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VN Ren'Py VAM Idle Hands [v1.0] [Montag]

Good start so far. The story and writing are well done and with a little bit of polish will make it an even better game. Keep up the good work and good luck.
 
really good.. just wish I understood Spanish lol. They have any links?
 
judging by the picture, by the way the characters are standing, one can suspect some parallels with VN "corrupted love". but I'm still downloading and haven't launched it. but it's very interesting, at least because the project is from the Spanish dev and they know how to do it.

is boy really a boy? i mean is the boy made from male model? because he looks slightly feminine like he at real is a dyke hehe. really face of his girl like. and adam apple hot very seen.
 
Can you make MC related to them or not?
 
Great job with the internal and the external monologue, feel really natural and well done - looking forward to seeing where this continues!
 
Can you make MC related to them or not?
You know, it's one thing to rewrite the dialogue. It's another thing to change the visuals without simply changing the dialogue. The scenes need to be completely different. For example, can you imagine sitting in the park and your mother and sister approach from afar, both completely unaware of you until you wave at them? And then they go home without inviting you? All these little details ruin the integrity of the picture.
@GiantPixi, The fact that a son and mother can differ in appearance—if the parents are of different races, then this is quite common. And children of different ages can be dissimilar—I'll leave that point on the "quite possible" list.
And the MC scene and the mother-daughter shower scene—they don't fit. Usually, all of this is preceded by a "long burn," because it's incest, right at the beginning, damn it! Why not long-lasting incest? Because otherwise, brother and sister would somehow be harmonized due to inbreeding.
But if you fork the plot and make your own version, you're welcome. It will be interesting to read a similar story with a different plot.

so sorry but no, no incest MC+Miriam+Isabella. only MC + oyakodon of mom+daughter incest. be happy from what you have.
 
Nice start. It would be great to have some choices so it would feel more like a game. Things like: Touch her ass/tits, kiss her cheek/lips, tickle/goose
 
That was a pretty good start, Marisol is awesome.
heh is MC can eventually make Marisol ****-mom? it will be fun.

I also enjoyed it mostly. It does lean fairly heavily into the porn logic aspect of adult games, though. While sure, there might be one in a million mothers who would both be attracted to their own daughter and effectively pimp her out to "the right guy", realistically this would never happen. It's a nice fantasy and I have no problem with the idea for the game; it would just be nice if it weren't quite so porn-logicky.
 
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I also enjoyed it mostly. It does lean fairly heavily into the porn logic aspect of adult games, though. While sure, there might be one in a million mothers who would both be attracted to their own daughter and effectively pimp her out to "the right guy", realistically this would never happen. It's a nice fantasy and I have no problem with the idea for the game; it would just be nice if it weren't quite so porn-logicky.
If you think about it, any mother is essentially prostituting her daughter, trying to marry her off to a rich groom. It's crude and unvarnished, but that's how it is IRL.

And in general, women treat each other much more harshly than men treat each other.
For example, there's a saying, "Two housewives can't get along in the same kitchen," which shows how women truly treat each other.
But who said it's impossible for women to treat each other like a brothel, where there are whores and where there's the main whore—the Mommy, the Mistress, the bottom Bitch?

Especially since we're seeing a female rebellion brewing in our family, since both mother and daughter are clearly interested in riding the same dick. To prevent this rebellion, the mother when her daughter undresses, doesn't undress herself, showing that she has a higher status, that she's the housewife, the bottom bitch in the brothel, the mistress, and her daughter is a simple slut whom she whoring out to her BF (MC).

Dude, just learn to read symbols

in this VN it is just we have a little buffoonery (exagerrating).
 
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If you think about it, any mother is essentially prostituting her daughter, trying to marry her off to a rich groom. It's crude and unvarnished, but that's how it is IRL.

Hard disagree. There are some mothers (maybe even many) who do this. But no, it's not "any mother". I have known plenty who actually wanted their daughter to be happy, not just "married off to a rich groom". Firstly, getting a daughter married to someone with wealth is a way to try to guarantee their financial stability in the future, making sure she's taken care of. That's not "prostituting" anyone; that's trying to make sure she's cared for. It's a totally different motivation. Secondly, there are even some mothers who more heavily prefer their daughter be happy than well-off. I have known mothers like that, my own included. I'm sorry, but your experience apparently differs widely from my own.

And in general, women treat each other much more harshly than men treat each other.
For example, there's a saying, "Two housewives can't get along in the same kitchen," which shows how women truly treat each other.
But who said it's impossible for women to treat each other like a brothel, where there are whores and where there's the main whore—the Mommy, the Mistress, the bottom Bitch?

I never meant to imply it was impossible; in fact, I did say that there might be some mothers like that. Obviously not all mothers are the same. But if a mother actually loves her child, she wouldn't treat her like one of the whores in a brothel. No offense intended, but you really have a low view of mothers and daughters, apparently. This is not normal behavior where this game is set (the United States), and while I accept that this is an adult game and so some logic is dodged for convenient storytelling, I will never buy the argument that this is normally "how it is IRL", at least not in the location where the characters indicate this takes place. I think it's fine in this VN; that's why I said some porn logic is OK, as long as it's not excessive.

Especially since we're seeing a female rebellion brewing in our family, since both mother and daughter are clearly interested in riding the same dick. To prevent this rebellion, the mother when her daughter undresses, doesn't undress herself, showing that she has a higher status, that she's the housewife, the bottom bitch in the brothel, the mistress, and her daughter is a simple slut whom she whoring out to her BF (MC).

Dude, just learn to read symbols

in this VN it is just we have a little buffoonery (exagerrating).

I see no signs of the rebellion that you speak of. The daughter being interested doesn't imply rebellion. I'll buy that the mother might have been reinforcing her position by remaining clothed (though I'm not convinced that's really what was going on). But I don't believe that it shows she's "the bottom bitch" and her daughter is "a simple slut". You're free to have your own opinion, ofc, but I believe you're reading it in a harsher light than it's meant to be understood.
 
ok. we are from different cultures (i'm russian) - we may see things differently. i admit i can be wrong in you POV - but hey don't judge me too hard, for me it is as it is.

peace?
I see no signs of the rebellion that you speak of. The daughter being interested doesn't imply rebellion. I'll buy that the mother might have been reinforcing her position by remaining clothed (though I'm not convinced that's really what was going on). But I don't believe that it shows she's "the bottom bitch" and her daughter is "a simple slut". You're free to have your own opinion, ofc, but I believe you're reading it in a harsher light than it's meant to be understood.

Regarding the rebelliousness, I certainly confused cause and effect. The mother didn't see her daughter peeping at her and therefore couldn't say whether her daughter was peeping at her and, therefore, had no grounds for such an act.

But (!!!) nevertheless, she did notice her daughter's behavior near her boyfriend at the pool (when Isabelle allowed herself to expose herself in front of her mother's boyfriend). Incidentally, an attempt to "stake territory"—or, more accurately, an attempt to re-stake someone else's territory—is rebelliousness (or even a declaration of war—girls can fight more often than boys).

Oh, yes, the mother is certainly an open-minded woman with a sense of humor, but she noted the inappropriate behavior and made a note of it. At home, in the shower, she staged a "show execution," showing who's boss and whose man is really whose.

Yes, you may not think so, but in my eyes, it was nipping a rebellion in the bud, and not only that, but also "recruiting supporters" ("if you listen, you can use my boyfriend") – She won her daughter over back to her side, essentially re-establishing her mom authority over her daughter without a scandal (Oh how I wish to every daughter have such wise mother).

My mother told me a secret over a beer what happens when a girl discovers her period – in her eyes, she becomes her mother's equal (since she herself can ALREADY give birth) and can try to undermine her mother's authority in order to upgrade her status from a little girl to an adult woman who is listened to (and that's a rebellion, even if it's not conscious, but it's a rebellion, and it's better to suppress it early).
 
Nice game, but some images are not in it. As a habit, I check the images that come with the game, and I noticed that there are some that are not shown, like this one.
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Nice game, but some images are not in it. As a habit, I check the images that come with the game, and I noticed that there are some that are not shown, like this one.
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Maybe because... the story hasn't progressed to that point yet. It's definitely possible the dev kept rendering while other stuff was going, so you have extra images for later. Could you please put things like that in SPOILER tags in the future, though? I don't think I want to know of anything the dev has planned for the future and prefer to be pleasantly surprised.
 
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