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i'm sure it was written into the criminal code of many countries long before computer generated images were invented.
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Cartoons were around long before that and they arrested at least one person for a cartoon of Bart and Lisa Simpson fucking (they sell t-shirts with that image in the US...)
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Your comment is the best I have ever read, tying in drawings of murder, torture, animal torture with loli nude content. Anyone with any brain can see that the case against computer-drawn images, in which the person who drew them stated they were all 18 or more years old, is incredibly stupid.
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Over 10 years ago, California passed laws allowing for some (non-violent, non-sexual felony crime) sentences to be served in county jails that were more than a year. The reason given was that prisons do not effectively "rehabilitate" and county jails are better at rehabilitation, and other perks, such as keeping felons nearer to their families. The effect on jails was onerous--with overcrowding the immediate problem, along with feeding and housing them all, and hiring and training more sworn law enforcement staff.
Retired sworn law enforcement, 26.5 years.
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Are they going to arrest people who play games like GTA with murder, auto theft, etc?
As to jail vs prison I've heard a lot say here jail is worse (I used to work in a community corrections center - parole violators went there 90 days instead of back to prison.) The food in county jail is often worse and not enough, there's actually less rehabilitation and less to do (so they're bored much more often), etc. Of course they usually are closer to their families. Overcrowding is pretty severe in both jails AND prisons. The alternatives, too - another unit was housing residents in the basement. The state shut the whole place down because they already owned the land it was on and wanted to do it themselves. Which costs more - yeah, not going to a for profit company, but the employees have to be AFSCME and get paid WAY better than we did, and they won't be able to understaff so much or cut other corners (in other units the lunches given for them to take to work sometimes featured green bologna on moldy bread.)
As to jail vs prison I've heard a lot say here jail is worse (I used to work in a community corrections center - parole violators went there 90 days instead of back to prison.) The food in county jail is often worse and not enough, there's actually less rehabilitation and less to do (so they're bored much more often), etc. Of course they usually are closer to their families. Overcrowding is pretty severe in both jails AND prisons. The alternatives, too - another unit was housing residents in the basement. The state shut the whole place down because they already owned the land it was on and wanted to do it themselves. Which costs more - yeah, not going to a for profit company, but the employees have to be AFSCME and get paid WAY better than we did, and they won't be able to understaff so much or cut other corners (in other units the lunches given for them to take to work sometimes featured green bologna on moldy bread.)
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You are aware of that many, if not all mature rated games are banned in Australia, right? They've got some of the most restrictive laws on the books in regards to violent and otherwise mature rated video games.
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What part of the fact that Australia has its own rules do you fail to understand.
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Texass puts prisoner overflow into tents, I understand. Of course, they're probably proud of their overflow since it shows how "tough on crime" they are there.
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"I hope Aussie prisions are nicer than American ones because the US ones will beat the brakes out of people with any sort of sex crime convictions."
My reply to the above quote by Freshenstein was only about the US prison system, and not the Aussie prison system.
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Damn, Australia sounds as bad as N Korea or Saudi Arabia.
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I think there are a lot of facts about the Aussie prison system, and laws that put people there, that I do not understand.
In the Australian movie-making business, are actors arrested for:
1. having consensual sex in that movie with a young looking actor, even if the age of the actor is known to be 18 or older?
2. assaulting, murdering or torturing another actor in that movie?
If yes to either of these questions, will the movie director and filming crew and/or the movie producers also get arrested? (In the US, these people would be considered "aiding and abetting.")
For the above scenario questions, please replace the word "movie" with "computer-generated visual novel".
Can Australian law-makers tell the difference between a movie and real life?
Can Australian law-makers tell the difference between a human movie actor and a computer-generated actor?
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1 No 2 Yes and there goes their career. Anyone involved with assult homicide or torture goes to prison. Everyone else not involved gets to go home Under Australian law there is NO difference between real or cartoon when it comes to child sex. If you make it you are guilty of making child porn. Japanese hentai and manga are banned in Australia due to the age of the characters in them. What matters is the age of the characters involved, not whether they are real or cartoon. Yes law makers know the difference between real and cartoon, but underage is underage whether real or cartoon
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No, its illegal to sell those games but not illegal to download and play them at home
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Doesn't make them any less dumb. Lol.
They may as well ban all kind of porn if so. Aside from real life, I mean. For example, my friend's game. It's barely a year old. Those characters were created during that time. So, they are barely a year old.
The fact of this matter is... It really does matter if it's real or not. And the fact that the Aussie Government thinks they are heroes just for attacking art because it offend their moral judgement makes them a huge dumbass.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't blame some of the people. I do blame a lot of them for falling for this bullshit. But education matters. THIS matters. And it really is a declaration of war for all Artists and Creators alike.
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Under Australian law its considered child porn not art and no one is going to try change that, due to the fear of being labeled a Rockspider . Personally I would not accuse any Aussie govt of having moral judgement, but thanks for the laugh
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Sure glad I don't live there, as bad as things can be here in the US. As to the one question asked what happens to an actor who assaults, murders or tortures another actor in a movie, I'm pretty sure it was meant if in the movie the one character played by the actor does such to another character played by a different actor within the movie.
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Don't know why you're laughing. I'm having a blast from this.
There are several things that baffles me on these alone.
"its considered child porn not art", sure, that may be under Australian law. But that doesn't make it right, does it?
"and no one is going to try change that, due to fear of being labeled a Rockspider"
...Why is there even a term of "Rockspider"? But aside from that, it just basically tells me everyone's a coward who can't think for themselves and is relying on extremely old style of thinking. Still a bunch of dumbasses as it really does make the authority just walk all over you.
"Personally I would not accuse any Aussie govt of having moral judgement",
Wonderful! A way to keep the target off of your back while the others fight for your freedom! The laws are nothing more than moral judgement. You're all wasting resources and could have protected your community a lot better but chose to stoop this low.
Really don't know why you have this way of thinking as some of my other Australian friends HATE their Government because of this. The world will never be perfect. To enjoy art, to create art of any kind does not make you a ****. It's what you do in real life that counts.
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Thank you for your response, although I see a problem with it. The problem is... what defines a child versus an adult?
According to the creator of PROUD FATHER, every single one of his computer-drawn fictional characters are 18 years or older. He writes this, and you have to acknowledge this, BEFORE you can even start PROUD FATHER.
If a character is not underage, BY DEFINITION, how can the creator be charged with child porn?
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