discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[snakeplisskin]

ok so i manage to click the helmet but macy didn't show up so i don't know what i did wrong

If you are on the Family path (harem) Cassey and hailey show up at the door but macey is alive.

 

[TheOneWhoFucks1246]

i'm also trying to get the "seeing macy at the hospital" in the gallery how do i get that scene. it's the only one i'm missing

thanks for reassuring me that i got it right

snakeplisskin​

 

[Corpse]

i'm also trying to get the "seeing macy at the hospital" in the gallery how do i get that scene. it's the only one i'm missing

thanks for reassuring me that i got it right

snakeplisskin​

In order to unlock that scene you must pick the Family Path & tell Cassey that you want to see Macy in her hospital bed after she shoots herself, picking this option means that Macy will die. The scene you're missing should start playing after you take Hailey to school to pick up Leana.

 

[jejoen]

ScriptError: could not find label 'chp3_P2_04'.

how to fix?

 

[snakeplisskin]

Hey Ketzal just wanted to say i really enjoyed the update and you did a fantadtic job as always.

 

[BadJM]

I have a big problem with this game. Now every time I play a new game I am automatically comparing the visuals to this one and it's really hard to find one that matches this in quality.

 

[adam_jc88]

One of the best VNs out there. Well written and visually beautiful, a breath of fresh air.

 

[zerodead]

UPDATE 0.8R
I did a quick translation to Portuguese, it is not a professional translation, and a simply amateur translation.

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Atualização v0.8R
Fiz uma tradução para o português, não e uma tradução profissional, e uma tradução simplesmente amadora.

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Tradução com pouca revisão para a versão :v0.8R

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[TheElwoodBlues]

Any plans to have version 7.3R here?

 

[BadJM]

Any plans to have version 7.3R here?

It hasn't even been released on SS yet. But yeah it will eventually be posted here as well. I think the public release is around 2 weeks after it is released on SS.

 

[CrapFace]

@ketzal I had to start from scratch again, not because my saves didn't work, but just because I had mixed up my paths...
So this 'bug' probably wasn't spotted during testing because likely it was concentrated on the later parts.

This happens the first time MC wakes up at his sister's house (label chp1_01), after the scenes with Alice in the hotel room (the flashback 2 days before MC visits his sister)
When MC wakes up, he finds Leana sitting on top of him... after some back and forth, MC then says...

File: game/Scripts/Story/Chapter 1/P1/chp1_01.rpy
Line: 63
Who:  me
What: "Thank you for waking me up, [me.sweetNCE4!l]. It's always lovely to be woken up tenderly by my daught... by my [nce.roleToMC!l]."

followed by

File: game/Scripts/Story/Chapter 1/P1/chp1_01.rpy
Line: 65
Who:  t
What: "I almost told her I was her [me.roleToDG!l]! I have to be really fucking careful."

This clearly implies that the value for [nce.roleToMC] should at this point still derive to Niece
However, Update.rpy has forced this to Daughter in the code construction which tests various $ _version values where it a.o. tests if label prol_04 has already been played.

This occurs because at the above point in the game, where MC wakes up with Leana sitting on top of him. label prol_04 has indeed already been seen.
However, even though MC becomes aware at the end of label prol_04 that Leana is in fact his daughter, during the above dialogue between MC and Leana in label chp1_01, Leana doesn't know that and still thinks MC is her uncle.

This is the risk when mixing variables and literals throughout, because later, when MC drives Leana to school, it's shown correctly, but here the literal form is used...

File: game/Scripts/Story/Chapter 1/P1/chp1_06.rpy
Line: 23
Who:  me
What: "It wouldn't occur to me to stop kissing my beautiful d... niece."

In addition to what I already said in my DM, this section for example shows a confusing number of mixed usages of variables and literals.
There's absolutely no consistency when the code refers to Tiffany, Tiff or Eve here, both the variable and literal forms are used in the same dialogue lines without it being clear at all why...
If you're going to use variables, at least use them consistently. Although, if there's no intention ever to have users change relations/nicknames/etc there's really no use for variable forms except for cases where their values are conditional, e.g. based on story progression (in the case of referring to Leana as niece or daughter) or menu choices (with relation to how Macy refers to MC as either Big Boy or Little Monster)

 

[Nastastic]

I load up the new update and the first thing I see is that Hailey's age has not been changed.

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I deleted everything in the game folder except for the saves; this is continuing from a 6.32 save. No files have been overwritten or duplicated.

 

[CrapFace]

I load up the new update and the first thing I see is that Hailey's age has not been changed.

I deleted everything in the game folder except for the saves; this is continuing from a 6.32 save. No files have been overwritten or duplicated.

Did you perhaps delete the persistent file or the saves in %appdata%\renpy? Because I just loaded my save continuing from 0.6.32 (where Nicole opens the door and Cassey and Hailey are standing there) end for me it shows the age I gave her.

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[Nastastic]

Did you perhaps delete the persistent file or the saves in %appdata%\renpy? Because I just loaded my save continuing from 0.6.32 (where Nicole opens the door and Cassey and Hailey are standing there) end for me it shows the age I gave her.

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I did not delete my persistent file or appdata saves because I did not wish to start the game over again or have previously unlocked replays reset. I don't think you normally set an age for Hailey directly, her age is based on the ages of other girls.

You have Hailey and presumably Leana set at age 15?

 

[CrapFace]

I did not delete my persistent file or appdata saves because I did not wish to start the game over again or have previously unlocked replays reset. I don't think you normally set an age for Hailey directly, her age is based on the ages of other girls.

You have Hailey and presumably Leana set at age 15?

Yep, Hailey's age you can't set but is the same as Leana's, who's age you do get asked at the beginning. And looking at Tiffany, who is 2 years younger, there's no way that both Hailey and Leana can be 18.
Given how Tiffany looks, Leana (and Hailey) could at most be 14 or 15, I chose 14 at the start of the game so towards the end of 0.6.32 that made Leana 15.
What can I say Something needs to validate the loli tag
Besides, if they _were_ 18, Leana could already be in college most likely, Alice then being 20 most definitely, yet she gets enrolled in the same school as Leana

 

[Nastastic]

Yep, Hailey's age you can't set but is the same as Leana's, who's age you do get asked at the beginning. And looking at Tiffany, who is 2 years younger, there's no way that both Hailey and Leana can be 18.
Given how Tiffany looks, Leana (and Hailey) could at most be 14 or 15, I chose 14 at the start of the game so towards the end of 0.6.32 that made Leana 15.
What can I say Something needs to validate the loli tag
Besides, if they _were_ 18, Leana would already be in college most likely, Alice most definitely, yet she gets enrolled in the same school as Leana

I went with the default (lowest) values for ages. This makes Alice 15 and the two younger girls 9 (almost 10) and Tiffany is 7 going on 8. Fifteen is way too old for how short and flat-chested Leana and Hailey are. And those ages validate the loli tag much more than yours.

 

[jah-ith-ber]

Doesn't make sense for Leana to be that young though when she was talking to the MC she said she hadn't started menarche yet and the MC was like " well you're not that old yet so it will probably be next year". Most women start menarche age 12 +/- so she's probably 11-12> or 12->13 and short/flat-chested for lack of puberty. If she was 9->10 then no one would expect her to have started puberty yet but she was concerned and MC was mulling it over that shes later than the other girls

 

[marcomemmey]

The "standard" ages for Alice and Leana are 15 and 9 respectively, isnt it? I never changed it when it asks you when you begin the game so I assume those are the canon ages.

Yep. 15 and 9

 

[Nastastic]

Doesn't make sense for Leana to be that young though when she was talking to the MC she said she hadn't started menarche yet and the MC was like " well you're not that old yet so it will probably be next year". Most women start menarche age 12 +/- so she's probably 11-12> or 12->13 and short/flat-chested for lack of puberty. If she was 9->10 then no one would expect her to have started puberty yet but she was concerned and MC was mulling it over that shes later than the other girls

You have the option to choose whether she has gotten her period or not. If you choose no she says that her mother says she should have them, but she doesn't yet, but maybe on her birthday? Most girls don't actually get their period until 11-13 years old, though 9 and even 8 are not unheard of (meaning a Tiffany pregnancy may even be possible). The MC never thinks she is late. If her mother thinks she should have had her period by 9, it is likely to be a family trait (likely compounded from generations of inbreeding).

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[CrapFace]

Fifteen is way too old for how short and flat-chested Leana and Hailey are.

You think? I've seen 18-year-old college girls that had even less developed tits than Alice... It's all relative, there's no rule that says a 15-year-old girl should have tits bigger than a handful (and Alice's are definitely bigger than a handful)

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In the end it's all moot, we all go with the ages we like them to have, regardless if they're fitting or not Otherwise Ketzal wouldn't have set the upper limits to 20