discussion NTR is not a dream, its a nightmare. Just say NO to NTR!

[Mr. Tearson]

I agree with you. Then again,,,,,,,,, i won't just sit here and let someone insult me for just posting facts.
Coming from a member that just want's to troll is one thing, I don't care about their opinion as they do not matter in my day to day
A dev of a game doing it is something else, Hence i wrote the Check before you start insulting people line.

Anyway,, i'll just stick to facts like i have been doing.

Doesn't matter. If someone insult you, report them and we'll take care of it. Continuing the drama would get all parties involved in trouble. And considering this thread is for NTR, it's why I step in every now and then to remind people to keep things civil. We don't need things getting all toxic and shit.

 

[24Broad]

I'm actually suprised by these results. A majority is so-so with NTR. It's just that if I had to choose to include NTR in a game I'd do without it. But I guess I can sort of understand it a bit if the MC is the one doing the cucking.

 

[LimaYankee]

+1 For being the one that cucks
Corruption Fetish is great

 

[Hynegard]

I mean, Netori is pretty common in pretty much all porn games. The whole point is usually that you are a chad fucking everyones girls.

 

[bigdaddymaks]

You can't say one thing for sure in this matter!
In my opinion, Japanesse NTR is really awful, I don't enjoy watching MCs being humiliated.
But at the same time there are games with NTR that are not even badly done, I mean, it's cool when NTR is like punishing the player for being low-skill, or not doing enough grind, like not pumping in strength or intelligence, or not paying attention to his love partner, or cheating left and right, the idea itself is cool, and it always makes you think about every move you make, not just press CTRL and fuck everyone.

 

[LostWaffle]

I like netori well enough, but I'm not really a fan of netorare. Netorase can be ok. That's all assuming that this is with a male protag, for me at least. I wish that NTR didn't cover all 3 of those at the same time though

 

[Ribaso]

I'm not Just against NTR,​

I'm philosophically against it. It's like suffering a serious infection,
Then announce you're cured because you allowed it, and vice versa.
It doesn't make sense, and has an atrocious aftertaste to it.
There is nothing that can make me get what power can it ever grant.

 

[shrandle]

Hi there. Just gathering opinions on the title question. If there are clones or copies of the protagonist in a game and the clone(s) have sex with a love interest, does it count as NTR? My thinking is that if the clone is independent of the MC and can act autonomously then it's yes. On the other hand if the clone is created by the MC and is basically an extension of his will (think shadow clones form Naruto) then it's a no.

I'm mostly interested in this as a way to have gangbangs in a harem game while still having the MC be the only male with access to the harem. Thoughts?

 

[MattShizzle]

I would think so.

 

[User_110761]

Ooooh, that's actually a really good question! Along these same lines, if you have sex with your clone, is that masturbation or incest? Or both?!

 

[MattShizzle]

Ooooh, that's actually a really good question! Along these same lines, if you have sex with your clone, is that masturbation or incest? Or both?!

There was an old SF story we read (in 1996, when I was in college taking a lit course in 20th Century SF) and it had parts where clones of the same person (of both sexes) fucked. Someone asked "isn't that incest?" The prof asked "is it incest or masturbation?"
Also, if cloning was able to be done like that (where it could be made instant or very fast adult) and someone told you to go fuck yourself, you kind of could...

 

[User_110761]

There was an old SF story we read (in 1996, when I was in college taking a lit course in 20th Century SF) and it had parts where clones of the same person (of both sexes) fucked. Someone asked "isn't that incest?" The prof asked "is it incest or masturbation?"
Also, if cloning was able to be done like that (where it could be made instant or very fast adult) and someone told you to go fuck yourself, you kind of could...

That's awesome! I totally agree that you'd have to have the ability to age it up real fast. Maybe we can look into using the replicator from Star Trek.

 

[stangnomez]

Depends on if it's clones or "clones". An actual clone would be more similar to your kid than to you, and would count. A "clone" would depend on what it actually is.

 

[Republican Bear]

Probably though it's a tough call. As it another version of you.

One solution is your linked and feel everything they do.

 

[kikomascado]

Unless it is temporary, like when having a superpower to create copies of yourself that will disappear/merge back into you, a clone would essentially be your twin brother. Most clones in media are just beings created from your DNA, which is basically what happens with embryos sometimes. So it would definitely be NTR.
That said, I would easily share girls with a clone. Hahaha

 

[shrandle]

Unless it is temporary, like when having a superpower to create copies of yourself that will disappear/merge back into you, a clone would essentially be your twin brother.

This is mostly what I'm thinking and is why I reference shadow clones since they just pop into and out of existence as needed.

 

[qyruixyhg]

It depends if you have a "concious" mind on the clone, as does the clone shares the same feeling and thoughts with MC? can the MC see what the clone see? If yes, then it's not NTR. If not, then it's getting on the spectrum of NTR, not fully NTR yet but it's only fully NTR if the clone has it's own mind.

 

[MattShizzle]

It depends if you have a "concious" mind on the clone, as does the clone shares the same feeling and thoughts with MC? can the MC see what the clone see? If yes, then it's not NTR. If not, then it's getting on the spectrum of NTR, not fully NTR yet but it's only fully NTR if the clone has it's own mind.

Normally a clone wouldn't. AFAWK IRL or in SF. Obviously only non-humans have been cloned. No reason to think they'd share a mind though.

 

[Parroute]

From my view it depends on whether the clone have its own mind. If yes then its a creature of its own and ntr if not its a masturbator/extension of mc.

 

[maximus]

Gonna concur with the ideas so far. if its a temorary clone like merges back in then not NTR.. if its a seperate entity that is its own person then NTR.

Spoiler: lust theory 2 spoiler

The perfect example i have is in Lust theory 2 the MC can split himself and then merge back when he high fives himself. i didn't consider him and his clone banging 2 different LI's at the same time as NTR