discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Family Faring [Episode 6 HF 2] [Royal Games] Archived Version

[HardDaddyTimes]

Thanks hand, but I was referring to the old ones before the update he said he would delete his images on the blog and start from scratch that's why I'm looking for the old images not the new ones released before the remasted update

They are old, non-canon pics, from before the "remaster". One is new, but you can't tell the difference.

 

[V&M]

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Could you tell me if there is any image of Lucy with another man (penetration, blowjob)? I already had this one (Lucy and her sister with Mateo). But I stopped supporting it a long time ago, so I don't know if there is an image like that.

 

[odiseo25]

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Do you have more photos you can share?

 

[yoyomistro]

Yeah I am not saying that vanilla games are always a success, there are a lot of shitty ones, but they have more room to grow since the audience is bigger. I don't really mind games with avoidable NTR as long as the dev gives equal attention to both paths. But I don't think it's really about being selfish. We all have preferences and especially if you actually want to support a game, you would want to support one where you can enjoy the game in its entirety. For most vanilla players there is no point in supporting a game financially if they have to avoid half of the game's content. It's the same for gay content for example. If someone who isn't into gay content has to choose between a game with 0 gay content and another with gay content even if avoidable, they will most likely choose to support the one that doesn't have any.

I think V&M's point is that vanilla (particularly harem, but other vanilla players as well), go out of their way to stalk/harass devs, brigade games, and basically form offensive campaigns to get fetishes they don't like removed from games. I don't think any other fetish preference does anything like this. Are some ntr/feet enjoyers aggressive advocates for their fetishes? Sure, but they don't do anything near what vanilla/harem players do.

Some of y'all say "Well, I don't do that, but I just prefer vanilla games and let devs know." But a lot of people who claim not to do those things will encourage/promote people who do. It fucks up the adult space and creates an artificial sense of an outsized demand for vanilla content. Not an NTR enjoyer, but I do absolutely hate vanilla romance/harem stuff (not all of it, only the pure vanilla stuff) and the artificial glut of it that's emerged in the last 5 years or so is absolutely due to the unhinged behavior of vanilla enjoyers, not just market incentives. This much vanilla content hasn't existed in over 30 years of adult game content, and it's not a result of "market insights".

 

[SeveredRealms]

Second time I am saying this and the last keep all off topic stuff out of the game thread. we have a offtopic section for this reason and even a section for ntr discussions. If I see anymore I am going to clean up the entire thread removing all offtopic discussion.

 

[dx_boost]

Another game with a useless remake prolonging development... This is like Skyrim now.

 

[Rufulus]

In my opinion the game was completely destroyed. A pity.

 

[BadJM]

In my opinion the game was completely destroyed. A pity.

I mean it really depends on if he is now able to post the game on other forums. If he is, then it actually can make the game grow a lot since most people on cuck95 for example, probably don't even know this game exists. The problem is that the girls, especially lily and angel, still look very young and we all know that cuck95 is not the most consistent forum when it comes to applying their rules. So there is a very big chance that they will still reject the game and in that case he just wasted all this time removing the main point of attraction, for nothing.

 

[yoyomistro]

I mean it really depends on if he is now able to post the game on other forums. If he is, then it actually can make the game grow a lot since most people on cuck95 for example, probably don't even know this game exists. The problem is that the girls, especially lily and angel, still look very young and we all know that cuck95 is not the most consistent forum when it comes to applying their rules. So there is a very big chance that they will still reject the game and in that case he just wasted all this time removing the main point of attraction, for nothing.

4 of Doc's games are over there. This has more than surpassed that standard at this point. Also Ric0h was there with the April patch removed as well. Should be fine since they have his other game Esteria is there already.

 

[BadJM]

4 of Doc's games are over there. This has more than surpassed that standard at this point. Also Ric0h was there with the April patch removed as well. Should be fine since they have his other game Esteria is there already.

Proud father was banned and the girls in that game don't look younger than the girls in corrupted love. Same thing with the guardian. There are probably other examples that I am forgetting. So yea they aren't really consistent with their rules.

 

[yoyomistro]

Proud father was banned and the girls in that game don't look younger than the girls in corrupted love. Same thing with the guardian. There are probably other examples that I am forgetting. So yea they aren't really consistent with their rules.

Yea, absolutely. I guess sometimes someone makes a decision and they'd rather stick to it than show dissension. However, this is an opportunity for a revision which they do undertake once a game is changed, and if this doesn't get cleared that would be extremely strange.

 

[BadJM]

Yea, absolutely. I guess sometimes someone makes a decision and they'd rather stick to it than show dissension. However, this is an opportunity for a revision which they do undertake once a game is changed, and if this doesn't get cleared that would be extremely strange.

I don't really expect much from that forum so it wouldn't surprise me if the decide that the changes aren't enough. My main issue with this game is that the vanilla players always get fucked. Before this whole thing we didn't get any content with the main girls because it wouldn't make sense storywise, which makes sense that the NTR paths progress a little faster but now we have to wait probably another year until to reach the point where they are leaving for the trip. Even the extra scene that is added in this release, is some voyeurism BS that most vanilla players probably don't care about.

 

[User_20285]

So I checked out the changes, ran a diff on the Ep1 scripts, and took a look at the changes in the code.

PLOT/NARRATIVE/CODE:

• Main Menu no longer shows Troy or Angel, just shows MC and his daughters.
• NTR switch is missing from Gallery for Lily (Youngest Daughter), though that may just be because there aren't any scenes for her either way yet.
• Gallery for Ep1 now has these scenes:
  • Lucy - "Downtown Movie Night" (masturbation while watching BBC porn scene) - this happened in the old version (though not with BBC porn), but was only a few renders and no animation, so it was not a gallery scene.
  • Angel - "I Saw an Angel" (voyeurism scene of Angel showering) - same as old, plus two new slight pose variations.
  • Amara - "Voyeur at Troy" (voyeurism scene of Amara/Troy fucking) - fully new, includes potential impregnation of Amara (by Troy, god forbid the MC ever get any in this game).
  • Deviants - "Deviant in the Bathroom" (gloryhole scene) - same as old.
• Gallery includes sections (with no scenes) for: Youngest Daughter, The Twins, Ivy, Gianna, Hana, Veronica, and Jessica. However, these are holdovers from the last pre-rework release, so they may not accurately depict any people with stories or scenes that might have been changed.

That said, there is also just a ton of code and variables from the old Episodes 2-6 still left in the game files, so we'll see.

Narratively, this was an almost entirely pointless rework. Almost nothing has changed.

• Troy and Angel are still coming on the trip, and Amara is not (which is not a change).
• MC voyeurism scene of Troy/Amara fucking was added, with an Inno/Corr point choice to see or not.
  • This also serves as the introduction to the inno/corr scale, since it's before the Gloryhole Girl scene now.
• Lily line about being "Little, literally!" changed to "Not so little anymore!"
• The text of the choice to not be attracted to Angel was changed from "Childish." to "Not my type."
• A couple comments about Lily being small for her age were changed to avoid mentioning age at all.
• Gloryhole Girl no longer calls the MC's cock 'mature' (word dropped), and no longer calls it her 'little schoolgirl pussy' (changed to 'tight schoolgirl pussy').
• Lily line about being "several heads smaller" changed to "a whole head smaller", so, yeah, she got physically scaled up (more on that later).
• The movie the MC and his daughters watch was changed, and the choice of whether to stop the movie when it gets steamy was removed.
  • This means the scene where the MC can explain oral sex to Lily was removed.
  • The original movie had a scene with a girl sucking a guy's dick.
  • The new movie now shows an explicit scene of a girl getting fucked by a BBC instead, except now it's unavoidable to see or have the girls see.
  • There is now instead a longer and unavoidable scene of Lucy masturbating (which was just a couple renders in the old version)
• Since she masturbates more now, and specifically to a BBC scene, this is a pretty strong implication, IMO, that Lucy will get fucked by Troy and fall for his BBC before the MC gets any from her. I guess that's a way to avoid needing an incest patch, if only other guys fuck the MC's daughters behind his back.

And that's it. That's literally all the narrative/plot changes made to E1 in the rework in terms of plot/scenes. There are a few other text corrections, but they're not remotely enough to justify a rework.

IMAGES:

Every image was re-rendered, but for almost all of them, it's tiny tweaks to lighting, poses, or angles. A lot of them would be completely indistinguishable without a close, side by side comparison. The exceptions, of course, are the girls:

Some of the girls' reworks are because they're literally the wrong scale.

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But mostly it's to make them taller and thus arguably old enough to not cause problems.
And for Lily, it's basically both at once, plus adding breasts.
For Angel, it's both but she also already had breasts (but they were weirdly-rendered in some renders).
Some of the scale changes look weird, though; Lily's head looks bigger than the MC's in several renders now.

So there you have it. If anyone was wondering about details of the changes so far, here they are. My gut reaction? Not much change, tbh (though I preferred the smaller girls despite some of the scale issues), but I suspect, given which changes were made, the game is likely to go farther in the NTR direction. That should please some, and turn away others, of course.

Edit: Bah, webp images aren't displaying right. Edited and posted screencaps instead.

Why can't the MC ever get laid? If you're going to do an optional NTR, give both routes the same amount of content. If one is just a token, come out with it and say that instead of wasting people's time.

 

[Hellster]

Why can't the MC ever get laid? If you're going to do an optional NTR, give both routes the same amount of content. If one is just a token, come out with it and say that instead of wasting people's time.

The trip will be the non-NTR path for several updates.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Dunno why this still has a loli tag. Those were removed and the whole thing got reworked/rerendered (used to sub then unsubbed after that loli-removal annoucement back in Sept). As far as I'm concerned not restricted = not worth supporting, without lolis that's like paying for free porn.

 

[Republican Bear]

Another game ruined to appeal to other sites or to avoid future legal trouble. Can't say I'm surprised but I'll pass on this game from now on.

 

[BadJM]

The trip will be the non-NTR path for several updates.

Yeah but it will probably take a while until this new version reaches that part. I think the issue most people that don't like NTR have is that there will inevitably be long periods of time that they will get little to no content. Even if it they get several updates of no ntr it just means that at some point there will be several updates focused on the NTR path so it catches up. Obviously no one is forced to play the game but it ends up feeling like one of the fanbases is getting the short end of the stick because the non-ntr fans will most likely never play the NTR path while the NTR fans will probably play both.

 

[coor35rrrt]

you know what, I'm glad I stop supporting this game. It was a waist of time waiting for a half-ass remake. I really have no hope for this game, its sad really.

 

[the_666]

It usually bothers me a lot when they change the loli model, but this one didn't bother me too much. If the game had started like this from the beginning I would think "great, I want to see more", but I'm not going to wait 2 damn years to finally get to the point where the previous version was, it's like, bitch, please...

 

[BadJM]

It usually bothers me a lot when they change the loli model, but this one didn't bother me too much. If the game had started like this from the beginning I would think "great, I want to see more", but I'm not going to wait 2 damn years to finally get to the point where the previous version was, it's like, bitch, please...

Yeah the models are fine, but we were about to finally start getting content between the mc and the daughters and now that is all gone and we will have to wait at least another year.