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VN KN Ren'Py DAZ Ravenous [Arc 2 Ep.18] [Lament Entertainment]

5.00 star(s) 1 review
First off, I want to say that I have a heap of respect for all devs, creating a game is a ton of work and putting something out there and hearing people criticize something you put a lot of sweat and love into, must be really challenging. As a consumer, especially when pirating, I do not have any right to demand changes, my only choice is to consume the product a creator creates or not. I write this post in the assumption that makaab wants feeedback on how his work so far is perceived, and also to hear other people's opinions.

Having now played the games, I do have to agree with the points of criticism that were already mentioned. I would not actually call the game slow burn, because the romantic and sexual development is not actually at all slow, it's just rare. Most of the screentime is spent on the story and most LIs are only part of the main story for a short time if at all. Together with the high amount of LIs, there is very little time for each LI to have any kind of development in their relationship with MC. To be honest, Erica's scene in Arc 2 felt long overdue (especially with the very problematic time jump), but at the same time it didn't feel like she and MC were much closer emotionally than after day 3. They never had time to talk one on one, they never even really talked about the kidnapping and subsequent liberation, MC's heroism, at least not on-screen. I hoped Arc 2 would really get into the relationships and put the story in the background, but so far it still spends most of the time on the story. Which is such a pity. I mean, makaab should make the game he or she wants to of course, and the story is fine and well staged, but...

Holy shit, batman, those character models and renders, staging etc are S tier!! Really, really fucking good! With good romantic+lewd dialogue and the quality of the renders the game is in the top 1 percent on that front in my book. That is awesome talent, and I just wish it was spent on romantic and lewd scenes instead of on story scenes, in which I frankly have a hundred times less interest. At the current rate it is highly unlikely that even half of the LIs that really interest me will ever get a decent relationship development and scene, it just would take many more years of development. And that's just so, so sad, because the models are varied but all beautiful, your renders are awesome and the character foundations you have laid out are well done and interesting. I would love to hear more about every single one of them.

Last but not least: Katherine is fucking gorgeous. I can't help but stare at every single render with her.

A few concrete suggestions with little work impact (I assume):
  • Arc 2's intro mentioned that the ages probably won't be used in dialogue anyway. Why? I think a lot of people into the genre find age references hot, if they aren't used ALL the time. Or am I wrong?
  • If MC's cock got wet ig, make it shiny, just like you already do for wet pussies. Shouldn't be much work, but has a lot of effect, at least for me.
  • Personally, I would be so happy if MC had a very sudden and very extreme growth spurt very soon. (Sorry, couldn't resist even though I assume MC's size is very much intentional.)
 
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I played Arc 2 for the first time yesterday, and I liked it very much. Not to be negative, but it may not be the best story available across all AVNs or anything, but it is a very entertaining original story and I look forward to where it's going. Sure, there are some weird/poor decisions in the game (e.g. the stuff with the ring, twice), but overall the positives are far outweighing the negatives. The renders are great, models are very good looking, and the updates arrive pretty fast and reliable.

@makaab Keep up the great work you're doing! And I feel like I don't need to say this because I trust you will, but please keep on telling the story you want to tell without giving in to people's suggestions and the like. Cheers!
 
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Having now played the games, I do have to agree with the points of criticism that were already mentioned. I would not actually call the game slow burn, because the romantic and sexual development is not actually at all slow, it's just rare. Most of the screentime is spent on the story and most LIs are only part of the main story for a short time if at all. Together with the high amount of LIs, there is very little time for each LI to have any kind of development in their relationship with MC. To be honest, Erica's scene in Arc 2 felt long overdue (especially with the very problematic time jump), but at the same time it didn't feel like she and MC were much closer emotionally than after day 3. They never had time to talk one on one, they never even really talked about the kidnapping and subsequent liberation, MC's heroism, at least not on-screen. I hoped Arc 2 would really get into the relationships and put the story in the background, but so far it still spends most of the time on the story. Which is such a pity. I mean, makaab should make the game he or she wants to of course, and the story is fine and well staged, but...
I am already considering "quality time" scenes via choices.
Not necessarily sexual content every time, but in an effort to give the mc and individual girls more screen time with each other.

As far as it being focused on the story, yeah. As a whole arc 2 has focused more on relationships. sex, and positioning in the plot for sex/relationships.
Already in 4 updates of arc 2 and there has been (by comparison) more sexual activity than there was in the first half of arc 1.
This being said, episode 4 is a story update.

The story does need to move forward so I can get to the more interesting things that I have planned.
The mc cant just go from girl to girl and have sex all the time. It doesn't feel right to me. I can't just say "fuck it" to any aspect to my project/projects.
I re render 20 renders if I see a shadow that is from a spotlight that shouldn't be there.
There are 3 total arcs planned for this game, and I assure you, every single girl will get some time.

I don't know if anybody has considered this, but even though its an adult porn game, Quite a few of my supporters are here more for the story than they are for the sex (i know, kinda hard to believe). I'm trying to satisfy both camps.

I appreciate your opinions and criticism, much has been thought about in regards to those points of feedback.
I would be a liar if I said that I was going to change all of the issues that people have though.
Filtering personal opinions, and taste is a bit difficult.
In the end, if I changed it to what different people want, I may as well just be making this game for everyone but myself.

Thanks for playing. :)
 
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There are no options
Maybe go back and start arc 2 again.

Either you're blind, or just expect choices and options in every scene.
ITS BROKEN:(
I don't know what this even means.

Maybe you could elaborate so mods don't delete your post because it was reported for being pointless?
 
Quite a few of my supporters are here more for the story than they are for the sex
I DID assume only a small fraction would be more interested in the story. Could you put an estimate (% of users) on that? I'd be curious, partly because I consider doing AVN development myself. PM me if you don't want to share that info publicly.
 
Always enjoy playing through the updates but I find it leaves me always wanting more from the scenes with the loli girls and not necessarily in a good way.
 
That update gets two thumbs down (zero h-scenes)
The lack of sexual progress is starting to feel incredibly contrived
Considering Episode 2 is supposed to be "relationship focused", it sure wasn't this update. It went out of its way to ignore open doors with the girls
 
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That update gets two thumbs down (zero h-scenes)
The lack of sexual progress is starting to feel incredibly contrived
Considering Episode 2 is supposed to be "relationship focused", it sure wasn't this update. It went out of its way to ignore open doors with the girls
oh well.
Im gonna say this again. Im making this the way that I want to.
The 1 single update that has been made out of 5 with no sex scenes and here come the baby-whiners.
Feel free to go and play something else. Better yet, make your own game and get every thing you want.
"My lord", is the best way to put it.
Whine all you want to about the game not going the way you want it to.
I will continue to move forward with it whether you keep playing it or you dont.

"lack of sexual progress" when there are h scenes in every update since the arc has started" way to pay attention.
The game will never be back to back sex. Anybody expecting there to be sex around every corner is best served by going and playing something else.

Yeah. arc 2 has more relationship focus and sex in it in the first 5 updates than the whole of arc 1.

If you want to act like this on this frum, maybe you belong on f95.
I dont know why people think they can bitch and complain so much about what other people are doing with their own shit.
Your sexual perversions and pace for them are your own problem, and up to you to fix. Not a devs.
 
Yeah. arc 2 has more relationship focus and sex in it in the first 5 updates than the whole of arc 1.
I think these kinds of people don't consider anything that isn't PIV or PIA to be sex. I've loved all of Arc 2 so far, and the relationship-building has been very enjoyable to me.

Of particularly enjoyable note for me personally have been:
  • Amber's reconciliation of what her soul felt while separated and how she feels now.
  • Selene and Amber's budding friendship, and how that might influence Selene after the events of late Arc 1, enough so that I'm looking forward to Selene and the MC becoming allies and possibly more. I'm a fucking sucker for a good heel-face turn.
  • Alex's... well, I hate to call it 'corruption', but her slowly and not particularly willingly coming to terms with the MC's activities and her own feelings.
  • Jettica watching the MC and the rest of his harem and her slow realization of what she wants.
  • And, of course, Erica's confidence and assertiveness about what she wants (the MC) and when she wants it (no more waiting). She's just one of the sexiest women in any AVN, IMO.
 
That update gets two thumbs down (zero h-scenes)
The lack of sexual progress is starting to feel incredibly contrived
Considering Episode 2 is supposed to be "relationship focused", it sure wasn't this update. It went out of its way to ignore open doors with the girls
It's supposed to be more focused on the relationships but there is still a story that needs to advance. Obviously we all want sex scenes with the girls but updates like this will be necessary once in a while.
 
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I think these kinds of people don't consider anything that isn't PIV or PIA to be sex. I've loved all of Arc 2 so far, and the relationship-building has been very enjoyable to me.

Of particularly enjoyable note for me personally have been:
  • Amber's reconciliation of what her soul felt while separated and how she feels now.
  • Selene and Amber's budding friendship, and how that might influence Selene after the events of late Arc 1, enough so that I'm looking forward to Selene and the MC becoming allies and possibly more. I'm a fucking sucker for a good heel-face turn.
  • Alex's... well, I hate to call it 'corruption', but her slowly and not particularly willingly coming to terms with the MC's activities and her own feelings.
  • Jettica watching the MC and the rest of his harem and her slow realization of what she wants.
  • And, of course, Erica's confidence and assertiveness about what she wants (the MC) and when she wants it (no more waiting). She's just one of the sexiest women in any AVN, IMO.
Every one of your points hits on exactly what I'm trying to do here. Thank you for putting words to it. I'm so happy that you can see it.
Sometimes I feel like I'm trying too hard for a porn game with these underlying things.
 
That update gets two thumbs down (zero h-scenes)
The lack of sexual progress is starting to feel incredibly contrived
Considering Episode 2 is supposed to be "relationship focused", it sure wasn't this update. It went out of its way to ignore open doors with the girls
"Relationship focused" ≠ "sex focused".
I haven't even played Episode 4 yet and I'm pretty sure I will love it like the whole Arc 1 and every single Episode released in Arc 2 so far. You probably played Arc 1 (not so many sex scenes) and reached this point of the game and complain about ONE episode without sex?
I will never understand why people criticize a game for delivering a good story and beautiful art.

I think these kinds of people don't consider anything that isn't PIV or PIA to be sex. I've loved all of Arc 2 so far, and the relationship-building has been very enjoyable to me.

Of particularly enjoyable note for me personally have been:
  • Amber's reconciliation of what her soul felt while separated and how she feels now.
  • Selene and Amber's budding friendship, and how that might influence Selene after the events of late Arc 1, enough so that I'm looking forward to Selene and the MC becoming allies and possibly more. I'm a fucking sucker for a good heel-face turn.
  • Alex's... well, I hate to call it 'corruption', but her slowly and not particularly willingly coming to terms with the MC's activities and her own feelings.
  • Jettica watching the MC and the rest of his harem and her slow realization of what she wants.
  • And, of course, Erica's confidence and assertiveness about what she wants (the MC) and when she wants it (no more waiting). She's just one of the sexiest women in any AVN, IMO.
This is on point.
I included the topic of Selene in earlier posts. I'd love to have her join MC and the gang and I really wish there will be intimate scenes with her (and I wished to get her pregnant xD).
100% agreeing on the last one - Erica is just perfect. Her looks (the same for Amber) and her character traits are superb.

Keep doing your thing makaab. Your game is a masterpiece and this evening I'll definitely need to take a break from another game just for Episode 4.
 
I think these kinds of people don't consider anything that isn't PIV or PIA to be sex. I've loved all of Arc 2 so far, and the relationship-building has been very enjoyable to me.

Of particularly enjoyable note for me personally have been:
  • Amber's reconciliation of what her soul felt while separated and how she feels now.
  • Selene and Amber's budding friendship, and how that might influence Selene after the events of late Arc 1, enough so that I'm looking forward to Selene and the MC becoming allies and possibly more. I'm a fucking sucker for a good heel-face turn.
  • Alex's... well, I hate to call it 'corruption', but her slowly and not particularly willingly coming to terms with the MC's activities and her own feelings.
  • Jettica watching the MC and the rest of his harem and her slow realization of what she wants.
  • And, of course, Erica's confidence and assertiveness about what she wants (the MC) and when she wants it (no more waiting). She's just one of the sexiest women in any AVN, IMO.
I am really enjoying the stuff with amber and selene. You can even see in this update how selene is starting to care for amber.
 
I am really enjoying the stuff with amber and selene. You can even see in this update how selene is starting to care for amber.

Yes, I also like relationship dynamics between the MC, Alex and Kat. I think these are the most believable and naturally progressing among all the LIs. Despite of lack of sex scenes (or may be exactly because of that :LOL: ), this is one of the best updates in terms of the plot and dialogues. No obvious fuckups.
 
its actually longer than a lot of the others in terms of render count and dialogue.
I really prefer regular small updates to waiting more than a year for a larger one. Then I can chose myself if I want to download and play again now or wait until more content has built up over several updates. I remember waiting for almost two years for the Light of my Life update and when it came out it not only took the story in a direction I didn't really like but it also did not have a scene that had been foreshadowed and that I was expecting so I was very disappointed.
 
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