord somewhere... Just never joined it, I don't think. So if he has non-tiers in there, a public release is bound to happen.


I admit, I have not been keeping track of your game thread. Will talk with Staff about this.

The game will still go public, but it just won't be uploaded here by him, for obvious reasons

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I just got a reply from Ketzal on SS. Copy/pasted: "I'm still here and working, not you worry My discord is public now, I don't see the need to me to stay on the forum. Thanks for asking"

So for the fans complaining about not being able to contact him his Discord is now public (though for how long is anyone's guess, they are about as loli-friendly as F95 is). Though dunno why people feel the need to be able to talk to an AVN equivalent of a rock star when they are non-paying fans. Message anyone with even a modicum of fame and they tend to ignore you while their publicist deals with you, other than perhaps an autograph if you went to their concert and happened to get a backstage pass. And even then there's a small chance that they could be like Adam Levine “I don't give autographs to ugly chicks”.

 

[Hellster]

I just got a reply from Ketzal on SS. Copy/pasted: "I'm still here and working, not you worry My discord is public now, I don't see the need to me to stay on the forum. Thanks for asking"

So for the fans complaining about not being able to contact him his Discord is now public (though for how long is anyone's guess, they are about as loli-friendly as Fuck95 is). Though dunno why people feel the need to be able to talk to an AVN equivalent of a rock star when they are non-paying fans. Message anyone with even a modicum of fame and they tend to ignore you while their publicist deals with you, other than perhaps an autograph if you went to their concert and happened to get a backstage pass.

Yes the discord is public, but non-subs have channel restrictions and can't post links etc (for security/server safety reasons).

 

[Mr. Tearson]

I just got a reply from Ketzal on SS. Copy/pasted: "I'm still here and working, not you worry My discord is public now, I don't see the need to me to stay on the forum. Thanks for asking"

So for the fans complaining about not being able to contact him his Discord is now public (though for how long is anyone's guess, they are about as loli-friendly as Fuck95 is). Though dunno why people feel the need to be able to talk to an AVN equivalent of a rock star when they are non-paying fans. Message anyone with even a modicum of fame and they tend to ignore you while their publicist deals with you, other than perhaps an autograph if you went to their concert and happened to get a backstage pass.

If you have the discord links, feel free to share it here so I can add it to the main thread. Getting a bit annoying with some people dm-ing me, asking me this question.

 

[Freyr]

I just got a reply from Ketzal on SS. Copy/pasted: "I'm still here and working, not you worry My discord is public now, I don't see the need to me to stay on the forum. Thanks for asking"

So for the fans complaining about not being able to contact him his Discord is now public (though for how long is anyone's guess, they are about as loli-friendly as Fuck95 is). Though dunno why people feel the need to be able to talk to an AVN equivalent of a rock star when they are non-paying fans. Message anyone with even a modicum of fame and they tend to ignore you while their publicist deals with you, other than perhaps an autograph if you went to their concert and happened to get a backstage pass.

Too bad because Discord doesn't like my VPN and I don't like Discord for that reason.
And there is no way in hell that I will do any phone verification to visit a porn channel.

I am quite sure that there are more people like me who don't do Discord and for those people forums like this is a solution.
Devs who quit forums like this one therefore lose interaction with part of the fanbase, even if they are not paying *at the moment*.

On the other hand, devs won't have much influence on piracy either way. The game will end up here and on similar sites eventually.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

If you have the discord links, feel free to share it here so I can add it to the main thread. Getting a bit annoying with some people dm-ing me, asking me this question.

You must be registered to see links

is what's in my browser. Not sure if it's the same as public (do subs have their own Ketzal/SSP server?), as I got the link long ago as a sub.

 

[Hellster]

If you have the discord links, feel free to share it here so I can add it to the main thread. Getting a bit annoying with some people dm-ing me, asking me this question.

You must be registered to see links

 

[Hellster]

You must be registered to see links

is what's in my browser. Not sure if it's the same as public (do subs have their own Ketzal/SSP server?), as I got the link long ago as a sub.

Subs/public will be using the same discord server, but as mentioned in my previous post, public only have access to certain channels and can't post links etc on there