discussion Serious Discussion on Shemales

[WLMS]

I wasn't trolling you, but @MattShizzle, like, a joke, you know? So, it's a non-argument here, since you weren't concerned by it. So, your point ?

 

[wintercoat]

Honestly surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet. It was doomed from the start and we all know it...

 

[WLMS]

@Beduin123 really? That's all you could come up with ?

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How disappointing.

 

[Kernist]

Back on track, I am surprised how evenly split votes are, although this should be only one option vote. I chose it's gay because... it is to be honest. Even futas, you take perfectly nice girl and just attach dick to it, balls optional. I would say if someone is hetero male they do not want to have anything to do with dicks except of their own.

Everyone likes their own things and it's ok, but someone who see girl on a street and think "I wish she had a cock" or see a guy and think (I wish he was shemale) is far from hetero.

 

[Sarya]

So, my real life experience means nothing against your books? I remember a guy said to me: "I know all about women, I watched a lot of porn"

I would say you would be correct 20 years ago. Things change as you said yourself, and change rapidly.



As long,.. Have you seen the birthrate data in the US and EU? Have you seen statistics on genZ dating?



Of course, I told before, you'd prefer to turn the whole world gay. The cis men are a problem for you.



Is 13 years old enough? What about

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? Could she decide or not?
And what about adult blood relatives? They are adults and can consent. Why incest is forbidden? Do you want privileges only for yourself?



Please note, I didn't say anything about the women and I didn't say anything about "too much rights". Don't put your words into my mouth. My position is that LGBT+ are a minority in any society and shall be given due rights as a minority. But they cannot decide for the majority.



After a black President of the US? After legalizing gay marriages? Well, I recon it doesn't matter how much rights you are given, you always want more...

It's a futile argument, the history will decide eventually who is right and who is wrong, I don't want to waste my time any more and also our much respected Mod is becoming nervous about this sensitive topic

I honestly don't care what you do and whom you fuck as long as your way doesn't cross mine.

What is funny is you deny my life experience as a source, but think yours have more value than data, books and scientific research. You dare talk about my supposed privilege after that? You're the one who is massively privileged in today society.

You compare porn to science haha?

You believe it changes because you are blinded by far right propaganda. Reality is media concentration is objectively at an all time high level (that's true for mainstream medias, but also for social medias), there is very few independent medias source left. Many of those big medias groups are owned by rich conservative people, who impose their opinions against press and free speech liberty (how Tweeter is today is a good example of it, every sane people left the place long ago).

Please cite a real world case where LGBT+ people decide for the majority so that i have a good laugh!

Marriage? Well, cishet people have it for thousands years. That's just human rights and equality issue to give it to LGBT+ people too. Giving equality to minorities don't give you less rights, rights are not a cake. But what's you can't stand is to loose your privilege, you want to keep having more power than people of other gender, of other skin color, of other sexual orientation.

Nobody want to make the world gay. In LGBT+, there is also bi people, remember, also some trans and intersex people who are heterosexual. They wouldn't like a world where everyone is gay. We respect every orientation and gender, that's why we choose a rainbow, symbol of diversity, for our flag. That's some cishet people on the contrary who are intolerant and try to make everyone cishet: they are going at it for thousands of years by the way.

Birthrate is going lower not because of LGBT+ people but because unlike in the past women in developed countries can choose to have children or not. In the dystopian context we are in, with climate change, wars, fascists gaining power, in a world that's already overpopulated, many choose to not procreate (it was the same in many crisis in the past, as historical research show it), which is a perfectly rational choice. You seem to care as little about women rights than LGBT+ people rights.

I have no problem with consensual adult incest. In fact, it's legal in my country and in a fair number of others (including a few americans states). But again, you're trolling on a whole different subject to divide attention for your lack of rational arguments in the main one.

Conservatives and bigots are always on the wrong side of history.

 

[SeveredRealms]

I wouldn't actually mind. Not I started this heated round of discussion and this is fucked up topic anyway.

I humbly expressed my opinion and after a month or so some activists came to the thread and started to aggressively push their opinion and attack me.

If you believe this topic is too political or too controversial, you'd better remove the thread.

But please don't push all the blame for this mess on me if my view doesn't suit your political agenda.

Um what I think or my wtf ever political crap is has nothing to do with what's going on in this thread. It is also not just you. Those others... Stop tagging Beduin123 and making him come in here in reply. I don't give a shit what ya all want to talk about as long as its not one person going after another for something they said. On the subject itself I have a trans friend and she is a really nice person. I also have had trans customers over the years. I have no problem with them or what they do behind closed doors. Hell the only problem I had with my trans friend was what to call her... He or she... She laughed when I asked and said call me what ever I want but she normally goes by her name not her gender...

 

[WLMS]

Those others... Stop tagging Beduin123 and making him come in here in reply. I don't give a shit what ya all want to talk about as long as its not one person going after another for something they said.

So we aren't allowed to criticize what someone said ?
I'm asking for clarifications

 

[Beduin123]

That's all you could come up with ?

No, I just don't see a point in discussing anything serious with the likes of you.

 

[Beduin123]

What is funny is you deny my life experience as a source, but think yours have more value than data, books and scientific research.

Oh, come on! You just trying to put everything upside down. It is you who deny my life experience, as in the following quote:

Yeah and pretending because of a few experiences that may not be representative to know everything about sexuality, better than people who are themselves concerned by such issues, better than polls and stats, better than researchers, is really dumb anyway.

Also you constantly refer to your books and your studies which is not the life experience. I can find books and studies which confirm ANY point of view. And honestly, in my opinion, gender studies is not a science. It is an ideology, and I've seen plenty of ideologies in my life to recognize one.

Please cite a real world case where LGBT+ people decide for the majority

Modern Hollywood, for example.

In fact, it's legal in my country and in a fair number of others (including a few americans states).

In which states a brother and sister can marry can you enlighten me. AFAIK even a cross-cousin relations are illegal and punishable by law in many states. And you say you a well informed?

because you are blinded by far right propaganda.

What if it is you who are blinded by far left propaganda?

Conservatives and bigots are always on the wrong side of history.

Tell that to progressive Romans or people of Sodom and Gomorrah (No I'm not a religious person but I couldn't resist to give that example). I know History too well to take your statement seriously.

Anyway, as I said earlier, I don't see the point in this discussion. I allowed someone who dug out my old comment to trigger me, but honestly I don't much care about trans people, shemales or whatever. In the end it will be people with a different set of values who decide if the world lives or dies.

 

[User_61141]

Ok, you guys seems to not understand how the things work, we asked y'all to stop attacking each other, and that's exactly what you are gonna do, one way or another.
you like this thread? you will express your opinions without attack other users, I don't think it's that hard. And don't even try to point a finger and say that we're taking sides, we just want this silly thing to stop.
And please stop bringing Sev here, he doesn't like this and has more important things to do. Next time he probably won't be so nice

TLDR: this whole back and forth thing stops here, we don't wanna see another quote between you four

 

[Helenar]

Idk, if a shemale is pulling the girl look very well I'll take a look at some pics on social media, but nothing more than that. It would require really specific circumstances for me to consider it.

First of all as above the "femininity" would have to be real high, second we'd have to vibe a lot and third it would probably require a lot of slow ramp up to that point.


The never say never type of situation, but quite a firm no.

 

[Kernist]

Um what I think or my wtf ever political crap is has nothing to do with what's going on in this thread. It is also not just you. Those others... Stop tagging Beduin123 and making him come in here in reply. I don't give a shit what ya all want to talk about as long as its not one person going after another for something they said. On the subject itself I have a trans friend and she is a really nice person. I also have had trans customers over the years. I have no problem with them or what they do behind closed doors. Hell the only problem I had with my trans friend was what to call her... He or she... She laughed when I asked and said call me what ever I want but she normally goes by her name not her gender...

That's interesting. My opinion about trans people is harsh to say lightly, but if more of them were like your friend people would be more tolerant. It is tiresome however how if you "misgender" someone all hell break lose and people from certain political leaning consider you worse than Hitler.

 

[MattShizzle]

It IS twattish behavior to misgender someone.

 

[Kernist]

It IS twattish behavior to misgender someone.

I don't think so. Many languages do not have a word like "gender", only "sex", including mine and there are only two. If I see a man wearing a purse and a wig it is still a man, but wait, I don't see them because real trans people are rare like shiny pokemons but in countries like US suddenly a lot of people are "trans" to feel special and to be in protected group. People encourage them, they do some surgeries and later when they gain mental stability they hang themselves because they realize they destroyed their life. I am sorry, but it is harsh truth.

Don't get me wrong, I know there are people born in wrong body, however not even close to how many are claiming to be one. US really fucked over their citizens with identity politics that unfortunately pushed its way into west europe. Message of the day - be respectful, but never to the point where you have to deny your senses.

 

[WLMS]

people from certain political leaning consider you worse than Hitler.

Nice Godwin X exaggeration

(Although if you refer to the "twitter leftist", they are admittedly a bunch of agressive herd-mentality morons.
But the other side isn't much better)

 

[Kernist]

Nice Godwin X exaggeration

I wish it was exaggeration.

 

[WLMS]

I wish it was exaggeration.

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[Kernist]

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Good thing I don't use twitter, and only if these retarded emoticons could be banned that would be great.

 

[MattShizzle]

Twatter was always toxic, but became a cesspool after Space Karen took over.

 

[WLMS]

Good thing I don't use twitter, and only if these retarded emoticons could be banned that would be great.

I like emoticons, personally. A lot of times they help to contextualize the desired tone of your message.
But whatever. Why do you find emotes retarded?

Twatter was always toxic, but became a cesspool after Space Karen took over.

Yeah....
And the nonstop ketamine use makes him even more dumber in real time. It's morbidly fascinating.