discussion On Hold VN Ren'Py DAZ Daddy's Angel [v0.8.1b] [Gore Games]

[Nicest_Incest]

is this still in development? I played it before the remaster, I think, and didn't like the writing, but liked most of the other features, so decided to keep it bookmarked and wait and see.

On hold = usually a pit stop to abandoned esp after being in that state for over a year so prob not. They are working on another main AVN I forgot the name of since it's a sandbox.

 

[Puffnstuff]

They are working on another main AVN I forgot the name of since it's a sandbox.

is there a problem with a sandbox in your opinion? just curious, the way you said it. Also, since they are making new games, I assume they have brought on someone who knows how to write dialog?

 

[BgileMunro]

is there a problem with a sandbox in your opinion? just curious, the way you said it. Also, since they are making new games, I assume they have brought on someone who knows how to write dialog?

If I see sandbox I will usually just skip a game. Depends on how it's done, but I prefer just having a story.

 

[Puffnstuff]

If I see sandbox I will usually just skip a game. Depends on how it's done, but I prefer just having a story.

I think I define sandbox games differently maybe? Isn't that the "go anywhere, do anything" concept? Not sure I've ever seen one like that in this genre tbh. Generally in the AAA games market they come with decent stories as well.

 

[Valdonn]

Is this remaster getting animated scenes or are the all static pics?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

is there a problem with a sandbox in your opinion? just curious, the way you said it. Also, since they are making new games, I assume they have brought on someone who knows how to write dialog?

To me sandboxes have their uses:
Kids to play in
Cats to shit in (hopefully after the kids are done, not before)
Builder games at the end where it's potentially never-ending (ie Factorio Space Age)

To me it has 0 place in the middle of a porn story when all I wanna do is insert as the MC, make some choices that guide the plot, and fap to the results, which usually requires only one hand on the mouse when there's no sandbox or other dumb game elements to deal with. Other than a very few loli-incest ones that are kinda old at this point (4+ years) like Apt 69 or Altered Destiny like many others if I see a sandbox tag I now simply just not even download it. If I want to deal with that due to lack of horniness I'll just play an actual sandbox game that tends to be made in Unity or Unreal 5 without the distracting porn like the aforementioned Factorio or Satisfactory.

 

[Puffnstuff]

To me sandboxes have their uses:
Kids to play in
Cats to shit in (hopefully after the kids are done, not before)
Builder games at the end where it's potentially never-ending (ie Factorio Space Age)

To me it has 0 place in the middle of a porn story when all I wanna do is insert as the MC, make some choices that guide the plot, and fap to the results, which usually requires only one hand on the mouse when there's no sandbox or other dumb game elements to deal with. Other than a very few loli-incest ones that are kinda old at this point (4+ years) like Apt 69 or Altered Destiny like many others if I see a sandbox tag I now simply just not even download it. If I want to deal with that due to lack of horniness I'll just play an actual sandbox game that tends to be made in Unity or Unreal 5 without the distracting porn like the aforementioned Factorio or Satisfactory.

okay I'm understanding your logic better now. when I think sandbox I think Bethesda games, Skyrim, Fallout games, etc. and those have a decent story. But they are the original definition of sandbox, "go anywhere, do anything" While I've played some of the games you mentioned, (apt 69, etc) to me those are not sandbox, but maybe they are in the adult gaming industry?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

okay I'm understanding your logic better now. when I think sandbox I think Bethesda games, Skyrim, Fallout games, etc. and those have a decent story. But they are the original definition of sandbox, "go anywhere, do anything" While I've played some of the games you mentioned, (apt 69, etc) to me those are not sandbox, but maybe they are in the adult gaming industry?

Yeah for porn AVNs anything that's not just a story with (ideally plot-altering) choices at most is a sandbox. Things like maps, stat and money grinding, puzzles, point and clicking, minigames, etc are sandbox elements that tend to shock or break immersion. Not only that it makes things harder than necessary just to tell a porn story, both for coders (since Renpy wasn't meant for actual games when Unity is far better for that) and readers even when there's an in-game guide or walkthrough through telling you where to go next when ideally the plot automatically takes you to the next scene. In short having to think too much or repeat shit that could be handled by a series of unique choices/scenes kills my boner (ie simple yes/no's vs some hidden threshold needed of some 0-100 stat just to unlock sex with a particular LI, usually done from repeating the same monotonous scenes over and over the required number of times in the worst sandboxes).

 

[Puffnstuff]

Yeah for porn AVNs anything that's not just a story with (ideally plot-altering) choices at most is a sandbox. Things like maps, stat and money grinding, puzzles, point and clicking, minigames, etc are sandbox elements that tend to shock or break immersion. Not only that it makes things harder than necessary just to tell a porn story, both for coders (since Renpy wasn't meant for actual games when Unity is far better for that) and readers even when there's an in-game guide or walkthrough through telling you where to go next when ideally the plot automatically takes you to the next scene. In short having to think too much or repeat shit that could be handled by a series of unique choices/scenes kills my boner (ie simple yes/no's vs some hidden threshold needed of some 0-100 stat just to unlock sex with a particular LI, usually done from repeating the same monotonous scenes over and over the required number of times in the worst sandboxes).

Tell me how you really feel?

Your points are valid and I've definitely experiences some of the pains you describe, I do like a well done story with choices that matter. But in the end, they rarely do actually matter in these kinds of games. Hell, it's hard to make them matter in some of the best AAA games out there. As in, lots of paths that all lead to the same general ending.