discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[killlra]

Harem or Mother's death?
Dev is too evil!!!!

 

[whiteD_4_black_hoes]

It is for all these reasons that I have cut a scene in the last update. This scene with Clem (by the way, Clem is short for Clementine), explains a lot. This scene will be in the next version.

"...oh my darlin', oh my darlin', oh my DAAAR-lin' Clementine, u are lost n gone forever, o my darlin' Clementine" of all the girl names in the universe ?‍

Harem or Mother's death?
Dev is too evil!!!!

think u got that backwards bruh...harem path she dies, family path she lives; so it should go "Family or Mother's Death?" b/c i think a majority of us here want what you're saying...harem path with MC's mom

 

[Moss]

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oohh, ok...see, that makes more sense now. i was under the impression that other ppl were saying MC's dad n Macy's dad were the same person; but now i understand, n what i originally thought, that they're 2 separate ppl. n now that line in the hospital flashback scene with Macy n Leana arguing makes a lot more sense, when Leana tells Macy she doesn't care if she sleeps with her husband.

which also connects with the flashback scene where Macy n her dad-husband are arguing, n he's angry at her for cheating on him with a younger, better looking guy, n saying the MC isn't his kid, which makes the MC n Cassey half-siblings. n if the MC noticed both arguments, why isn't he able to put this together, n realize Cassey is his half-sister? would he have still continued to date, n eventually marry, her n have kids with her?

then that's why Cassey takes Hailey with her to France, b/c she had Clem (weird name for a girl btw) track down MC's mystery sister, which is where Macy went to have the kid after MC knocked her up. so for me, i guess the only thing i still have a question about is why Nicole named her daughter after Cassey's mom? since she picked on her when they were younger, does she feel remorse for Cassey after realizing she was bullying her while her mom had cancer, n is her attempt/way of trying to make amends with, n apologize to, Cassey?

n just thought of something else i don't get...if MC n Clem were that close as friends when they were younger, why did he cut off all contact with her after the night when he stopped Cassey from committing suicide? she was obviously ready to give him her virginity on that night, so why not stay friends n get some, even though he was dating Cassey?

I can’t keep up with all this. Lol. Hope someone posts a family tree or something.

 

[marcomemmey]

Tried making one to the best of my ability, apologies if it's complicated to understand, it's not complicated in my head but it's hard to put it in an incest tree.

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[sincinbearcity]

Tried making one to the best of my ability, apologies if it's complicated to understand, it's not complicated in my head but it's hard to put it in an incest tree.

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Damn dude, try to imagine what that web's gonna look like after the game, lmao.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Harem or Mother's death?
Dev is too evil!!!!

Eh my horny perverted self would just justify the harem by accepting the fact that mom was 60 and just going to die in around 20 years anyway, with her pussy already starting to dry out, codependency and her other issues aside.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Tried making one to the best of my ability, apologies if it's complicated to understand, it's not complicated in my head but it's hard to put it in an incest tree.

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That actually looks alot simpler than the spaghetti mess I have in my head that is more Gordian knot than tree. I wouldn't know where to put Alice, since genetically she's Nicole's, Cassey was just a surrogate.

 

[marcomemmey]

That actually looks alot simpler than the spaghetti mess I have in my head that is more Gordian knot than tree. I wouldn't know where to put Alice, since genetically she's Nicole's, Cassey was just a surrogate.

Yeah I should have Cassey with the different color link to Alice, instead of Nicole. Well, it's already done and most people will understand.

 

[Fumbledore]

Call me crazy, but something has started making me doubt that Leana (the kid) is Nicole's biological daughter.(very different eyes)
Either she isnt and I just missed the obvious fact. (or I'm so dumb that I end up really smurt )
Or, I'm wrong, and just completely paranoid thanks to Ketzal

this is just a crazy theory, so definitely not a spoiler or whatever. Consider it wacky and ramblings of an old man
that said, I honestly havent read most of the comments...too lazy so if this theory or potential facts has been uttered..well oops?

(edit: put it in spoiler despite it just being silly theories..but better safe than sorry)

 

[Nastastic]

Call me crazy, but something has started making me doubt that Leana (the kid) is Nicole's biological daughter.(very different eyes)
Either she isnt and I just missed the obvious fact. (or I'm so dumb that I end up really smurt )
Or, I'm wrong, and just completely paranoid thanks to Ketzal

this is just a crazy theory, so definitely not a spoiler or whatever. Consider it wacky and ramblings of an old man
that said, I honestly havent read most of the comments...too lazy so if this theory or potential facts has been uttered..well oops?

(edit: put it in spoiler despite it just being silly theories..but better safe than sorry)

I super doubt that is true. Keep in mind that young adult Cassey and present-day Alice have very similar looks. despite (likely) being no more closely related than aunt and niece.

But would you like to hear a really retarded theory that occured to me late at night (and no, I do not believe this to be true, maybe we can write this off as an homage to 4/20 ?):

Spoiler: Yeah, man, like...

*inhales deeply and holds the smoke for several seconds* What if, like, little Leana, you know, the MC's daughter, and like, past Leana, like, Cassey's mom, are, like, the same person, man, through like, time-travel shenanigans or some shit? Wouldn't that be wild, man? And like, she was pregnant as a teen by, like, the MC when she traveled back but like, didn't know it, man, and like, she met the muscles guy and fucked him and like, he thought he was the baby-daddy but really, like, Cassey, she's like...the MC's daughter and shit, man! That would be like, some fucked-up shit, man!

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[BeowulfKnight]

I'm sad to say, but if it's either a choice of the mom, or a harem of sisters and smols then I'd help get the plank out myself lol. Honestly though I replayed the whole thing 3 times to try and see if I was just fucking up in some way because, like the pokemon collector I am, I wanted to catch and breed them all! I think I'm going to have to make a damn flow chart to keep track of how everyone is related though haha.

 

[Republican Bear]

Well don't forget your two kids with Cassey.
Are probably not hers like I hinted two pages ago. As she couldn't get pregnant the natural way.

On the family path it's foreshadowed in a hidden flashback. Also Clem will tell you the answer is in the eyes of your daughters.

 

[whiteD_4_black_hoes]

Tried making one to the best of my ability, apologies if it's complicated to understand, it's not complicated in my head but it's hard to put it in an incest tree.

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dude, that's perfect...diagram of what i was trying to explain with words; but i guess i don't remember any mention of Martin's mom (Macy's grandma); so he was never married, n had Macy n Sophie with his mom? guess i'll go back n check out the flashbacks again; thanks for this

 

[marcomemmey]

dude, that's perfect...diagram of what i was trying to explain with words; but i guess i don't remember any mention of Martin's mom (Macy's grandma); so he was never married, n had Macy n Sophie with his mom? guess i'll go back n check out the flashbacks again; thanks for this

it's not from any flashback, it's from the Macy side story

Well don't forget your two kids with Cassey.
Are probably not hers like I hinted two pages ago. As she couldn't get pregnant the natural way.

On the family path it's foreshadowed in a hidden flashback. Also Clem will tell you the answer is in the eyes of your daughters.

I think Hailey might be fully Cassey's child, in the office MC monologues "Hailey reminds Cassey of herself", maybe because she's her actual biological child, even though there's no evidence that she favors Hailey over Alice.

 

[ramvivat]

how do you know this and from what age is this possible? This is something I've been curious about.

1) about little girls which CAN give birth
what documented
1 Lina Medina (Perou) 5y 7m
2 Lisa (USSR, Kharkov) 6y

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2) how and where i found this? google, Luke, google. and correct query.
well i'm russian - i searched by yandex and searched in russian internet.

 

[Jellyluve]

I do find it kind of odd that the player got to choose the ages for two of the Mc's daughters at the front of the game (Alice and Leana) but didn't get the choice to change Hailey's.

 

[User_4246]

I do find it kind of odd that the player got to choose the ages for two of the Mc's daughters at the front of the game (Alice and Leana) but didn't get the choice to change Hailey's.

I'd assume her age would change depending on the age set for the other 2, or at least one of them.

 

[Jellyluve]

I'd assume her age would change depending on the age set for the other 2, or at least one of them.

Well, it is saying that Hailey is 18 years old, and let's just say that doesn't make any sense in my playthrough ().

So going off that, it looks like Hailey's age is hard-coded at the moment and isn't connected to the MC's other daughters' ages.

 

[marcomemmey]

The dev already said he's gonna fix it next update.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I do find it kind of odd that the player got to choose the ages for two of the Mc's daughters at the front of the game (Alice and Leana) but didn't get the choice to change Hailey's.

It simplifies things. Really just picking Leana's would be enough if everyone else was based on hers (ie Alice = Leana +5). It's already done that way for everyone else (ie Tiffany = Leana -2). Better still, make them non-fake 18's from the start like in One Summer In Loliwood (everyone appropriate ages for the story by default, most are 7-15, no reader input or patches required).