Does it feel like there aren't very many "new" games that are good?

[Unnerving3260]

You need time to make a quality product and people finally figured it out.

I guess the pandemic period was the perfect time for experimentation. Lots of people with lots of free time all of a sudden, and sitting too comfortably on the Dunning-Kruger line to understand what they were getting themselves into, meant that a lot of content was made quickly. But then came the realization that they have to keep on doing it, for a long time, with their free time now coming to an end, and so the natural filter took most of them out. Those who survived the filter are now upping the standards with each new game they release. As it should be, more quality, less content for content's sake.

 

[LoopLC]

I think we have a few reasons here why we don't see that many new cool games. CoVid definitely plays a role. It hit the genre during a time where renders became more easily produced. A lot of assets were made, better hardware, more time at hand for devs and players. These were also the days where a lot of people supported their devs because of limited options to spend money otherwise. Most of the mid-2010 stars peaked with their supporter counts, others got on the train. After CoVid, all these benefiting points were reversed. Most people had to invest time and money into their RL again, financial crisis hit many countries, support became less frequent. Which means less incentives for devs to develop. Then we have the ukrainian war, which cut off many russian and ukrainian developers from their markets, mostly because of blocked financial support. And don't forget Patreon, which was (and is) the most important base of income for devs during the 2010's, but it's bigot american morality agenda was pushed hard during the last years, forcing more and more devs out of support or into more vanilla genres due to saving some pixels from getting fucked.

We see a lot of reasons why games may became less frequent, less good, less playable. But although many despise it for a lot of reasons, I think that AI development will bring us at least a silver age of AVN, if not a new golden age. It will take a while to become really usable for porn games, because correct anatomy, reproducable characters and animations play a huge role in these. We already have good single renders, we have AI sounds, AI music, AI voices. All these tool will open up the genre to a broader field of devs, that are technically limited in their ability to produce renders, but may be able to write fantastic stories. And don't forget the vastly increased speed in which AI can produce renders compared to most of todays devs render capacities, which are most of the time the limiting factor for producing more and longer updates. Give it a few years and this gerne will boom, I'm sure!

 

[bos420p]

The problem isn't necessarily new games by themselves. The problem is there a plethora of new games that are left unfinished. Every day there is a half dozen effectively 0.1 games that never complete. A lot of them don't even get an update after the first release or even first 6 months. Plenty of good ideas never completed.

 

[encassion]

I agree with the OP. But I've also noticed that the sex scenes in porn games are short, very little detail, or don't actually show penetration. The sex scenes in PORN games don't put any effort in creating porn scenes. Not to mention, most are unimaginative. It's just quick missionary or doggy style, then move on. Lame.

 

[Jkblack]

Es triste, la realidad es que una gran cantidad de juegos que salen no se actualizan y terminan abandonados.

 

[battlemercy]

Have played too much game,standard for you is much higher than a newbie

 

[Jandu]

Might be just that I'm getting old or something but it seems like a few years ago, you'd check the various sites and almost every week there'd be a new game or an update to a game that was incredible. Like 2-3 games a week being updated that were just really good, really decent stories that had good renders and animations, tolerable writing, etc.

And some of those games are still out there and still being worked on, with updates periodically.
But for the last few months it feels like there's so many games that are following the fetishes/trends that I'm not really into, or that just don't spend any real time on animations/renders, or that just follow the same templates as all the other popular games.
I mean, I like Harem games for example but it seems like almost every Harem game is copying the most popular few harem games and I can't even tell you how many "Dad that's fucking his daughters, wife, sister, nieces, their friends, etc" games that follow almost exactly the same plot.

1. Get seduced by daughter #1.
2. Hide it from wife.
3. Sister comes back into life due to a divorce from her husband.
4. Fuck sister like you always used to.
5. Find out sister's daughter(s) are your kids, fuck them with sister's help.
6. Sister helps you fuck your daughter #2.
7. Wife finds out you're fucking niece, gets mad.
8. Easily talk wife out of her anger with the power of dick.
9. Fuck wife, daughters, sister, nieces, some of their friends.
10. Daughters ask you to impregnate them constantly.
11. Sister talks you into impregnating her daughters.
12. You're a very wealthy businessman who also fucks his assistant.

It's like...this could describe half a dozen games I like. But why?

It's like that "you're a college graduate and your dad just died so you moved home but now you have to fuck your mom and sister, or they lose the house to gangsters!" type of plot.

Why isn't anybody coming up with unique stories anymore? Why are all the games feeling the same?

Is it just me?

I think that a lot of people just play this kind of games and some of those like the idea but don't like the execution. So they are becoming developers and are trying to make the same game that they liked, but better (at least in their opinion).
... Or it may be because of laziness. One of those

 

[Jkblack]

Has jugado demasiado, el estándar para ti es mucho más alto que el de un novato.

Es cierto que después de cierta cantidad, los pequeños errores se vuelven muy repetitivos.

 

[VND]

Or it may be because of laziness. One of those

I bet the most abandonded games with 0.1 are, because of the much work to create a game.
The devs didn´t think of it. Or does not know about it...

 

[JadedSkywalker]

Might be just that I'm getting old or something but it seems like a few years ago, you'd check the various sites and almost every week there'd be a new game or an update to a game that was incredible. Like 2-3 games a week being updated that were just really good, really decent stories that had good renders and animations, tolerable writing, etc.

And some of those games are still out there and still being worked on, with updates periodically.
But for the last few months it feels like there's so many games that are following the fetishes/trends that I'm not really into, or that just don't spend any real time on animations/renders, or that just follow the same templates as all the other popular games.
I mean, I like Harem games for example but it seems like almost every Harem game is copying the most popular few harem games and I can't even tell you how many "Dad that's fucking his daughters, wife, sister, nieces, their friends, etc" games that follow almost exactly the same plot.

1. Get seduced by daughter #1.
2. Hide it from wife.
3. Sister comes back into life due to a divorce from her husband.
4. Fuck sister like you always used to.
5. Find out sister's daughter(s) are your kids, fuck them with sister's help.
6. Sister helps you fuck your daughter #2.
7. Wife finds out you're fucking niece, gets mad.
8. Easily talk wife out of her anger with the power of dick.
9. Fuck wife, daughters, sister, nieces, some of their friends.
10. Daughters ask you to impregnate them constantly.
11. Sister talks you into impregnating her daughters.
12. You're a very wealthy businessman who also fucks his assistant.

It's like...this could describe half a dozen games I like. But why?

It's like that "you're a college graduate and your dad just died so you moved home but now you have to fuck your mom and sister, or they lose the house to gangsters!" type of plot.

Why isn't anybody coming up with unique stories anymore? Why are all the games feeling the same?

Is it just me?

Sounds just like Such a Sharp Pain, i love that game. Super awesome actually.

 

[c201]

I bet the most abandonded games with 0.1 are, because of the much work to create a game.
The devs didn´t think of it. Or does not know about it...

Probably pretty common to invest 10-20 hours making a start of a game, then realizing it's going to be hundreds if not thousands of hours to finish the product, and just giving up

 

[IndigoResponce]

People being stuck inside for covid helped make people wanna make stuff. I guess now that people are back to work they are less likely to make new games

 

[DewisHoHoHo]

It's okay that there's less, as long as the quality is getting better all the time

 

[VND]

It's okay that there's less, as long as the quality is getting better all the time

Yeah. Big if...
But there's hope. There are a few great and quality games out there. And even with constant updates...

 

[battlemercy]

cause it's wip

 

[wryxn]

It´s mainly an issue of Supply and Demand in terms of the Storytelling aspect.

Most VN´s simply serve a fairly simple power fantasy structure, your "MC" is usually a dude with a massiv cock and even if he is unlikeable, for some reason every female in his life stumbles over his anaconda sized weiner and falls in love with him for that reason alone.

Heck, you´ve found something above average in terms of story if the "Author" atleast tried to give the whole thing a more "erotic" touch instead of straight up powerfantasy porn in which you dominate every woman in your life without breaking a sweat.

And if you want to start out creating VN´s etc it might actually even be a good idea to simply start with a storytrope we´ve seen countless times but are still not tired off, simply to learn it the ropes.
Nothing is worse than "simply having a good idea", the idea gets to big, the creator cannot finish it satisfyingly without making it seem like One Piece 2.0, it gets abandoned.

Less is basically more.

Personally, i like games nowadays more if the game itself KNOWS what it wants to be, want to be a hypersexual powerfantasy? great, lean into that, don´t try to make it seem "Deep" in the middle just so you can pretend that it has a "deeper" meaning from an artistic standpoint.

Want to be an erotic story that focuses more on specific details, kinks and relationship dynamics? Do that without making the scenes seem like a cheap thrill.

In short, start Small, try to get one thing, one "Archetype" done properly first.

A Game that in my Opinion achieved a "higher standard" so far would currently be = Pale Carnations

 

[ukalias]

Every time I think I have found a good new game, they end up getting abandoned or have really long time between updates.

 

[herot32]

Sounds just like Such a Sharp Pain, i love that game. Super awesome actually.

And Midlife Crisis. And The Guardian. And a half dozen other games

 

[Xonia]

Might be just that I'm getting old or something but it seems like a few years ago, you'd check the various sites and almost every week there'd be a new game or an update to a game that was incredible. Like 2-3 games a week being updated that were just really good, really decent stories that had good renders and animations, tolerable writing, etc.

And some of those games are still out there and still being worked on, with updates periodically.
But for the last few months it feels like there's so many games that are following the fetishes/trends that I'm not really into, or that just don't spend any real time on animations/renders, or that just follow the same templates as all the other popular games.
I mean, I like Harem games for example but it seems like almost every Harem game is copying the most popular few harem games and I can't even tell you how many "Dad that's fucking his daughters, wife, sister, nieces, their friends, etc" games that follow almost exactly the same plot.

1. Get seduced by daughter #1.
2. Hide it from wife.
3. Sister comes back into life due to a divorce from her husband.
4. Fuck sister like you always used to.
5. Find out sister's daughter(s) are your kids, fuck them with sister's help.
6. Sister helps you fuck your daughter #2.
7. Wife finds out you're fucking niece, gets mad.
8. Easily talk wife out of her anger with the power of dick.
9. Fuck wife, daughters, sister, nieces, some of their friends.
10. Daughters ask you to impregnate them constantly.
11. Sister talks you into impregnating her daughters.
12. You're a very wealthy businessman who also fucks his assistant.

It's like...this could describe half a dozen games I like. But why?

It's like that "you're a college graduate and your dad just died so you moved home but now you have to fuck your mom and sister, or they lose the house to gangsters!" type of plot.

Why isn't anybody coming up with unique stories anymore? Why are all the games feeling the same?

Is it just me?

Play TG or any of the BHU Games. The backstory on them is a whole new genre.. you still fuck your sister but still.. thats a given in an AVN. The whole series of games sets you on multiple paths of your choosing and you can play the game how ever you see fit. Dark, neutral, loving. you can also turn off content if you wish to not see

 

[Yeetbruh]

I think its because avn's have become more popular in the last few years, more games than ever are being put out and abandoned after like 2 or 3 releases and bury any good games. And the more games being made, the less money in the whole supporter ecosystem, less incentive for good dev's to keep making games i think. idrk though im just talking out my ass.