discussion Complete VN Ren'Py DAZ The Guardian [v1.0.0] [Blackheart Games]

[dripdrop]

My first post on this forum (I think, unless I made one a long time ago) is about your game. I'm not sure how to feel about it. At different times I felt excitement, sadness, arousal, happiness, shame, and confusion. I've read some posts where people have said that they didn't like the story or whatever. I might be one of the few that would have still played it without the porn renders. At least I would have after I got hooked on the story. I don't even know what it was about the story that interested me. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you are inspired by David Lynch. If not David Lynch, it has to be someone inspired by David Lynch, or who inspired Lynch. I'm looking forward to the next chapter.

Definitely check out Secrets of Whispering Pine then and then Personal Assistant Blackheart edition. I love how they all simultaneiously play out at around the same time, filling gaps, overlapping, etc. I missed Blackheart Hotel which should have been the first game to play in the series, but I don't mind doing these two after starting with The Guardian. Even though the plot is a mindfuck, I can tell that playing all of the Blackheart games really smoothes things out.

The only thing I really disliked about The Guardian was the AVN creators as character throwbacks and all of those weird scenes with the plant. Not watering the plant is the better route lol. Also I hated

Spoiler

Batman and Westy

as characters in this. The plot was gripping until both of these things started happening. It leveled out a bit afterwards.

The ending without spoiling it was also bitter sweet and touching in my opinion.

 

[98167539]

Amazing job!!! Cool story. Awesome models, clothes, lingerie & stockings! Loved the renders & animation. Looking forward to more story, sexy groping & animations!

 

[Odin]

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Followed your gut? Lol. You wanted 3 years to see and played the entire game mostly to see if your gut was right? Dude, This is my living, and I do quite well. If it took you 3 years to "think about supporting someone, I wouldnt want your money anyways. I only want people who can stomach a story with consequences, and doesn't want some lovey shit trash you can get on the CW. But thanks for the feedback. I'll make sure to post it in my "I don't give a shit" box.

Edit....
My company is "Blackheart Games." Not Lightheart, head pats and kisses"
Sorry if I sound like an ass, but dude. You tell me you wanted to support me bc of the dark story?
I'M A DARK DEV!!! I don't do happy shit. I write shit that has consequences for YOUR actions. Don't be a dick in the game, and you would have some lighter themes. Sure, the game ending is dark... so is Star Wars E4. THAT'S THE POINT! LIFE ISN'T FUCKING ALWAYS GOOD. So again, go play some trash shit game with fake ass shit story with a fap fest you want. Thanks

Lmao!! holy shit

 

[Mikesdk]

Just a small question since either i missed something or a scene is missing or a bug or something...

When MC takes India to meet Sean writer dude and Savanna calls MC dad, India already knows? and MC says that he told her already?

Theres also a scene just before that, where India is drunk on the bed telling MC she will tell everyone about hes secret if he dosent do shit with her.

I tried going back to check all conversations between india and MC and its just not there? he never told her anything about him being their dad, atleast not in the loving father route?

 

[AlfaBit]

why this game doesn't have a sinner tag?

 

[Nastastic]

why this game doesn't have a sinner tag?

It does. Next to the title. At the very top. In red. Right between the blue "Complete" and the red "VN" tags.

 

[AlfaBit]

It does. Next to the title. At the very top. In red. Right between the blue "Complete" and the red "VN" tags.

it clearly wasn't there when i made that comment.

 

[User_50658]

Can we avoid Lilith's route? She is so damn annoying and ugly ughhh everytime she comes on screen I feel like turning off the game

 

[mayumi]

Can we avoid Lilith's route? She is so damn annoying and ugly ughhh everytime she comes on screen I feel like turning off the game

Well, you can mod the game if you want to remove her...
For my part, if the game was only about her, I wouldn't mind. I Think Seath Black has made a beautiful messed up character in her. I didn't like the game at the beginning but he made me love it because of her... You just don't see how beautiful she is behind this ugly goth face... The face her fucked up life gave her.

 

[Azkosel]

Can we avoid Lilith's route? She is so damn annoying and ugly ughhh everytime she comes on screen I feel like turning off the game

She is an absolutely integral to the continuing TG story. Without Lilith there would be no TG or TLG.

 

[pgm_01]

Can we avoid Lilith's route? She is so damn annoying and ugly ughhh everytime she comes on screen I feel like turning off the game

No, she is a major character required for the plot. However, there is plenty of content that has nothing to do with her on screen, so I would recommend just playing the game. She was not my favorite either (sorry Seath) but there are reasons for why she is the way she is, which are explained as you play the game. It is worth sticking with the game even if you hate Lilith.

 

[User_50658]

Well, you can mod the game if you want to remove her...
For my part, if the game was only about her, I wouldn't mind. I Think Seath Black has made a beautiful messed up character in her. I didn't like the game at the beginning but he made me love it because of her... You just don't see how beautiful she is behind this ugly goth face... The face her fucked up life gave her.

I just don't like the same generic plot of incest obsessed sister who comes to family and start to corrupt every girl/women in the family.. I mean I am the one who wants to do the grooming part and vowing the characters.. I had same problems with many AVNs I have played in past like Parental Love and Proud Father.. And also I have no problem with goth look but her face is just sou damn ugly.. Her teen version looked way better than her adult version.. And I don't give a fuck about her past, Ngl it was very lazy writing and how the dev tries to make the player feel sympathy for her.. Its my opinion man no offense..

 

[User_50658]

She is an absolutely integral to the continuing TG story. Without Lilith there would be no TG or TLG.

That's makes it even worse than...

 

[mayumi]

I just don't like the same generic plot of incest obsessed sister who comes to family and start to corrupt every girl/women in the family.. I mean I am the one who wants to do the grooming part and vowing the characters.. I had same problems with many AVNs I have played in past like Parental Love and Proud Father.. And also I have no problem with goth look but her face is just sou damn ugly.. Her teen version looked way better than her adult version.. And I don't give a fuck about her past, Ngl it was very lazy writing and how the dev tries to make the player feel sympathy for her.. Its my opinion man no offense..

No offense taken pal
I prefer her teen version as well, but it's the same model I think. It's her goth makeup that gives her this ugly frog looking face, especially around the eyes, like they want to quit her head.

 

[sum_faggott]

got a question. i have v0.12, the changelog for the last 2 updates says some renders are redone, girl models redone, previous scenes etc. once i download v1.0.0 do i need to start from scratch? are the girl models redone to make them older like the dev of "mi unica hija" did? also first post here

 

[Azkosel]

got a question. i have v0.12, the changelog for the last 2 updates says some renders are redone, girl models redone, previous scenes etc. once i download v1.0.0 do i need to start from scratch? are the girl models redone to make them older like the dev of "mi unica hija" did? also first post here

v1.0 Final includes all of the redone 12R content. If you have not yet played 12R it is recommended that you start fresh as there is a bit of new content added to the first 6 updates worth of the game. But in theory it is not required, there is a chapter skip available when you try to start a new game.

However the girls were not aged, just had their textures and models cleaned up to look a LOT better.

 

[Karamchad]

I like this one but holy shit the story is a mess. Not only with the back and forth between action, past, present, but also with the insane amount of characters. Clearly a more clean version with less clutter would be far superior. Devs should always focus on quality not quantity

 

[lemaiclema]

I have a question guys. I played dev's other games, too. But I skipped a lot. Can you tell whether 'what Lilith said to India at the end has been revealed' in dev's other games yet. There are so many games and so many side/main storylines to follow. And skipping doesn't help keeping up with everything

 

[Djin]

I like this one but holy shit the story is a mess. Not only with the back and forth between action, past, present, but also with the insane amount of characters. Clearly a more clean version with less clutter would be far superior. Devs should always focus on quality not quantity

I played older versions and in those the part with him talking to a therapist in the future with the whole story being just one big flashback was non existant. It really does detract from the game and makes almost no sense.

 

[User_86861]

I like this one but holy shit the story is a mess. Not only with the back and forth between action, past, present, but also with the insane amount of characters. Clearly a more clean version with less clutter would be far superior. Devs should always focus on quality not quantity

Yeah I have played his other games and that is his biggest problem. He prefers quantity over quality and trying to fit everything into this shared universe that just becomes convoluted. Personally, for every one of his games I had more fun playing the story before the shared universe comes into play. Whenever he tries to shoehorn in the father storyline the game becomes so disjointed. I wish he just made individual games with their own story.