discussion Complete VN Ren'Py VAM Uncanny [v1.0] [Goosenards]

[lolcow30]

Maybe Goosenards should write the ending first and then write the rest of the game after. Everyone has told him/her that the endings are the weakest part of their games yet it seems there is no improvement on that front. There's multiple endings on this one yet they're all bad / joke endings, the good ending feels rushed as usual. Focus on a great ending first.

 

[MattShizzle]

Maybe Goosenards should write the ending first and then write the rest of the game after. Everyone has told him/her that the endings are the weakest part of their games yet it seems there is no improvement on that front. There's multiple endings on this one yet they're all bad / joke endings, the good ending feels rushed as usual. Focus on a great ending first.

Or plan the whole thing before starting any sort of coding...

 

[AVa7]

I think its funny that people seem to cry about the same shit in every goosenards game threads.
Great beginning, great models, great animations, shit and rushed ending, etcetc blabla.

But still seem to be playing all of his games anyway......games that he still releases for FREE after a while. I wonder what kind of stuff you guys would cry about when he would stop
releasing them at all or if he would just quit....bet you guys would find something else to whine about.

People dont seem to realize that he at least is one of the few loli devs left that does games, completes them AND releases them for free. If you hate his endings so much
just stop playing his games OR pay him and complain directly to him.

All i read all the time is that the endings suck. Well, how about you guys actually do some constructive critic and tell all of us what he could do better?

OR, how about you make your own game, so we can tell you how shit it is?

Just my 2 cents

"Heh, you like this artist but he has one glaring issue with all his games that he should work on? Well what if he stopped making games forever? Heh, checkmate, critics."

 

[Lostandquiet73]

I think its funny that people seem to cry about the same shit in every goosenards game threads.
Great beginning, great models, great animations, shit and rushed ending, etcetc blabla.

But still seem to be playing all of his games anyway......games that he still releases for FREE after a while. I wonder what kind of stuff you guys would cry about when he would stop
releasing them at all or if he would just quit....bet you guys would find something else to whine about.

People dont seem to realize that he at least is one of the few loli devs left that does games, completes them AND releases them for free. If you hate his endings so much
just stop playing his games OR pay him and complain directly to him.

All i read all the time is that the endings suck. Well, how about you guys actually do some constructive critic and tell all of us what he could do better?

OR, how about you make your own game, so we can tell you how shit it is?

Just my 2 cents

I mean, everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you think someone does not deserve any sort of comments or criticism about their work because they are one of the few out there doing the Lord's work then that's outright sad. What's the point of making something if you aren't willing to hear others and improve? If you are making games for yourself with no interest on what the world has to say, you may as well not publish anything at all (this is not a statement about Goosenards, but about the mentality that this commenter is defending).
And this does not apply to devs for AVNs only. It applies to any kind of artist. And to academics. And to anyone who is just doing anything and could do better. Sure, shitting on Goosenards may not be the best strategy but there is an issue. A consistent one at that. There is nothing wrong on admitting that we need to work on stuff. We all do.
In any case, maybe Goosenards can actually make good endings, but for all we know he is just rushing them to keep a consistent rate of updates for his subscribers.

 

[Malakai]

"Heh, you like this artist but he has one glaring issue with all his games that he should work on? Well what if he stopped making games forever? Heh, checkmate, critics."

You either didnt fully read my post or didnt understand it.
Criticizing is fine. But instead of making also suggestions how to make it better, all people do is saying " EnDiNg Is ShIt !!!1!1!eleven! "
Thats not helpful for anyone. It might even be demoralizing for the dev. But hey, you do you. Want to misinterpret my post? Go on.

This time Goose even made 3 different endings and people are STILL complaining about everything.

I mean, everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you think someone does not deserve any sort of comments or criticism about their work because they are one of the few out there doing the Lord's work then that's outright sad. What's the point of making something if you aren't willing to hear others and improve? If you are making games for yourself with no interest on what the world has to say, you may as well not publish anything at all (this is not a statement about Goosenards, but about the mentality that this commenter is defending).
And this does not apply to devs for AVNs only. It applies to any kind of artist. And to academics. And to anyone who is just doing anything and could do better. Sure, shitting on Goosenards may not be the best strategy but there is an issue. A consistent one at that. There is nothing wrong on admitting that we need to work on stuff. We all do.
In any case, maybe Goosenards can actually make good endings, but for all we know he is just rushing them to keep a consistent rate of updates for his subscribers.

Well, read the stuff above. Iam kinda sick and tired to repeat myself over and over again because people WANT to misinterpret my posts.
Why wont people make proper suggestions? Why dont they tell goose what kind of ending they would like to see before the ending actually happens, because
its obvious that the game will be ending soon by the version number. Maybe he will be even listening?
But iam pretty sure it doesnt matter what ending he will do, people will always cry and whine anyway.

Goose is the only loli dev left thats still active and interacts with this forum btw.

 

[RushdiaAhmad74]

is that it ? what a let down..

 

[MRAnon86]

I absolutely loved this game as the animations, graphics, and most of the storyline were extremely well done (the cow portions felt like a fever dream). I have only gotten 2 of the endings so far and I love the LOVE ending and was kind of like WTF?! with the cow ending as it felt very out of left field but at least tied in with the rest of the weird cow ARC. Since I haven't seen all of the endings yet, I can't fully comment on them as a whole but I do hope that the other two do bring some tie-ins and closure to the other supporting characters throughout the game.

 

[Lostandquiet73]

You either didnt fully read my post or didnt understand it.
Criticizing is fine. But instead of making also suggestions how to make it better, all people do is saying " EnDiNg Is ShIt !!!1!1!eleven! "
Thats not helpful for anyone. It might even be demoralizing for the dev. But hey, you do you. Want to misinterpret my post? Go on.

This time Goose even made 3 different endings and people are STILL complaining about everything.


Well, read the stuff above. Iam kinda sick and tired to repeat myself over and over again because people WANT to misinterpret my posts.
Why wont people make proper suggestions? Why dont they tell goose what kind of ending they would like to see before the ending actually happens, because
its obvious that the game will be ending soon by the version number. Maybe he will be even listening?
But iam pretty sure it doesnt matter what ending he will do, people will always cry and whine anyway.

Goose is the only loli dev left thats still active and interacts with this forum btw.

We shouldn't have to tell Goosenards what kinds of endings we want. Any ending can be good as long as it is executed properly. And people don't simply whine and cry. It has been consistently said how rushed things feel and how endings don't feel earned. You are just ignoring what the people are discussing and constructing it as "whining" in your head.

For instance:

I'm glad that it got completed but it's such a disappointing, bland, and sudden ending. And the alternatives are pretty boring too, if you can bother replaying the whole game to achieve them. If an anvil landed on the protagonist it would be about as unearned and sudden, but at least interesting.

Having the characters just shrug off every possible obstacle and fuck off to go live in the woods is... as lazy as it gets. So stupid.

Yeah mind you, I've rated their other works 5/5 and supported goosenards for years. It's not like I'm a hater. It's just that when I see a half decent story suddenly kill itself and burn all its potential (by cutting off every plot point and devolving into a series of animations) I'm GONNA be harsh and criticize that, because I feel like my investment in the character journey wasn't honored.

Artists deserve honesty, and when the audience feels ripped off we should be vocal about it.

The final update was really, really awful. So bad I've unsubbed cause I feel straight up ripped off. I know it's a thing with goosenards that their endings are always rushed but they've hit a new low this time. All story and narrative and character gets abandoned and the characters just say "let's fuck" and it's a string of animations with barely any dialogue or dirty talk... then a cut to black. Couldn't be any more lazy.

It's a shame that goosenards' nice renders and animations are wasted on these completely non-committal stories that go absolutely nowhere. I thought since goosenards spent so much time and dialogue on these two characters that we would get some kind of emotional catharsis, some feeling of resolution, even an unexpected dark ending or something messy, complex, or at least sexy, but nope.... just nothing. Fucking pathetic.

AVa7 commented that obstacles are just shrugged off. There was great potential for one crisis and climax with the lady sergeant after that awesome cliffhanger. Instead, she was just outright taken out of the equation at the beginning of the following update. That was a missed opportunity that could have led to some interesting storytelling.

Great to see a completed game, enjoyed it and looked forward to endings the whole way through development.

As far as my opinions on the endings in case anyone wants to discuss their experience (don't click unless you want to be spoiled or have played the endings. Respond with spoiler tags):

Spoiler: Ending discussion

Love Ending: I liked it, but didn't love it as much as I had hoped... Would have been great if instead of one animation of each sex scene a bunch of different times there was a few that were more fleshed out to either let us choose preg/not or give us a better indication this was leading. Don't get me wrong I love impregnation in games with LIs and I think Cora is a great LI it just didn't feel quite as intentional as I would have liked.

Magnus ending: Sure, this one was okay, classic trope. Would have hit better if there was more of an indication of the accident/injury being an event earlier in the story that was either narrowly avoided in the playthrough or seemed minor at the time. Maybe there is something there and I just missed it but if you're gonna do the oldest twist in the book "it was a dream the whole time" because OP was in a coma having some indication of when the coma took place would make it feel more earned. Matthew/Tommy probably doesn't deserve love considering the type of love he enabled but again didn't quite feel earned.

Raven ending: I chuckled a bit. It was silly and lighthearted, sue me! We knew Raven was batshit crazy from the jump playing her path both ways so not super surprised. There was always magic in the world so it works fine for me. Not a "good ending" for a harem/love lover like myself but worth experiencing.

Dad ending: I can't seem to get either... Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I either get love or Raven. Anyone find any other decisions that needed to be made to get this one? I'll share my thoughts if I figure it out.

Thanks for the game, was fun.

Scuffed was clear about some of the issues with the endings. The Magnus ending being one of the least developed. We have no reason to believe that the Magnus ending could have been a possibility, since there is not any clear foreshadowing, like maybe a moment where the MC trips before finding the girl in the woods.

Well, that was an anti-climactic solution to the previous update's cliffhangar, and no details on how it was solved, just blue haired girl showed up, essentially waved a magic wand and it was so more or less. but 2 more good fuck animations so umm, yay? And I guess next update is the ending, so I guess GN is burned out. Maybe in the next AVN we get to knock up our 12yo blonde or ginger bio daughter (like Emmie from Apt 69 or Hailey from SSP). Would be interesting to see something like SSP or similar get the VAM treatment. I do wonder if GN actually had a more eleborate solution semi-planned in their heads but when it came time to make it happen they said "fuck it, I'm tired and starting to get bored with this and that's too complicated and will take too long". At least 16 months is longer than their average run and I guess it would feel like monotonous Korean MMO grinding after awhile.

Nicest_Incest also commented on how anticlimatic the 'resolution' for the sergeant's cliffhanger was.

I know GN said he'd try not to rush it but...

Spoiler: SPOILER

The fact that there was a whole story hook with the sergeant at the end of update 8 that immediately disappeared at the beginning of update 9 makes me feel like he is just rushing the game at a point other than the ending itself. There is also something odd on how, despite being a slowburn, it still felt rushed to see the MC have sex with the main LI on update 8.
On an additional note, GN is a great (a WONDERFUL) animator, yet the sex scenes almost feel like gifs inserted in the middle of the plot with little to no real narration or dialogue accompanying them. Very pretty gifs, but they feel almost as rewarding as seeing a short animation published on a thread for 3D videos.

And I did too, among other things.

Yeah. There is a lot of shitting from others, and some criticism I've read is unwarranted. But don't act like people aren't commenting on what's actually wrong.

 

[Nastastic]

If the story had jumped forward a few years, they could have shown the wedding, with their little daughter bringing them the rings.
That’s the kind of ending I would have liked to see.

And they could have shown the wedding night...with their little daughter joining them in bed to start learning how to fully participate in family life...
That's the kind of ending I would like to see.

 

[adcock]

I like Uncanny very much and if you are patient, the rewards cum at the end

 

[highlrecommend]

I absolutely loved this game as the animations, graphics, and most of the storyline were extremely well done (the cow portions felt like a fever dream). I have only gotten 2 of the endings so far and I love the LOVE ending and was kind of like WTF?! with the cow ending as it felt very out of left field but at least tied in with the rest of the weird cow ARC. Since I haven't seen all of the endings yet, I can't fully comment on them as a whole but I do hope that the other two do bring some tie-ins and closure to the other supporting characters throughout the game.

went from lightning storms inside by a magic floaty in chapter 9 to a bullshit ending with zero substance in chapter 10

its like the dev had his memory wiped before doing chapter 10

 

[Legion580]

The ending was such a let down...
Raven and Magnus Ending was unnecessary.
The Dad ending could have been changed to a normal Harem ending instead calling it Dad ending and MC/We still Jerk off to them both in the end.. Jesus. With Harem we could at least have even more fun especially with Tara...
So the Love ending is compared to the rest the "Best" ending.

 

[AVa7]

We shouldn't have to tell Goosenards what kinds of endings we want. Any ending can be good as long as it is executed properly. And people don't simply whine and cry. It has been consistently said how rushed things feel and how endings don't feel earned. You are just ignoring what the people are discussing and constructing it as "whining" in your head.

For instance:



AVa7 commented that obstacles are just shrugged off. There was great potential for one crisis and climax with the lady sergeant after that awesome cliffhanger. Instead, she was just outright taken out of the equation at the beginning of the following update. That was a missed opportunity that could have led to some interesting storytelling.

Scuffed was clear about some of the issues with the endings. The Magnus ending being one of the least developed. We have no reason to believe that the Magnus ending could have been a possibility, since there is not any clear foreshadowing, like maybe a moment where the MC trips before finding the girl in the woods.

Nicest_Incest also commented on how anticlimatic the 'resolution' for the sergeant's cliffhanger was.

And I did too, among other things.

Yeah. There is a lot of shitting from others, and some criticism I've read is unwarranted. But don't act like people aren't commenting on what's actually wrong.

Mind you, if Goosenards wants to make a tensionless game full of sex, he could just... do that. Like, from the start. I would be ok with a "turn your brain off" porn game, his renders are good enough that I would enjoy that. But you can't set up a bunch of narrative, build a story around a big secret and develop an overriding theme of dread, magic, isolation and distance, then suddenly be like LOL JK EVERYTHING IS FINE and devolve into dumb porn. Either you're building an erotic narrative or you're making dumb porn. Pick a lane and stick to it! Otherwise you're just gonna take the wind out of my sails.

 

[AVa7]

This time Goose even made 3 different endings

Three really shit endings.

 

[RushdiaAhmad74]

And they could have shown the wedding night...with their little daughter joining them in bed to start learning how to fully participate in family life...
That's the kind of ending I would like to see.

maybe we got together pool our resource and hire somebody to write a game as we like it to be

 

[Slay]

It was a great game until another abrupt ending from the developer. Different aspects of the story ultimately amount to nothing. Their other games were the same thing. It's like the developer gets bored with the project and then quickly slaps together an ending that makes little sense just so they can say that it's complete. Highly disappointing since I really enjoyed chapters 1 through 9.

 

[andrew2002]

I NEVER thought I would say this NEVER!!!!
The ending would be FAR better if he had just fucking died.

 

[highlrecommend]

I NEVER thought I would say this NEVER!!!!
The ending would be FAR better if he had just fucking died.

in his sleep at the very start if chapter 10 & everything after was crying and funerals lol

 

[Malakai]

Somehow i think that bad endings from goosenard have become a meme already.
Ah well.....maybe he should do a troll ending, like the MC gets abducted by aliens, or a zombie apocalypse breaks out and everyone gets eaten!

Yes, i know what you guys are gonna say. Those would be better endings than he is doing now!

 

[highlrecommend]

Somehow i think that bad endings from goosenard have become a meme already.
Ah well.....maybe he should do a troll ending, like the MC gets abducted by aliens, or a zombie apocalypse breaks out and everyone gets eaten!

Yes, i know what you guys are gonna say. Those would be better endings than he is doing now!

well, someone tell @Goosenards I've been in tears since finishing it, sad tears, not tears of joy