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Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Family Faring [Episode 6 HF 2] [Royal Games] Archived Version

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Eh, don't think it's that big a deal, from what I saw the younger daughter is just given a more pronounced bust so she doesn't look like she's pre-pubescent, but even then with her overall look I still wouldn't say she's older than 13, and the older daughter still only looks 14, maybe 15. I suppose if you prefer them flat chested that would be a problem, but otherwise I don't think there is much to get upset about, other than it slows down development even further to go back and redo everything... but if the dev is worried about getting arrested, well, can't really blame them for wanting to adjust the character's apparent age upwards a bit (the other option is to abandon the project entirely and delete all their work on it, which appears to have happened with Daddy's Hard Time).

As a note, if he wants them to look older, at least some pubic hair is a good idea.
As weird as it may sound, I think the fact that he barely changed their designs makes it worse because if he was worried about being arrested, these changes don't really help much so it just ends up feeling like he erased all the progress for nothing.
 
Thing is regardless if they change it, they still made the original content, meaning they already broke the law. So they still can get arrested regardless if they change it now... That goes for all the other Devs worried about getting arrested also...

True, although by that logic if you've ever committed a crime you may as well keep on going because you're already going to jail.
The reality isn't quite that simple.

By deleting the old work, it does become more difficult to directly link it to them. Especially years after the fact, whereas if they find the development files on the dev's computer, its pretty open and shut. So that's one factor.
And if they are arrested at a later time they can point to the fact that they discontinued it as changing their ways which can possibly help in court.

Secondly, if no one has come after them for their game yet, it does mean it is less likely someone will come after them for it if they discontinue it. But if they continue, it is running the risk of drawing attention at a later time. That is why you don't necessarily keep committing crimes just because you already committed one crime; maybe you won't get caught for the previous crime(s), but if you continue, you keep on risking getting caught by drawing unwanted attention for new crimes in the future.

As weird as it may sound, I think the fact that he barely changed their designs makes it worse because if he was worried about being arrested, these changes don't really help much so it just ends up feeling like he erased all the progress for nothing.

Eh... as the entire thing is about "looks like they are underage" this does help, by increasing the bust sizes and height of the girls, saying they are possibly 18 becomes more plausible - although as I said, having some pubic hair would probably help there as well. I do agree that resetting the progress is annoying, but well, it's up to them. Could be that maybe they just felt like it as well.

Interestingly Dumb Koala talked about this once, she (I think DK is a she) claims that she doesn't see her characters as under 18. She even had one where the character is based on a real life model, who is over 18, but looks very underage (it happens, there used to be an entire porn mag devoted to it called "Baby Face", 18+ models that could pass for under 18). DK apparently just likes doing lolita characters.

As for "they did it just for the money"... while possible, I am not going to leap to that conclusion. I find that accusation is thrown around a lot - usually by people that aren't donating a single cent - and in most cases you find that the dev isn't really making that much money on the deal. Sure, some people do have a pile of subscribers, and some of them rarely make any updates, but they are the minority. Most of the devs simply aren't making a lot of money on it. Most of these things are passion projects they are doing for their own fun and hoping other people will enjoy, and any money they make is a nice bonus, but they aren't going to be quitting their day job any time soon.
And well, frankly... if he did do it for the money... welcome to capitalism.

I checked the Subscribe Star for this, and he's making respectable money per month, but I doubt he's getting rich off it. What I find interesting is that he wants to hire someone to help him do it, that right there is a reason to upage the characters. By bringing someone else in he risks colliding with their sensibilities, and that they could turn him in - or that he simply will have difficulty finding someone to help do something with characters that appear that young (this was reported as a problem with Insexual Awakening, the hired artist was really uncomfortable with the apparent age of the characters - so for IA2 they went to the crappy Koikatsu models instead, and pushed the apparent ages down to maybe 8, while still claiming they are 18+).
 
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Personally I think it would be really hard to defend in court that lily and angel are 18. These changes in my opinion don't really help much his case if that was in fact the reason why he decided to change the girls. One thing I remember him saying, don't remember if it was on discord or one of these forums was that he wanted to get away from the loli stuff and wanted to be able to reach a wider audience. Again I don't think these changes help much. Forums like cuck95 have both alowed and banned games with similar models, so these changes are basically a toin flip when it comes to getting this game on a forum like that. Also if he wanted to get on a platform like patreon I don't know if he would be able to since patreon doesn't like petite characters.
So yea I just don't understand why he did it. But at the end of the day, it's his game so he can do whatever he wants.
 
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I dont like it at all. Your daughters now look they have gigantism or something. How is your smallest daughter almost as big as you?

If the Dev wants to ruins this Game, great job!

Kinda sad but we really wont get many decent Quality Loli Games because it seems like everyone thinks a Steam-Release will make them rich.
Yeah fuck Steam. I certainly don't use that for porn no more than I use Patreon for it. Hell I'm still on Windows 7 so Steam doesn't work at all anymore anyway (their loss, see no point in upgrading OS just because Microsoft wants me to by stopping support that I never used for 7 anyway, W10 is shittier and a downgrade).
 
it's amazing how one can completely ruin his own game making literally all wrong decision, fuck even Ricoh was more considered and his ass was directly on the line, so at least it's somewhat understandable where he was coming from... but this one? straight to ignore, it's just dead
And even Ricoh ended up changing his de-loli plans anyway for the most part (simply canceled future plans to add lewd orphanage lolis, which still sucks. but better than baiting and switching everyone and keeping their money).
 
Yeah no one here likes that he decided to change the girls.
Also on a side note your profile picture is wild you should probably change that or you risk getting banned.
Dunno why, it's just the fairy from The Awakening (I forget her name). If it was a real porn then yeah.
 
The difference is that the things that are posted here are not real and your profile picture was of a real girl that appeared underage. There is a big difference there.
Reminds me of when Morpheus asks "what constitutes real?" I've seen some Daz renders ran through an AI treatment that could pass for real, if it weren't for bad AI training. Ie lolis giving a dude a BJ, hot at first until you look closer and see he has 2 dickheads on top of each other, probably shouldn't have used pics of girls licking 2-scoop ice cream cones for BJ substitutes in AI training, actual BJ's would have been better, internet probably has billions of those, simply de-aging the 18+'s in the pics would probably be easier.
 
Also on a side note your profile picture is wild you should probably change that or you risk getting banned.
I see nothing wrong with it.
 
I dont like it at all. Your daughters now look they have gigantism or something. How is your smallest daughter almost as big as you?

If the Dev wants to ruins this Game, great job!

Kinda sad but we really wont get many decent Quality Loli Games because it seems like everyone thinks a Steam-Release will make them rich.
Its not to be so they can use steam, its due to the court case that is happening with Westy... Until that is fully resolved all Devs that make loli games are scared...
 
Its not to be so they can use steam, its due to the court case that is happening with Westy... Until that is fully resolved all Devs that make loli games are scared...
More like paranoid. If they don't live in such retarded countries they have 0 reason to be scared. It's takes like 20 minutes to find out if they live in the retarded country list (it's mostly UK/Australia/Canada/most of the EU, many other countires like China, North Korea, Singapore, most Islamic countries, etc where free speech is not a thing and all porn regardless of genre is banned, the rest of the world is fine). It's not like the legal landscape was different before Westy was busted and suddenly different after. Those laws have been on the books since 1995, and people before Westy have gotten jailed for drawing Bart/Lisa Simpson fucking (actual Australia case from 2007-2008), yet no one was worried then or even noticed. A few people take a gamble (or choose to simply not do their legal homework before diving into questionable things at best in places where all entertainemnt is heavily censored or banned like in Aus) and lose, but most get away with it and have always done so before Westy put a spotlight on it. And when I say most it's probably like 90%+ when even in the US barely half of even murder cases end up solved, a huge chunk of the rest literally get away with murder and don't even get an arrest (and in bigger cities like Chicago, LA, NYC, etc it drops to 30% solved rate). But as far as Westy's case will go in a psychopath country like Aus he might as well have developed it in China. Sure, he probably won't get executed with his organs harvested after at least but he will probably be made an example of and get the whole 15 years he's facing, and maybe let out on parole in 5-10 on good behavior given the courts will probably treat him no different than if they rescued all the Proud Father characters from his basement, based on the insane rulings of similar court cases there.
 
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Would you guys think the abandoned/older one is still worth playing for a newcomer, even knowing that it will never continue?
 
Would you guys think the abandoned/older one is still worth playing for a newcomer, even knowing that it will never continue?
If you're really bored and don't have anything else to play then sure. But the story will be basically the same the girls will just look older in the remake. So if you don't mind the spoilers then yea play it.
 
Anyone pls Help, the remake version isn't working on joiplay even with the latest renpy plugins.. What should I do???
 
Anyone pls Help, the remake version isn't working on joiplay even with the latest renpy plugins.. What should I do???
Get a PC. Even a 10yo used potato that's not even equivalent to a modern smart toaster will play prerendered AVNs (though 30 fps 4k animations might be slower than 30 fps). Bar that you are just out of luck, I'm surprised Joiplay works at all, let alone as well as it does with most AVNs. Squeezing something meant for a PC onto a phone is far harder than the reverse with Bluestacks.
 
Would you guys think the abandoned/older one is still worth playing for a newcomer, even knowing that it will never continue?
As an NTR hater/loli lover I'd say no, it's just a tease/blueball simulator for the most part, especially if you were looking forward to fucking your loli daughters. And while the story supposedly doesn't change for the most part these days I honestly don't care much about or have time for vanilla stories with vanilla characters (though at one point during Covid shutdowns when free time was abundant I was keeping up with updates to 200+ of them), and even if I did there are better ones imho.
 
Would you guys think the abandoned/older one is still worth playing for a newcomer, even knowing that it will never continue?
I'd say yes. I have a complete scene breakdown of the previous version earlier in the thread. Unless you only count incest as content, then the vast majority of the content is with the MC. People are just salty that the only Lily hardcore content was NTR. Just look up my earlier post in the thread and decide if that warrants a download in your opinion.

EDIT: Here's my post with the content breakdown.
 
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