discussion With unlimited ressources - Which H game would you create

[ForgeMaster]

The genre that I am most passionate about: a metroidvania. There aren't many metroidvanias in the eroge scene, let alone many of high quality.

I already have a premise for a metroidvania that isn't an eroge, but with unlimited resources I would surely make a huge game that can be played purely for porn or directly without it, or any point in between, it will depend on the player.

I love pixel art, so it would be very high quality pixel art.

Side missions almost at the level of a sandbox and two complete maps of Earth and Hell. The group of protagonists will be able to move freely between both.

Depth in character development within the main group and the MC's relationship with the rest of the team, based on breaks around a campfire between missions.

Different relationships and endings develop depending on the choices you make. You can romance one of the protagonists or simply abuse the rest of your team, treating them like mere tools. You can end up as a just ruler or a cruel tyrant.

The only thing I'm not entirely clear on yet is how I would implement the NSFW factor. I suppose that freedom of choice also implies having a harem and raping every woman (or man, since one of the protagonists is a succubus) you come across. Furthermore, the MC is a sadist who owns his own dungeon in which to imprison those who oppose him. So that leads to different kinds of interactions with a diverse range of characters. You will be able to choose whether you are pious and benevolent or a damned sicko.

In combat, it would have the party mechanics of Fortune Summoners, something I've never seen in a Metroidvania. For those who don't know, the player can control one of the three available characters (four in this case), and the other two are controlled by the AI.

The main characters are: an exiled demon. A spider with metamorphosis powers: it changes its abilities depending on the spider species it chooses, and can change its size at will, being small like a common spider or giant like a tree. A "sorceress" who can materialize her powers in various ways. A knight king of a lost civilization. And a succubus who has no sexual experience.

This dysfunctional group will travel between earth and hell without a common goal, each with their own objective or reason.

There's more, but that's the general idea: a very complete metroidvania. Where the experience is based on the player's decisions.

 

[Don Tebjos]

I agree with you that it would be super cool, but: when I say "something out of a cyberpunk fantasy" I'm not saying I would try and create a game like Cyberpunk 2077, I'm referring to the OG cyberpunk setting, where people would just be able to...feel what's on the other side, so to speak. Get lost in the fantasy. I think in the game Cyberpunk it was called "braindance". What I mean is I'd invest in a VR experience as realistic and interactive as possible, as much as you can do that with today's technology; the setting and the story is not necessarily the point.

Imagine having the possibility to create an environment, or characters, or items, that you can almost touch, almost feel; imagine having an engine or a platform that gives people the possibility to do that, much akin to what devs today do with something like Ren'py, in a facilitated way, with advanced creation tools. If I had unlimited funds (which something like this would definitely require), that's one of the things I would definitely like to experiment with.

Yea would surely need some transhumanist technology at that point. Not sure GTA6 budet will be enough, but let's add top tier scientists from the future to the available ressources.

It's worth it.

Cancer cure can wait

 

[Schizo169]

Yea would surely need some transhumanist technology at that point. Not sure GTA6 budet will be enough, but let's add top tier scientists from the future to the available ressources.

It's worth it.

Cancer cure can wait

Ahah you have a point! I did specify "with today's technology" though Let's just call it a first step?

 

[Don Tebjos]

The genre that I am most passionate about: a metroidvania. There aren't many metroidvanias in the eroge scene, let alone many of high quality.

I already have a premise for a metroidvania that isn't an eroge, but with unlimited resources I would surely make a huge game that can be played purely for porn or directly without it, or any point in between, it will depend on the player.

I love pixel art, so it would be very high quality pixel art.

Side missions almost at the level of a sandbox and two complete maps of Earth and Hell. The group of protagonists will be able to move freely between both.

Depth in character development within the main group and the MC's relationship with the rest of the team, based on breaks around a campfire between missions.

Different relationships and endings develop depending on the choices you make. You can romance one of the protagonists or simply abuse the rest of your team, treating them like mere tools. You can end up as a just ruler or a cruel tyrant.

The only thing I'm not entirely clear on yet is how I would implement the NSFW factor. I suppose that freedom of choice also implies having a harem and raping every woman (or man, since one of the protagonists is a succubus) you come across. Furthermore, the MC is a sadist who owns his own dungeon in which to imprison those who oppose him. So that leads to different kinds of interactions with a diverse range of characters. You will be able to choose whether you are pious and benevolent or a damned sicko.

In combat, it would have the party mechanics of Fortune Summoners, something I've never seen in a Metroidvania. For those who don't know, the player can control one of the three available characters (four in this case), and the other two are controlled by the AI.

The main characters are: an exiled demon. A spider with metamorphosis powers: it changes its abilities depending on the spider species it chooses, and can change its size at will, being small like a common spider or giant like a tree. A "sorceress" who can materialize her powers in various ways. A knight king of a lost civilization. And a succubus who has no sexual experience.

This dysfunctional group will travel between earth and hell without a common goal, each with their own objective or reason.

There's more, but that's the general idea: a very complete metroidvania. Where the experience is based on the player's decisions.

Well it looks like a long thought idea but I must admit I struggle a bit to imagine what it would look like lol

Last words make me think about deus ex though. Would be a metroidvania - immersive sim?
And can we control the changing size spider (and lewd the harem ofc)

 

[Don Tebjos]

Ahah you have a point! I did specify "with today's technology" though Let's just call it a first step?

Heh technically if we take into account the hidden top secret army stuff, and make it available, i think it's doable.

Otherwise, I would say wait from 5 to 20 years and you're good to go

 

[Schizo169]

Heh technically if we take into account the hidden top secret army stuff, and make it available, i think it's doable.

Otherwise, I would say wait from 5 to 20 years and you're good to go

So basically the average developing time of a GTA chapter? Sure I can wait XD

 

[ForgeMaster]

Well it looks like a long thought idea but I must admit I struggle a bit to imagine what it would look like lol

Last words make me think about deus ex though. Would be a metroidvania - immersive sim?
And can we control the changing size spider (and lewd the harem ofc)

I don't know if it will be as deep as an immersive sim, but interpersonal relationships will be part of the game mechanics.
And the spider fulfills the role of pet in the group; its abilities will be used indirectly, giving them orders.

 

[skybreaker1780]

GTA 6 but with raping and creampies

 

[Don Tebjos]

GTA 6 but with raping and creampies

I sense very controversial mods coming lol

 

[Itsme]

I would also create a 3D sandbox in a "Real World" or fantasy setting. It would be a mix of GTA (world) and Illusion's games (character creation, clothing, items...). You can create a char of your choice you play with (MC) and there's also an option to create the story chars and NPCs. If you aren't into creation, random chars will be generated or you can import chars made by others. In the game, you can do whatever you like. But you need to sleep and eat. Money is also needed, but there will be many options to earn it: homeoffice / work from home (costs just time and skills let you earn more), trading (buy/sell stuff or stock market) or different jobs. A message board gives you job offers, story lines and "instant action" for money, for those who want not wait. There will be no force to play a story line. These are completely optional. But they will give you new options, like access to specific fetishes (BDSM scene), good payed jobs, interesting characters and places. A story editor will give you the tool to create own stories and play the stories created by others. The characters you can interact with recognize your favors: you tell a char that the cat ear accessoire is cute? He / she will wear it more often.... I could write so much more, but I think, you got the idea

 

[Don Tebjos]

I would also create a 3D sandbox in a "Real World" or fantasy setting. It would be a mix of GTA (world) and Illusion's games (character creation, clothing, items...). You can create a char of your choice you play with (MC) and there's also an option to create the story chars and NPCs. If you aren't into creation, random chars will be generated or you can import chars made by others. In the game, you can do whatever you like. But you need to sleep and eat. Money is also needed, but there will be many options to earn it: homeoffice / work from home (costs just time and skills let you earn more), trading (buy/sell stuff or stock market) or different jobs. A message board gives you job offers, story lines and "instant action" for money, for those who want not wait. There will be no force to play a story line. These are completely optional. But they will give you new options, like access to specific fetishes (BDSM scene), good payed jobs, interesting characters and places. A story editor will give you the tool to create own stories and play the stories created by others. The characters you can interact with recognize your favors: you tell a char that the cat ear accessoire is cute? He / she will wear it more often.... I could write so much more, but I think, you got the idea

Yes, open world koikatsu/ summer scramble would be nuts ^^

Anyway I see many interesting ideas in all the posts, but in the end, from a lewd perspective, only a good sex gameplay would make me stay/ come back

Sex gameplay and the seduction interactions that lead to it. It seems hard however to find a good balance between the grind and payoff, as often, in my experience, one or the other is lacking

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Another game idea!

Would be a sleep creeping corruption game where you are some kind of ethereal incubus, so you go to different girls, each with their own lives and stories, to corrupt them while lewding them in their sleep

MC as an ethereal being would make sense as you often have opacity used in h games to be able to see what's happening

The supranatural theme would be a nice justification for the grind and some unrealistic but still hot porn trope shortcuts

And ofc once again, enticing gameplay that makes you want to play endless mode, with modders adding other girls and stories

 

[cf2721393]

Open-world sandbox, where anyone can easily create their own content. It leans more towards a metaverse, without any censorship or restrictions.

 

[AdZemX]

Hmm... Conditions are too good and too much of creative freedom - hard to come up with some particular idea. But from what I've read here - no one suggested something Sims-like (life simulator). I think @Itsme is quite close in some ideas, but I want to have a bit more control over game's world. The only thing is - I'm not really into realistic style in such games, so let's try something like this:
1) Since I'm not really into realistic stuff, I want to imagine something in anime style. Sims are too cartoonish, Inzoi has Asian "realistic" style. And for anime I can't remember such games.
2) We'll take Sims 3 (maybe? I remember what Sims 4 looked like after release , I think they corrected some things in next years, but now I'm not sure how to properly compare them). Add something like Inzoi's direct control (so we could implement some GTA ideas here).
3) Modding-friendly - ability to create items, body/clothing parts and even scenarios. So modders could create different scenarios (If you have smth like your favorite anime/manga - you'll have the ability to recreate it here. Not just in characters).
4) Customization - I think level of Illusion/ILLGAMES is quite good for this idea.
5) Lewd stuff - even with WW, Sims game is a bit bland in this part (Maybe it's only me, idk). So - I think there should be something like a "scene control mode" (which could look like a scene mode from the same Illusion. It will give you the opportunity to directly control what kind of things people doing there).
6) Main thing - despite it's certainly an H Game, we definitely (right?) don't want to have another Room Girl, so game should have enough other gameplay things, not just lewd stuff.
I'm not sure how much details I should write here. But that's the core idea. Do you want some vanilla stuff? You can have it. Some darker themes? It should be possible (maybe not without mods, but still). Some absurd situations like "I made her cum dozens of times during sleep and she didn't wake up"? Still possible. Or you can just create your MC, disable every simulator limitation (needs, money) and just go and explore "hidden depths" of other characters . I'm not sure if something like this is needed, but that's what I could imagine.

 

[AlBetGam]

I might commit a little light theft and make a version of Masters of Raana in full 3D. Include the whole continent, no limits on where you go/what you do aside from whether you can afford to get there and survive trying. Less the Skyrim of H-games, more the New Vegas. And minus the age/relation interaction restrictions...

 

[bobby3183]

gangsters: organised crime remake, but better.


other then that though.
im not a fan of making games look realistic. i guess i dont mind it but it doesnt impress me. so it would be more inline of like old cod, but be a open world rpg.
but i would allow people to make things in game. like if you wanted a house or weapon then you would have to make it or buy it from another player, so make it a player economic type.

honestly though the problem would not be the game but the players, as i would not expect them to fully commit to a game. look at games like rust, that is a second job(or even a main job) to people, but they know that at the end of the week or month its all done so they dont have to worry about stuff. if it was a more permanent game then people would. in my personal opinion, not want to commit to a open world rpg pvp player-economy game. as it would most likely be multiplayer.

to be honest just think dnd but video game, not like baulders gate, more realistic, as in it wont have dnd type mechanics.

 

[MrSunDragon]

A game where you play as a succubus who gets stronger for the more sinful sex you do. The more sin points you get the more abilities you unlock such as mind control, mind reading, shape shifting, cosmic lust and more.

 

[muschi26]

A game where you play as a succubus who gets stronger for the more sinful sex you do. The more sin points you get the more abilities you unlock such as mind control, mind reading, shape shifting, cosmic lust and more.

Isn't there a Skyrim mod that's exactly this?

 

[MrSunDragon]

Isn't there a Skyrim mod that's exactly this?

I have no clue to be honest. I rarely play with mods

 

[Szitsur3n]

Pixel-art, open-world, survival, I would focus more on simplicity and immersion rather than reading lore for an hour and unnecessary hour-long grinding.
Sex scenes without switching to a new scene, which ruins immersion.
Creating a relatively cohesive world, different possibilities/paths, building good relationships with NPCs or total slavery and full control, some theoretical ending that changes depending on the actions you took during your gameplay.
Expanding your own base, which would actually be crucial for survival. I feel like I'm just describing a regular survival game, I just feel there's a huge lack of these kinds of games in the NSFW field.

 

[Daarin]

Skyrim but with all the dating sim elements and sex with pregnancy built in, and cozy family life shit too. Also with incest possible because why not.