discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Family Faring [Episode 6 HF 2] [Royal Games] Archived Version

[BadJM]

So will the original still be updated in the future, or are we stuck with a remake that nobody asked for (I assume)?

Nope the original will not be worked on anymore.

 

[WhiteVanDaycare]

This is still in Sinners since we still offer the OG ep 6 with loli's. Once remake gets to same point we will decide if we should drop old version. For now the remake doesn't have any new content, just less content (see Tiur post for breakdown)

 

[Tiur]

Pre-warning, I may not bother with the Ep3 Original->Remake comparison, or if I do, it'll be a while. We basically know what to expect at this point, and I'm not particularly enthused about playing it right away anyway.

 

[Tristin]

Awwww, I was quite enjoying this game. Tragic its done

 

[mangashool]

please gallery mode. thancks

 

[BadJM]

Pre-warning, I may not bother with the Ep3 Original->Remake comparison, or if I do, it'll be a while. We basically know what to expect at this point, and I'm not particularly enthused about playing it right away anyway.

It's basically the same game. He may add a few extra animations here and there but other than that, there aren't any major differences other than the girls having gigantism. I already ranted about this on cuck95, but he had a really good oportunity with the remake to fix some of the issues this game had in the early episodes but as we can see by what he did with the girls' models he decided to just be lazy and give us this.

 

[Playernonymous]

I haven't played the remake yet (and I'm not sure if I will, it seemed the only reason that the game creator gave the girls gigantism is so that he could put the game on F95. If so, that seems a dumb reason to piss off the OG fans of the game like myself. If the girls look the same, but were made bigger, it would be freaking awkward if the characters are treating the girls as if they were smaller (their OG size). I sincerely hope that he listens to the feedback and is able to resize the girls to their original height.

 

[BadJM]

I haven't played the remake yet (and I'm not sure if I will, it seemed the only reason that the game creator gave the girls gigantism is so that he could put the game on F95. If so, that seems a dumb reason to piss off the OG fans of the game like myself. If the girls look the same, but were made bigger, it would be freaking awkward if the characters are treating the girls as if they were smaller (their OG size). I sincerely hope that he listens to the feedback and is able to resize the girls to their original height.

I don't think it was to have the game on cuck95, he did it because he got scared when the stuff with westy happened. Lily still acts and dresses like a little girl so the whole thing just feels weird. If you played the original you should probably wait for them to release episode 7 because they aren't really making any changes to the story.

 

[Brossolic]

Thanks for sharing also Im a bit confused
there is link for : (remake Ep3) and (Ep6):
- Does it mean Ep 6 files only has episode 6? Or All chapters up to 6?
- Is there a current remake of the game and it's up to chapter 3, or just chapter 3 had been modified?

 

[BadJM]

Thanks for sharing also Im a bit confused
there is link for : (remake Ep3) and (Ep6):
- Does it mean Ep 6 files only has episode 6? Or All chapters up to 6?
- Is there a current remake of the game and it's up to chapter 3, or just chapter 3 had been modified?

Ep 6 is the old game, the dev is remaking the game and right now the remake is on episode 3.

 

[TOOB2021]

Episode 3 - Remake is ready for release!

Like always the episode will release according to supporter tiers, which is:

King/Queen and above: 13/03/24
Duke/Duchess: 18/03/24
Baron: 21/03/24 (Released 4 days earlier to compensate for last time)

Changelog:

+Reworked tons of dialogue
+Extended sex scenes
+4 new animations

 

[pregame]

I haven't played the remake yet (and I'm not sure if I will, it seemed the only reason that the game creator gave the girls gigantism is so that he could put the game on F95. If so, that seems a dumb reason to piss off the OG fans of the game like myself. If the girls look the same, but were made bigger, it would be freaking awkward if the characters are treating the girls as if they were smaller (their OG size). I sincerely hope that he listens to the feedback and is able to resize the girls to their original height.

Yea the game lost its excitment with the change. Why pay for what we already have only makinng the girls less interesting. Hope he gets back to the original. For me Im out.

 

[BadJM]

Yea the game lost its excitment with the change. Why pay for what we already have only makinng the girls less interesting. Hope he gets back to the original. For me Im out.

If he had not given gigantism to the girls, I wouldn't really care that much about him making them older. The reason why I don't really give a fuck about it for now, is that he didn't really make any changes that make it worth for the people that already played the original, to play the remake. Since he is remaking the whole thing he could've taken that oportunity to add some new stuff for the people that aren't on the NTR path, since that was one of the main criticisms of the original. But he just took the lazy route.

 

[yoyomistro]

This is still in Sinners since we still offer the OG ep 6 with loli's. Once remake gets to same point we will decide if we should drop old version. For now the remake doesn't have any new content, just less content (see Tiur post for breakdown)

Personally, I would hope that if you ever move the remake out of the Sinners section, you keep the old one here for archival purposes. Not a fan of games getting major overhauls and the old versions just get scoured from the web when they're effectively different games, even if the story is the same. I have old Early Access versions of mainstream Steam releases just for that reason lol.

 

[Harmonic]

If he had not given gigantism to the girls, I wouldn't really care that much about him making them older. The reason why I don't really give a fuck about it for now, is that he didn't really make any changes that make it worth for the people that already played the original, to play the remake. Since he is remaking the whole thing he could've taken that oportunity to add some new stuff for the people that aren't on the NTR path, since that was one of the main criticisms of the original. But he just took the lazy route.

I agree with you that he did not make any changes in the remake and I fully support these claims.
But the fact that the main remark was the lack of content on the path that does not apply to NTR is complete nonsense. There, firstly, there was nothing to see from that NTR, and secondly, all his opponents whom I see in chats are mostly sick in the head and aggressive people who believe that their opinion is more important than the opinion of the developers and anyone else. And all this results in a small group of people littering the comments so much that it seems like there is a whole army of them, although in fact this is not the case. Moreover, according to some game creators, it is precisely those who like NTR who will donate the most to developers who make games with two different paths of development. So, still, you shouldn’t mix your personal tastes here, this is already superfluous, especially with the pretext that this is supposedly the opinion of the majority, although this is not the case.

 

[BadJM]

I agree with you that he did not make any changes in the remake and I fully support these claims.
But the fact that the main remark was the lack of content on the path that does not apply to NTR is complete nonsense. There, firstly, there was nothing to see from that NTR, and secondly, all his opponents whom I see in chats are mostly sick in the head and aggressive people who believe that their opinion is more important than the opinion of the developers and anyone else. And all this results in a small group of people littering the comments so much that it seems like there is a whole army of them, although in fact this is not the case. Moreover, according to some game creators, it is precisely those who like NTR who will donate the most to developers who make games with two different paths of development. So, still, you shouldn’t mix your personal tastes here, this is already superfluous, especially with the pretext that this is supposedly the opinion of the majority, although this is not the case.

One of the reasons why the ntr fans end up being the ones that give more money to games with 2 paths is because devs, even if it's unintentional, they push away the vanilla players early on.
This game is a perfect example of that. For the first 6 episodes, if you're not on the NTR path, you not only get less content(ntr route gets the normal scenes with side girls + ntr scenes), you also barely get anything with the 2 main girls, who are the reason why people are playing the game in the first place. So yea no shit, the ntr fans are donating more. You're not giving any reasons for the other side to stick around.

 

[Harmonic]

One of the reasons why the ntr fans end up being the ones that give more money to games with 2 paths is because devs, even if it's unintentional, they push away the vanilla players early on.
This game is a perfect example of that. For the first 6 episodes, if you're not on the NTR path, you not only get less content(ntr route gets the normal scenes with side girls + ntr scenes), you also barely get anything with the 2 main girls, who are the reason why people are playing the game in the first place. So yea no shit, the ntr fans are donating more. You're not giving any reasons for the other side to stick around.

An even more ridiculous reason. This quite sounds like a ban on the developer to do NTR because if he doesn’t do it, then the vanilla fans will be offended and leave (which is also not true). And NTR fans are also to blame for this because they dare to pay the developer for what he does. This is ridiculous. Why do all other people play those games in which they are interested and only opponents of NTR are always dissatisfied with the content of the games and brazenly demand that the developers do what they like. Maybe you still don’t need to look for problems in others, but simply not create conflicts on this basis yourself and still begin to respect other people’s interests?

 

[BadJM]

An even more ridiculous reason. This quite sounds like a ban on the developer to do NTR because if he doesn’t do it, then the vanilla fans will be offended and leave (which is also not true). And NTR fans are also to blame for this because they dare to pay the developer for what he does. This is ridiculous. Why do all other people play those games in which they are interested and only opponents of NTR are always dissatisfied with the content of the games and brazenly demand that the developers do what they like. Maybe you still don’t need to look for problems in others, but simply not create conflicts on this basis yourself and still begin to respect other people’s interests?

Don't know if you missed the point of what I said on purpose but that is not even close to what I said. I never once said that the dev should remove or not create NTR content and I never once blamed NTR fans for supporting the game. What I said is that if you're not offering content for the people that don't like NTR, they will obviously not support your game because there isn't content for them. I don't think that is a very hard concept to understand. In the early episodes if you're not on the NTR path you will get less content, that is just a fact. And you also don't get much content with the main girls. So yeah, the majority of the people that will support the game are the people that are getting content, which in this case are the ntr fans. How the fuck is that blaming the fans? If anything I am blaming the dev for giving less content to the vanilla players.
What I said in previous posts is that since he is now, remaking the game, he could add some new scenes for the vanilla players since that was the main criticism the game got from that side. And that would also give some new content for the people that already played the original version.
You were the one that was kind of trying to make the argument that the vanilla players don't get more content because in these games the ntr fanbase is the one that donates more anyway.

 

[Harmonic]

Don't know if you missed the point of what I said on purpose but that is not even close to what I said. I never once said that the dev should remove or not create NTR content and I never once blamed NTR fans for supporting the game. What I said is that if you're not offering content for the people that don't like NTR, they will obviously not support your game because there isn't content for them. I don't think that is a very hard concept to understand. In the early episodes if you're not on the NTR path you will get less content, that is just a fact. And you also don't get much content with the main girls. So yeah, the majority of the people that will support the game are the people that are getting content, which in this case are the ntr fans. How the fuck is that blaming the fans? If anything I am blaming the dev for giving less content to the vanilla players.
What I said in previous posts is that since he is now, remaking the game, he could add some new scenes for the vanilla players since that was the main criticism the game got from that side. And that would also give some new content for the people that already played the original version.
You were the one that was kind of trying to make the argument that the vanilla players don't get more content because in these games the ntr fanbase is the one that donates more anyway.

Your requests are the same as what I would demand that the author create more NTR content, because everyone wants this content.
Moreover, in the game it is essentially minuscule. And it would even be justified. But I didn’t do that. It would be wrong of me.
And if you had written that the author would have simply added more content in the remake, I would have completely agreed with you. But you didn’t do this, instead you expressed your wishes under the guise that everyone wants it. But who is everyone? For example, I don’t want this. And I don’t want anyone to speak on my behalf. You don't have to do that.

 

[User_48642]

@Harmonic, @BadJM
Please move on from this discussion. Nothing good will come of it.