discussion Anti-Social & Lurker - Hideout spot

[sims4grl0]

i just joined here from ATF i use that site mostly for their ATF wicked whims mods for sims four I hope those mods are welcomed here if the creator wants to continue them after ATF closes. it sucks that ppl are asses.

 

[Hupecki]

Well, they are not connected to each other, but usually the forum knows each other.

I usually never know how to nav these forums cause theres just so much stuff on the screen at once lol this is the first one where I actually had to read stuff

 

[Sneylor]

i just joined here from ATF i use that site mostly for their ATF wicked whims mods for sims four I hope those mods are welcomed here if the creator wants to continue them after ATF closes. it sucks that ppl are asses.

The crowd of those fleeing will now all flee to neighboring forums ;D

 

[Twigless Leaf]

The great refugee influx.

 

[ketaminio]

Spoiler: closing down the site

"I'll splinter the ATF into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds".

This is not the first time I've thought about calling it quits.

Hosting a site of size and nature does take a toll on you, even if the challenge on itself has been a major motivator to keep going.

And it's only getting a steeper uphill still.

If the so-called "basics" are covered from technical / hosting side, you have to worry operating within bounds of the law, keeping the bad actors at bay as well as malicious attempts to bring the site down by DDoS, deplatforming, doxing and so on.

With laws and regulations tightening not only on pornography, but what can be done with AI, as well as in general what you can do or say online, and platforms are increasingly held as responsible what any given member does.

The operating costs are getting higher.

For optimal performance the site would need a full 10Gbit/s throughput and I'm falling short from paying for it, having to settle to something like 80% of that. There's fees for co-location, VPS, bandwidth, emails, backup systems, all adding up to easily over 20k/year. Not to mention how much has been spent on hardware.

The server responsible for the forum is running out of space in 6 months. All bays are taken. If the RAID level is dropped, then maybe additional year of time could be gained. Even without the price hikes of RAM and SSDs, I wouldn't be able to afford a new server with even more storage than what it has now (7.68TB x 6 on main array).

I am not looking for additional financial support. If you have an old crypto address from me, don't use that as there's a high chance it doesn't reach me. Those who are currently supporting me via subscription, I would ask if you can stick around for a bit as it really does help to keep the lights on. And sincere gratitude to past donators as well.

The users themself are getting more troublesome.

In the beginning of my reign I was all aboard on the idea of "Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend". The problem is, as your numbers grows, there is less cohesion. There's a lot of people who will take advantage whatever platform you offer them and they will exploit it to their selfish needs without no concern to it or others.

Thankfully I've had a lot of help from our staff, past and present, without them the site would implode within a day. I just wish I could somehow reward you with more than words, or make the users truly appreciate what they are here for, even if they might disagree sometimes on how they govern.

I hope to keep the site operating long enough for people to backup what they deem valuable and migrate elsewhere. I cannot give any spefic date yet. Hopefully people can do organized effort on this, like a specific sub-section. There are other communities like this that can welcome you as long as you respect them in kind.

For the ambitious ones out there wanting to build their own community, I recommend focusing on your core offering, and doing that well. A niche site that is just a platform for stories or another for game creations / mods would do great. Gray topics should have their own community, focusing on help and support. Think carefully what kind of community you want to foster.

For the migration as well as for existing or future site operators, I might be able to offer help or consultation, technical or otherwise.

The site has grown too large for it's own good, I don't personally really care for the influx of some of the newcomers, there is too much relying on just me, I am not going to be around forever. It's better to call it quits when it could still be done gracefully.

Support the existing sites, be it financially or even just with your activity.

Finally, I think it's important to say that I am not doing this under sudden legal pressure or such duress,

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. The site has received maybe 5 subpoenas in total when I've been in charge. None of them were any blanket requests, but reasonable in their justification, focusing on individual users, all of which I have fulfilled. None came with a gag order other than not to disclose while an investigation is underway. If desired, I can make more verbose disclosure on these.

well since that is sadly going down, is there any ATF alternatives?

 

[Sneylor]

The great refugee influx.

There's nothing to be done, you have to go somewhere, of course, it's a pity for the creator of the site, so much bad stuff has been dumped on him lately

 

[Yoriko]

well since that is sadly going down, is there any ATF alternatives?

For games, right here, for booru, Gelbooru.

 

[BrodyPresto]

The great refugee influx.

Build a wall, and make ATF pay for it.

 

[Hupecki]

well since that is sadly going down, is there any ATF alternatives?

Almost every single forum like these could work as an alternative, idk tho I'm just a translator

 

[Sneylor]

I apologize in advance if my writing is a little strange, English is not my first language.

 

[Yoriko]

I apologize in advance if my writing is a little strange, English is not my first language.

Don’t apologize for that. No one is going to judge you for rusty English.

 

[Twigless Leaf]

I apologize in advance if my writing is a little strange, English is not my first language.

Don't worry, I'm @BrodyPresto and @imYuna! laughing stock for my regular typos and word salads.

 

[Hupecki]

I apologize in advance if my writing is a little strange, English is not my first language.

it's okay I can translate what you say

 

[Jack Of Blades]

Almost every single forum like these could work as an alternative, idk tho I'm just a translator

well welcome to LC

 

[Sneylor]

I wonder if I'll be able to farm for Members+ before the site is completely shut down or not?

 

[Hupecki]

well welcome to LC

Hello there O great leader

 

[Twigless Leaf]

I wonder if I'll be able to farm for Members+ before the site is completely shut down or not?

You're already 20% there, buddy.

 

[Jack Of Blades]

Hello there O great leader

eh dont call me no leader, i simply just fix/update the site, this community is ran by the people

 

[Hupecki]

I wonder if I'll be able to farm for Members+ before the site is completely shut down or not?

ATF has a members+ system too???

 

[Sneylor]

You're already 20% there, buddy.

Migration speedrun

Post automatically merged: Feb 23, 2026

ATF has a members+ system too???

There's a simpler site there, I meant here