discussion Complete VN Ren'Py VAM Sparkling Duplicity [Complete] [Goosenards]

[Beduin123]

While I do think the dev is pretty talented with the design of the girls and creating very good scenes in VAM, the stories or the way they play out over time aren't convincing.

Well, I think the Dev is very good at writing the characters. I just loved how Blair is written with all her girly charms and tricks. I still haven't played this latest update / conclusion and now even fear to do so.

Unfortunately, a good story in AVNs is a great rarity. There are lots of Devs who can create great renders (Goosenards is one of them). There still quite a bunch who can write good characters (Goosenards is also good at it). But there are very few who can write a good plot. I think I could count these games on the fingers of my two hands. That's the reality we live in.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Well, I think the Dev is very good at writing the characters. I just loved how Blair is written with all her girly charms and tricks. I still haven't played this latest update / conclusion and now even fear to do so.

Unfortunately, a good story in AVNs is a great rarity. There are lots of Devs who can create great renders (Goosenards in one of them). There still quite a bunch who can write good characters (Goosenards is also good at it). But there are very few who can write a good plot. I think I could count these games on the fingers of my two hands. That's the reality we live in.

Yup, and sadly the few good plots (Tales From the Unending Void, Tribulations of a Mage, Nephilim, etc) sadly kiss Patreon's asses so no porn worth paying attention to (the main point of porno stories).

 

[nem33]

First off, I would like to commend the developer for the lovely characters and animation (especially the hair looks really good during movement).
I just have to ask though, why is this in the games+ section? By the story, all the love interests in the game are within a couple weeks of graduating high school. This makes them 18 or at the very least 17 plus 9 months. If the story says they are 18 then there is no problem whatsoever. There are no lolis in the game unless I missed a major branch of the story somehow.
I know the developer has a history of producing content that belongs in games+, and also doing rushed endings. Maybe there were plans for loli content that simply never happened before the game ended.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

First off, I would like to commend the developer for the lovely characters and animation (especially the hair looks really good during movement).
I just have to ask though, why is this in the games+ section? By the story, all the love interests in the game are within a couple weeks of graduating high school. This makes them 18 or at the very least 17 plus 9 months. If the story says they are 18 then there is no problem whatsoever. There are no lolis in the game unless I missed a major branch of the story somehow.
I know the developer has a history of producing content that belongs in games+, and also doing rushed endings. Maybe there were plans for loli content that simply never happened before the game ended.

yeah other than the endings that's prob why it didn't do as well as RC, no lolis. Since it was + I just assumed they were teens (14-17), at least until 0.2 when they were in college waiting to go to college (high schools don't have deans). Other than kissing Patreon or F95 ass dunno why so many devs pretend cartoons are 18 when they have no ID's or birth certificates anyway (and therefore no ages, other than what people imagine them to be, imaginary cartoons = imaginary ages). At least in AWT the niece is 14 (by default, no dumb age setter guessing needed).

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

yeah other than the endings that's prob why it didn't do as well as RC, no lolis. Since it was + I just assumed they were teens (14-17), at least until 0.2 when they were in college waiting to go to college (high schools don't have deans). Other than kissing Patreon or Fuck95 ass dunno why so many devs pretend cartoons are 18 when they have no ID's or birth certificates anyway (and therefore no ages, other than what people imagine them to be, imaginary cartoons = imaginary ages). At least in AWT the niece is 14 (by default, no dumb age setter guessing needed).

Well, it's fairly rare (at least in the United States), but there are high schools with deans (see, for example, this PDF for

You must be registered to see links

). But that doesn't really matter; if you're about to graduate, you're clearly either Doogie Howser or you're not 14. And given the intellect of the MC's son... well, yeah. Frankly, if you're going to create lolis / shotas, the only reason I could see for being on Patreon is that you were there long before they banned that and have a big enough following that the move to Boosty or w/e could do serious damage to your ability to keep making a living from AVNs. Goosenards is clearly a more prolific creator; I just don't know how much moving would affect them or not.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Well, it's fairly rare (at least in the United States), but there are high schools with deans (see, for example, this PDF for

You must be registered to see links

). But that doesn't really matter; if you're about to graduate, you're clearly either Doogie Howser or you're not 14. And given the intellect of the MC's son... well, yeah. Frankly, if you're going to create lolis / shotas, the only reason I could see for being on Patreon is that you were there long before they banned that and have a big enough following that the move to Boosty or w/e could do serious damage to your ability to keep making a living from AVNs. Goosenards is clearly a more prolific creator; I just don't know how much moving would affect them or not.

GN already made a Unifans back when SS went to shit in Dec. A whole bunch of loli fans also left and went there as well so long term it will prob be fine given the measures Unifans took beforehand (not just a crypto option, but their own intermediate currency as well). Other options devs seem to be doing is a crappy vanilla AVN under a different name as the "front" project to subsidize their loli one everyone actually wants with that one advertised here, even though that's 2x the work.

 

[Beduin123]

Finally got time to play this update. WTF? That was just killing the game at its pinnacle. Blair has become one of my favorite teen characters of all time. Such a waste of an opportunity to make a good story.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Finally got time to play this update. WTF? That was just killing the game at its pinnacle. Blair has become one of my favorite teen characters of all time. Such a waste of an opportunity to make a good story.

The characters themselves were cute. I think what the problem comes from is GN comes with a reputation of making loli AVNs (with bad endings) at this point so a lot of people were disappointed and unsubbed when this one didn't have lolis. Of course when you aren't making much from it that kills most motivation they start with usually, hence the 3rd version being a rushed ending. RC was slowly building subs (only thing missing was putting a ginger bush on Kayliegh), but after a year they were getting tired of it so that ending kinda crashed and burned too (just not as bad as this one).

 

[Beduin123]

a lot of people were disappointed and unsubbed when this one didn't have lolis.

I wasn't disappointed initially. I'm perfectly fine with hebes and Blair's character was written and animated with such skill that she seemed almost a real girl. Her facial expressions, her little womanly games and tricks with the MC. I think Goosenards needs to partner with a good storyteller, that would be a killing combination.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I wasn't disappointed initially. I'm perfectly fine with hebes and Blair's character was written and animated with such skill that she seemed almost a real girl. Her facial expressions, her little womanly games and tricks with the MC. I think Goosenards needs to partner with a good storyteller, that would be a killing combination.

Yeah I didn't unsub until 0.2 came and they turned out to be the same 18yos as every other vanilla AVN. For 18yo's there's real porn everywhere, which can sometimes even be in full movies with a decent plot f you look long enough from the usual edited promo clips.

 

[stevetheegg]

I also want young girls to sit on my couch in their underwear

Your couch wears underwear?

 

[fthegovernment]

I still haven't played this, the comments have way more info about the game than playing the game itself.....

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I still haven't played this, the comments have way more info about the game than playing the game itself.....

It's kinda short so there really isn't a need to unless you need some fap material (thank god we can't get STDs through our PC screens depending on who we fap to).

 

[Goosenards]

is the creator autistic? things were mentioned that are unusual for neurotypical people to say

I'm not, but you're not the first person to make that observation.

GN already made a Unifans back when SS went to shit in Dec. A whole bunch of loli fans also left and went there as well so long term it will prob be fine given the measures Unifans took beforehand (not just a crypto option, but their own intermediate currency as well).

Unifans is not immune to white knights either, they recently had a bunch of reports from payment processors and a couple of artists ended up getting their pages banned. Also the engagement of Unifans is abysmal compared to SS, it's nice to have as an emergency backup I suppose, but it's clearly not a competitive alternative as of yet.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Unifans is not immune to white knights either, they recently had a bunch of reports from payment processors and a couple of artists ended up getting their pages banned. Also the engagement of Unifans is abysmal compared to SS, it's nice to have as an emergency backup I suppose, but it's clearly not a competitive alternative as of yet.

So I guess they haven't done the smart thing yet and made a few fake shell companies to handle the credit card transactions. They really should get on that, it worked for Backpage until the gov't basically made a new law specifically meant for them (merchant accounts banned = not a big deal, just make a new company and use that as a front while reapplying for new merchant accounts).

 

[ontach]

I played the first path and was somewhat disappointed, but then I went back and played the other path

Spoiler

(where you turn down the cheerleader)

and I liked that ending a lot better. Loved the renders and the writing for both paths. This is one talented dev.

 

[stumpy007]

LOL Wtf was that ending?! Hahahaha I laughed really hard!

A shame he didnt get to fuck the chubby pizza girl. And would have been really nice if the father could do more corruption with the girls, like making them blow him and not swallow the cum until a few seconds before kissing his son. Maybe fuck Tina while her pussy juices and his precum drip on the sleeping little shit.

All in all, an entertaining little short story.

dude, he banged that pizza girl twice and it was smokin hot, chubby girls so choice!

 

[STasH15]

Finally got time to play this update. WTF? That was just killing the game at its pinnacle. Blair has become one of my favorite teen characters of all time. Such a waste of an opportunity to make a good story.

I supported the dev to get my hands on the final release a little early. Then got punched in the nuts for doing so. I've also played Rational Chaos. Not as much of a gut punch. I'm not looking for devs to change their visions to fit my taste, but I've made a conscious decision. I'll be skipping their games moving forward.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I supported the dev to get my hands on the final release a little early. Then got punched in the nuts for doing so. I've also played Rational Chaos. Not as much of a gut punch. I'm not looking for devs to change their visions to fit my taste, but I've made a conscious decision. I'll be skipping their games moving forward.

Could have just read this thread and saved yourself some buyer's remorse, the ending was already spoiled for those that wanted it. Supposedly AWT will be getting 3 proper endings presumably at least where no one leaves you on their respective paths or dies and the MC keeps his dick (niece, niece + friend, gold digger + loli daughter), and also with just 3 parts but I guess even if so it's too little too late for some.

 

[ontach]

If you go for the cheerleader you get the bad ending. Hot scenes, sure, but bad ending. Save at the point where you have to choose, choose the cheerleader for the scenes, then go back and reject her to get a different girl and a different outcome.