discussion VN KN Ren'Py DAZ Thirty Seconds [v0.1.1] [ElfiEven]

[Nezron]

It's not because you don't like the game, it was because you were an asshole. There is a big difference between sharing an opinion and/or giving criticism, and just being a dick.

Oh, please enlighten me on how I was being a dick. And please tell me how you think I should have said what I think about the game.

 

[louisamay]

I noticed the hair and eye color issue as well, but it's a lighting source problem, not a texture/color problem. I've noticed some issues arise when lighting sources seem to be attached to the characters rather than the environment in different VNs, or if the lightning style changes drastically in different scenes. IDK what that entails on the technical front, but I've seen it multiple times from different devs and only point it out when it seems to be an issue with the source and not something intended with environment changes. Although even so I think it's best when lighting is "similar" even in different environments for stylistic reasons. Like Elfie said, the height thing is a perspective choice, and perfectly fine.

IDK if it's boring. I tend not to like romance/pure-con oriented narratives, so I judge them on syntax, pacing, composition, and UI/UX. Since this is linear UX is not really a concern. On the other fronts it seems to be serviceable so I don't ding it based on my personal preferences as to what's entertaining. My main thing would be if there doesn't end up being any incest relationships with the MC I'll most likely stop following the story at some point because there'd really be nothing of particular interest to me here.

Perhaps I was a bit cavalier in my comment; I apologize for that. I guess all I meant was that, compared to the other two pieces, which are truly AWESOME IMO, "Thirty Seconds" pales. That's all I meant. The art is not as good as well. For me, also, well-done hebe vs. well-done loli, eh, no contest -- loli always wins. Quite simplistic, I know, but true...

 

[fthegovernment]

It's not because you don't like the game, it was because you were an asshole. There is a big difference between sharing an opinion and/or giving criticism, and just being a dick.

wanna bitch ?
read my comments.

Oh, please enlighten me on how I was being a dick. And please tell me how you think I should have said what I think about the game.

tell everyone to FTFO, your personal opinion is yours & no ones else's !!
and anyone that tells you otherwise should not be on the internet !

 

[Twisted Wrist]

Guess we'll have to wait for more updates to see how this develops, but I'm putting a Watch onthis thread anyway

 

[ramvivat]

ummmmm errrr ahem!
hehe is MC catch Frankie-fever?
i mean that ummmm errrr etcetera like Frankie from VN "Single Again" .
bad move i can say.

and fix the autor name - it's elfieeven not elfieven - with double e. look at post pgi-257 as proof.

 

[ramvivat]

hmm. it's easy to guess why this organization got its hands on this development by Neurooptics - it's a powerful tool for the future genocide program - to infect the entire population with the 257 virus and then give the cure to the "right people" - the rest will die out on their own. there's a separate cauldron in hell for them, for the people who invented this diabolical plan.
if anything - this is a reference to the mega-globalists' plan on how to cleanse the earth of "extra people" who breathe oxygen that's not their own (but the oxygen of these globalists), who eat food that's not their own (but food that the globalists could eat), and so on and so forth in that vein.

 

[sn0wf0x]

Round of applause and standing ovations.
Thanks for another great game @elfieeven
Your girls are always amazing, really cute and I'm not quite sure yet which one is my fav. Seems like we have the same taste ^^
The story itself is interesting and you kept enough unanswered in this version to be curious about more.

Render quality is top notch! I saw the topic of animations - yeah if they are good they make the game better. But I'd rather have the game without animations when it means the next update is released earlier

I said it once in the PGI game thread. Please don't overwork yourself because your games are amazing and it would be sad to see them abandonded.

 

[ramvivat]

Render quality is top notch!

yeah, if not one girl with the red nose - who made me think about HS2 haha.. red nose is like a "visit card" of a honey select 2

 

[elfieeven]

yeah, if not one girl with the red nose - who made me think about HS2 haha.. red nose is like a "visit card" of a honey select 2

I'll see if I can find/correct that. It's a problem with subsurface scattering that everyone who works in DAZ runs into eventually

 

[elfieeven]

ummmmm errrr ahem!
hehe is MC catch Frankie-fever?
i mean that ummmm errrr etcetera like Frankie from VN "Single Again" .
bad move i can say.

Hahha no.. One "Single Again Frankie" is too much for the world.

I can guarantee that Frank wouldn't happily follow two girls up the stairs to do who knows what.

 

[BadJM]

Oh, please enlighten me on how I was being a dick. And please tell me how you think I should have said what I think about the game.

Yea, not worth my time. Just go back and read your comment and see if you can figure it out by yourself.

 

[ramvivat]

the mention of fresh blood gives reason to think about old blood - that is, about intra-family marriages or in other words about incest. that is, future tags will be pregnancy and incest and also a harem. I definitely like the beginning of this story.

 

[ramvivat]

I'll see if I can find/correct that. It's a problem with subsurface scattering that everyone who works in DAZ runs into eventually

oh cmon dude so be so - let this VN have this little funny blooper. maybe girl walk in school very under booze haha or she have this because she catched cold =))

You do know what the term "author's comma" means, right?

 

[ramvivat]

so. 4 girls plus Susie. of it will be more like in Grandma's House?
i can't wait for visiting the Grandma... or maybe more correct to say Matriarch? hehe =)

 

[ramvivat]

Oh, please enlighten me on how I was being a dick. And please tell me how you think I should have said what I think about the game.

what, and you too disliked at start "that new Frankie"? i understand you bro. i also pissed from his "ummm..."

I also didn't like the moment of his reflection after reading the letter, because there is nothing to think about when it comes to his beloved girl. However, he hated this moment in himself and if you remember how he promised to treat another guy who would treat his daughter with such a delay - he will not be lenient. Yes, it is a bit hypocritical, on the one hand, but on the other hand, he is a responsible adult and is obliged to weigh the pros and cons.
You know, I will give you advice for the future, how to read such things when shit is boiling inside you from how the MC behaves - put it aside, watch a movie, find out the latest news, just calm down, and then come back - and you may start to see things in a different light. (there is an expression "we part with the past laughing")

in the end, such works are specially made so that you think about yourself, about how you behave in your life, whether you make a mistake somewhere that can be corrected or perhaps let go of your mistake because the past cannot be brought back, so that perhaps next time you do not repeat it.

 

[Nezron]

Yea, not worth my time. Just go back and read your comment and see if you can figure it out by yourself.

Ok, I did read my post.... yep that is still my opinion. I guess I could have gone into more detail on why it felt like just a tease, or why I felt the game missed so many opportunities, etc... but did not think I needed to. I did not attack the developer.
Should I have called the developer at dick? You seem ok with doing that. I really do not understand people like you that will get so upset over someone's opinion. We all some from different background, and have different tastes in movies, books, porn, what kind of women we like, etc....

Now did you see me give anyone that likes this game any kind of grief???? no because I can respect others opinions, but I guess not you. Maybe you are the one that needs to think about things.

so if you and a few others got that offended by my post... well don't know what to tell you.... um maybe you are just too sensitive, after all it is not your game so I don't see why you care.

so go a head give me dislikes etc...
I will not make any further comments on this subject.
if the next update is good, I will say so. If next update is bad, well I guess you will be giving me more dislikes....

have a nice day,
peace

p.s. I don't give you dislikes, because not worth my time..

 

[yoyomistro]

what, and you too disliked at start "that new Frankie"? i understand you bro. i also pissed from his "ummm..."

I also didn't like the moment of his reflection after reading the letter, because there is nothing to think about when it comes to his beloved girl. However, he hated this moment in himself and if you remember how he promised to treat another guy who would treat his daughter with such a delay - he will not be lenient. Yes, it is a bit hypocritical, on the one hand, but on the other hand, he is a responsible adult and is obliged to weigh the pros and cons.
You know, I will give you advice for the future, how to read such things when shit is boiling inside you from how the MC behaves - put it aside, watch a movie, find out the latest news, just calm down, and then come back - and you may start to see things in a different light. (there is an expression "we part with the past laughing")

in the end, such works are specially made so that you think about yourself, about how you behave in your life, whether you make a mistake somewhere that can be corrected or perhaps let go of your mistake because the past cannot be brought back, so that perhaps next time you do not repeat it.

Bro, we have multiquotes for a reason. Please use them.

 

[lolcow30]

Yeah... because the content of the actual post had NOTHING to do with the fact a mod and the dev replied. Right

Definitely couldn't be that some members of the community understand that even if you don't like a specific AVN, you don't have to be an asshole about it. Especially considering nobody is paying a cent for the AVN so nobody lost anything other than the time it took to try it out.

Even if you're an asshole you're less likely to receive a huge amount of reactions, say on the 6th page of the comment section, than on the first.
Was he an asshole? yeah, far from the only asshole i've seen on this site.
Sure content matters but so is being among the first commenters of anything, you're just more visible.

 

[OkAlright]

I thought it was ok. Just ok. Was not a fan of the time skips, felt like one story was being setup, then we just skipped ahead to a new story. I also thought it was a bit weird how the MC had morals about using his "power" on females, as he felt like it was taking advantage of them, to I'm in a relationship with this 15 year old student of mine. Like you have the morals to not take advantage of your pheromone output, but not to not bang your 15 year old student. Maybe I'm just being extra critical because this game was part of the reason PGI updates haven't been happening. Either way, doesn't matter what I think, as long as the dev is happy with what they are doing.

 

[elfieeven]

Guy from earlier.. pay attention to this as this is very GOOD criticism!

I thought it was ok. Just ok. Was not a fan of the time skips, felt like one story was being setup, then we just skipped ahead to a new story.

It was either Time Skips or memories and I'm already going to have wayyyyy too many memories in PGI since everyone wants to see what happened with Tracy so went with the other option this time to see which I preferred (I think Memories are going to win).

I also thought it was a bit weird how the MC had morals about using his "power" on females, as he felt like it was taking advantage of them, to I'm in a relationship with this 15 year old student of mine. Like you have the morals to not take advantage of your pheromone output, but not to not bang your 15 year old student.

As for MC and Jessica, there are two things to consider.

First there is the fact that at the end of the dinner with Jensen, it seems like MC intends to do the right thing and he's pretty confident as his ability to do so. What changed?

First off there is definitely the fact that he hasn't dated anyone since at least his early 20s, but considering he's single at the start it's likely been even longer. So that means the last time he dated anyone they were likely in the 16-19 year old range and therefore he literally cannot remember ever dating anyone else older. These girls are definitely younger than he remembers, but they're closer than anyone else he's met in the last 12 years.

Secondly.. Jessica is.. well.. Jessica. As we've seen and we'll continue to see more of, she has a way of getting what she wants. We'll definitely learn more in 0.2 when MC is called upon to explain himself and his actions so far.

Maybe I'm just being extra critical because this game was part of the reason PGI updates haven't been happening. Either way, doesn't matter what I think, as long as the dev is happy with what they are doing.

Oh boy.. good thing you haven't read any of my posts that detail why I actually took a break from PGI or what I was working on. Thirty Seconds took maybe 1/3 of the time up?


So thanks for your feedback and I definitely agree that the end result isn't as good as I would have liked, but going forward things will be a lot cleaner since I don't have to get everything 'caught up'.