discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Burned [V.03] [Deaufosse]

[Deaufosse]

wait, is this the same universe as malignant? Or same characters in different timelines? Also is ntr avoidable?

Yes, same timeline. No, the NTR is unavoidable, but it's girl/girl and there's entire joke there. You'll see.

I'm not going to argue what does or doesnt constitute NTR. Its a lose lose situation where no one is happy.

All I know is the sister who you have been messing around with, and who openly confessed her feelings to the MC got denied a really fucking good sex scene, then immediately went and had sex with the mc's best friend and it felt really shitty to read/watch happen.

If you want to argue that sex doesnt count if there is no P in the V, well go off I guess but when two girls are scissoring the fuck out of each other thats sex in my book.

Kristy doesn't run off to Sasha. She doesn't even have that idea until it's suggested by Jeff-E, and she's doing it because she desperately wants to be with the MC. Remember, this is Sasha. Kristy knows the girl deals in sexual transactions. At the same time, Kristy loves to be sexualized due to self-esteem issues and general horniness, so she can't help but enjoy the attention.

And it is a supremely shitty move on Sasha's part, but she's lashing out at the future, and the fate she thinks is being forced upon her. MC is ultimately okay with it, because 1. It never happened. 2. Even though it was going to happen, Kristy was consenting. (Backed up by Jeff-E saying, "She left muttering something about cockblocking time-travel bullshit") 3. MC is trying to learn that he doesn't need to constantly protect and fix his sister.

Also, Mia and Kristy screw around all the time off-screen. Kristy says she's Bi, and mentions Mia liking all her stuff when she's looking in the mirror. The two are usually in their underwear when they're together.

And seriously, what's the point of having a sexually aggressive lesbian if she's not gonna do her thing.

 

[Deaufosse]

After a mod review and internal discussion it has been deemed that the NTR tag should be added after the inclusion of a new scene in 0.3.​

Lol. Please, God, tell me this internal discussion revolved around time travel.

I disagree with this, but whatever. Everybody is gonna be fucking everybody in this game.

For real though, can you add "Selfcest" to the tags?

 

[Sharpy]

It wasn't disabled, to my knowledge. Was it at the beginning of chapter 3? That whole section is timed.

I had a save from before chapter 3 started, maybe 3 minutes of gameplay at normal speed. I loaded that and (as I usually do with all games) I tried to roll-back (mouse scroll up) to read up and re-familiarize myself with the story. Realized mouse scroll doesn't work, I clicked left side of screen, then checked preferences, then restarted game, then posted the bug here.

 

[Deaufosse]

I had a save from before chapter 3 started, maybe 3 minutes of gameplay at normal speed. I loaded that and (as I usually do with all games) I tried to roll-back (mouse scroll up) to read up and re-familiarize myself with the story. Realized mouse scroll doesn't work, I clicked left side of screen, then checked preferences, then restarted game, then posted the bug here.

Crazy. I have no idea what caused that or how to fix it. Rollback has always worked for me. In either case, you can always select new game and choose a chapter.

 

[Slashimunster]

This was brilliant!!! I can't wait for the next update...but I'm suspecting that I will have to.

But yeah!! More Mia and Sasha for sure.

Well done, man. Well done!

 

[snideremark]

Certified fever dream. Makes you want to bust out Westy. If this was a call to arms, I'd use the left one to pick up the phone.

 

[Moss]

Yes, same timeline. No, the NTR is unavoidable, but it's girl/girl and there's entire joke there. You'll see.

Kristy doesn't run off to Sasha. She doesn't even have that idea until it's suggested by Jeff-E, and she's doing it because she desperately wants to be with the MC. Remember, this is Sasha. Kristy knows the girl deals in sexual transactions. At the same time, Kristy loves to be sexualized due to self-esteem issues and general horniness, so she can't help but enjoy the attention.

And it is a supremely shitty move on Sasha's part, but she's lashing out at the future, and the fate she thinks is being forced upon her. MC is ultimately okay with it, because 1. It never happened. 2. Even though it was going to happen, Kristy was consenting. (Backed up by Jeff-E saying, "She left muttering something about cockblocking time-travel bullshit") 3. MC is trying to learn that he doesn't need to constantly protect and fix his sister.

Also, Mia and Kristy screw around all the time off-screen. Kristy says she's Bi, and mentions Mia liking all her stuff when she's looking in the mirror. The two are usually in their underwear when they're together.

And seriously, what's the point of having a sexually aggressive lesbian if she's not gonna do her thing.

Makes sense to me. But can we please make the Mia and Kristy scenes onscreen instead of off?

 

[DoobieDoobieDoooo]

This went off the rails. Homages should be brief. A nod. Dev's nodded himself bloody.

 

[User_83869]

This went off the rails. Homages should be brief. A nod. Dev's nodded himself bloody.

And it was bloody glorious.

 

[MicoJive]

Yes, same timeline. No, the NTR is unavoidable, but it's girl/girl and there's entire joke there. You'll see.

Kristy doesn't run off to Sasha. She doesn't even have that idea until it's suggested by Jeff-E, and she's doing it because she desperately wants to be with the MC. Remember, this is Sasha. Kristy knows the girl deals in sexual transactions. At the same time, Kristy loves to be sexualized due to self-esteem issues and general horniness, so she can't help but enjoy the attention.

And it is a supremely shitty move on Sasha's part, but she's lashing out at the future, and the fate she thinks is being forced upon her. MC is ultimately okay with it, because 1. It never happened. 2. Even though it was going to happen, Kristy was consenting. (Backed up by Jeff-E saying, "She left muttering something about cockblocking time-travel bullshit") 3. MC is trying to learn that he doesn't need to constantly protect and fix his sister.

Also, Mia and Kristy screw around all the time off-screen. Kristy says she's Bi, and mentions Mia liking all her stuff when she's looking in the mirror. The two are usually in their underwear when they're together.

And seriously, what's the point of having a sexually aggressive lesbian if she's not gonna do her thing.

Meh trying to loophole some shit about timelines, future or whatever doesnt change what happened. Its still shitty to have her be in love with the MC and just go and fuck someone else. And honestly I hope the MC can just fucking kick Sasha out of his life. He explicitly told her to not mess with his sister, Sasha 4th wall broke said she would do it because NTR is bad, and she still did it anyways.

Like I said before not every game has to be something I enjoy, its just shitty because this game was one I liked until now. This shit isnt wholesome at all, its just a giant fuckfest at this point and not what it seemed like we were getting out of the first two chapters.

Sasha didnt seem like someone who would just fuck over the MC like that and it felt bad to play it.

 

[MicoJive]

He didn't want to NOT lose his virginity to her.
He technically did with the future sister.
He only backed our because he wanted her to be comfortable in her own body fully before he shared that intimate moment.
It's literally in the dialogue when it happened so I don't know how you got that mixed up..

Well its a good thing he tried being a good partner only for her to fuck off and fuck someone else. Lot of good that did

 

[Deaufosse]

Well its a good thing he tried being a good partner only for her to fuck off and fuck someone else. Lot of good that did

Meh trying to loophole some shit about timelines, future or whatever doesnt change what happened. Its still shitty to have her be in love with the MC and just go and fuck someone else. And honestly I hope the MC can just fucking kick Sasha out of his life. He explicitly told her to not mess with his sister, Sasha 4th wall broke said she would do it because NTR is bad, and she still did it anyways.

Like I said before not every game has to be something I enjoy, its just shitty because this game was one I liked until now. This shit isnt wholesome at all, its just a giant fuckfest at this point and not what it seemed like we were getting out of the first two chapters.

Sasha didnt seem like someone who would just fuck over the MC like that and it felt bad to play it.

Dude.... who hurt you?

 

[Slashimunster]

Dude.... who hurt you?

I'm guessing it was an unrequited first love...

 

[AlfaBit]

What's going on here, first they added the ntr tag saying the staff has decided to do so but now it's removed, what happened?

 

[AlfaBit]

After a mod review and internal discussion it has been deemed that the NTR tag should be added after the inclusion of a new scene in 0.3.​

As the NTR goes..
Ehh..me personally i didnt see it like that..
i dont like NTR as much as the next person
as far as the sex goes... all they did was terrible terrible grinding..not even scissoring so its not even sex, no penetration, still a virgin in that aspect.
if you REALLY want to get into it, she lost it when his friends sister fucked her in the beginning
And even the ntr wasnt that true, it was meant to show a time line fuck up as, if you played it fully, youd see that it reversed it because FUCK NTR. It fucked the timeline and in order to fix it, it had to NOT happen.

If it was meant to be sexual than its ntr no matter how low lying it was, its ntr as long as it's without MC's consent.

 

[Deaufosse]

It’s ntr as long as it's without MC's consent.

You know what? Sasha is officially the Main Character of V.3. She has the most lines in the chapter, she saves the day and also fucks that day up. Hell, she gives off nothing but Main character vibes.

There. It’s no longer NTR.

 

[Toma666]

He only backed our because he wanted her to be comfortable in her own body fully before he shared that intimate moment.
It's literally in the dialogue when it happened so I don't know how you got that mixed up..

Why the Dark path choice at the last shower scene then ? i was promised rape/Dark MC along with Necro & others stuff...

The game itself is good, well writed (even if hard to follow time to time), good graphic.
But Choice don't matter & are way too scarce... too much forced kink/scenes
The MC is too much inconsistant, i understand we can get some blue balls at the start of a game but having a MC who back-off like a bipolar is just a game's killer, even more when you are allowed to make a CRITICAL choice who can completly change the gameplay & the MC mentality...

I havily dislike Dev who add useless choices or just add empty choices just to add a button where the player can clic from time to time
I also dislike Dev who add the choice to not play/look Gay/Futa scene but force you to see the scene anyway right after the choice

 

[Toma666]

You know what? Sasha is officially the Main Character of V.3. She has the most lines in the chapter, she saves the day and also fucks that day up. Hell, she gives off nothing but Main character vibes.

There. It’s no longer NTR.

Let it go, it's a lost battle.

1st: there is no "Multi-protagonists" Tag (neither as Female protagonist)

2nd: Hard anti-NTR will retorts that the MC is defined at the start of the game not in V.0.3 or in V.0.9, or have you rewrited the game's intro bewteen the V.0.1 & the V.0.3 ? Sasha was never pointed as MC or 2ndary protagonist, in the head of most Sasha is just a LI.

 

[Toma666]

A side note, the 1st Gun holded by the Future Robotic MC isn't a shotgun, it's a Winchester rifle.

 

[Augustus]

Not a single character here shows any interest in exclusive sexual relationships. Alex' demand that Sasha doesn't fuck Christy is because he correctly believes Sasha to prey on young girls, and incorrectly believes that Christy wouldn't be the one to come onto Sasha. There is no meaningful way in which Sasha and Christy having sex constitutes a betrayal of Alex.