discussion VN KN Ren'Py DAZ Thirty Seconds [v0.1.1] [ElfiEven]

[EvilTwin8283]

That is the only render the tray is in lol, unless it's got nanocloaking in all the other ones...

That makes sense then

 

[marcel130]

I've created a post on my PGI-257 dev thread for those who are curious about where things are going from here.

The moon.. the moon is the answer

gotta say i am impatient for updates on all 3 of your games mate i hope everything goes well for you so it wont be long till all of your fans have more content to enjoy

 

[fthegovernment]

gotta say i am impatient for updates on all 3 of your games mate i hope everything goes well for you so it wont be long till all of your fans have more content to enjoy

most of us been waiting since March 1st minimum

 

[marcel130]

most of us been waiting since March 1st minimum

lol im right there with you ive been waiting for pgi update restlessly but im willing to be patient for a good game and as someone who enjoys cute girls and boys i cant wait for updates for just one month as well

 

[fthegovernment]

lol im right there with you ive been waiting for pgi update restlessly but im willing to be patient for a good game and as someone who enjoys cute girls and boys i cant wait for updates for just one month as well

just remember, "just one week" turned into "just one month"

4X extra instantly

a couple of months has turned into 7 months & if you X 7 months by 4 what do you get ?
"just one more minute"

 

[yoyomistro]

so far its ok start. just some issues i saw with model consistency. this comes up alot with the main character as he changes multiple times. sometimes from one scene to next from simple beard gone to hair style or color. for females this comes up in breast size and skin color. they can go from pale to tan (and no its not lighting) and such. you can also see it in character heights being different. good example is Jessica and her sister. in hall she half the height her sister then the pic for bathing suits she as tall as her sister and has different hair style.

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Beard is already fixed for the 0.1.1 update



Character skins have never been changed, though Jessica's face was slimmed a bit and her hair color changed from a hideous gray to black. I tried to fix every scene, but likely missed a few of her face so I'll take another pass through and see if there are any other obvious fixes required. If you want feel free to join my Discord and post to the #bug-reports anything specific you notice.



You're the first person to mention the hair so nice catch. I'll fix that one too, but the heights are the same. It's just a weird camera angle because in that environment the MC is actually at a lower point than they are. We'll see more of this swimming environment in the future so it'll make more sense then.

I noticed the hair and eye color issue as well, but it's a lighting source problem, not a texture/color problem. I've noticed some issues arise when lighting sources seem to be attached to the characters rather than the environment in different VNs, or if the lightning style changes drastically in different scenes. IDK what that entails on the technical front, but I've seen it multiple times from different devs and only point it out when it seems to be an issue with the source and not something intended with environment changes. Although even so I think it's best when lighting is "similar" even in different environments for stylistic reasons. Like Elfie said, the height thing is a perspective choice, and perfectly fine.

Sorry, Elfieeven -- boring.

IDK if it's boring. I tend not to like romance/pure-con oriented narratives, so I judge them on syntax, pacing, composition, and UI/UX. Since this is linear UX is not really a concern. On the other fronts it seems to be serviceable so I don't ding it based on my personal preferences as to what's entertaining. My main thing would be if there doesn't end up being any incest relationships with the MC I'll most likely stop following the story at some point because there'd really be nothing of particular interest to me here.

 

[elfieeven]

I noticed the hair and eye color issue as well, but it's a lighting source problem, not a texture/color problem. I've noticed some issues arise when lighting sources seem to be attached to the characters rather than the environment in different VNs, or if the lightning style changes drastically in different scenes. IDK what that entails on the technical front, but I've seen it multiple times from different devs and only point it out when it seems to be an issue with the source and not something intended with environment changes. Although even so I think it's best when lighting is "similar" even in different environments for stylistic reasons. Like Elfie said, the height thing is a perspective choice, and perfectly fine.

Do you have an example image? The only ones I'm aware of have to do with Jessica's hair as the color was changed.

 

[Nezron]

Very odd:
I have made many post on various games. But I have never had as many middle fingers given, and thumbs downs given before. It was just my opinion, and if you don't like my opinion about the game, that is fine. You are free to post whatever you want. But do you go around telling everyone "Fuck You", that has a different opinion? I have no power to change this game, so if you like it... then you will still have the game. And if I don't like it, then I will move on to other things, well I would have by now if people didn't keep giving me the middle finger, and cause me to post this.

Just because I don't like this game, does not make me the bad guy. I am just a guy like anyone else.

The odd thing is most of these middle fingers come from accounts that are pretty new or don't have a lot of activity, almost like they are Alt accounts. Now who would have alt accounts that would be so angry about my post that they would keep telling me "Fuck You" ???

Well anyway something to ponder.
have a nice day.
peace

 

[lolcow30]

Very odd:
I have made many post on various games. But I have never had as many middle fingers given, and thumbs downs given before.

I would chalk it up to being among the first three comments and replied/quoted by a mod and the dev all in the first page, that's all.

 

[fthegovernment]

Very odd:
I have made many post on various games. But I have never had as many middle fingers given, and thumbs downs given before. It was just my opinion, and if you don't like my opinion about the game, that is fine. You are free to post whatever you want. But do you go around telling everyone "Fuck You", that has a different opinion? I have no power to change this game, so if you like it... then you will still have the game. And if I don't like it, then I will move on to other things, well I would have by now if people didn't keep giving me the middle finger, and cause me to post this.

Just because I don't like this game, does not make me the bad guy. I am just a guy like anyone else.

The odd thing is most of these middle fingers come from accounts that are pretty new or don't have a lot of activity, almost like they are Alt accounts. Now who would have alt accounts that would be so angry about my post that they would keep telling me "Fuck You" ???

Well anyway something to ponder.
have a nice day.
peace

who cares, they are all worth coins & if it's making you more coins than switch your demeanour !!

 

[Redyscom]

Keep cooking, don't rush perfection.

 

[yoyomistro]

Do you have an example image? The only ones I'm aware of have to do with Jessica's hair as the color was changed.

Sure, on a different PC tonight so it will have to be a bit later. Might be a day or two TBH depending on how busy I am tomorrow night.

 

[Freyr]

As a pansexual person I find statements like this hilarious

That was my intention

 

[elfieeven]

I would chalk it up to being among the first three comments and replied/quoted by a mod and the dev all in the first page, that's all.

Yeah... because the content of the actual post had NOTHING to do with the fact a mod and the dev replied. Right

Definitely couldn't be that some members of the community understand that even if you don't like a specific AVN, you don't have to be an asshole about it. Especially considering nobody is paying a cent for the AVN so nobody lost anything other than the time it took to try it out.

 

[Lostandquiet73]

The graphics look promising, albeit I'd rather wait until at least another update to check it out. Keep up the good work!

 

[Lostandquiet73]

Tray, beard and focus problems (Jessica & Rin at water park when MC is too focused on Quinn to say Hi to Nora) have been fixed and will come in 0.1.1 which will include French translation.

And originally I wasn't planning on having any animations in this game due to time constraints, but the characters are just too cute to not have SOME animations. Obviously not Radiant level or anything too crazy, but can't get good at it if I never practice it, right?

tbh I think animations are overrated. I mean, yeah, they are nice, but I think a good sex scene can be written with static graphics if you know how to write nice dialogue and descriptions. My first porn games were old Japanese VNs with zero animations, and I still think this old Japanese style is way better than a GIF with 2 to 3 dialogues.

 

[BadJM]

Very odd:
I have made many post on various games. But I have never had as many middle fingers given, and thumbs downs given before. It was just my opinion, and if you don't like my opinion about the game, that is fine. You are free to post whatever you want. But do you go around telling everyone "Fuck You", that has a different opinion? I have no power to change this game, so if you like it... then you will still have the game. And if I don't like it, then I will move on to other things, well I would have by now if people didn't keep giving me the middle finger, and cause me to post this.

Just because I don't like this game, does not make me the bad guy. I am just a guy like anyone else.

The odd thing is most of these middle fingers come from accounts that are pretty new or don't have a lot of activity, almost like they are Alt accounts. Now who would have alt accounts that would be so angry about my post that they would keep telling me "Fuck You" ???

Well anyway something to ponder.
have a nice day.
peace

It's not because you don't like the game, it was because you were an asshole. There is a big difference between sharing an opinion and/or giving criticism, and just being a dick.

 

[elfieeven]

tbh I think animations are overrated. I mean, yeah, they are nice, but I think a good sex scene can be written with static graphics if you know how to write nice dialogue and descriptions. My first porn games were old Japanese VNs with zero animations, and I still think this old Japanese style is way better than a GIF with 2 to 3 dialogues.

I definitely feel there is a time and place for them. Sometimes just doing a few renders that loop is definitely good enough.

I originally tried to animate the kissing scene with Yuna in PGI-257 but gave up when I realized it was definitely not worth the time/effort.

It's not because you don't like the game, it was because you were an asshole. There is a big difference between sharing an opinion and/or giving criticism, and just being a dick.

+1

I love opinions and constructive criticism. PGI-257 EP1 would have been total poop if I didn't get some really great criticism that lead me to rewrite half of it.

 

[Beduin123]

but I think a good sex scene can be written with static graphics if you know how to write nice dialogue and descriptions.

Exactly! One of the good examples is Sisterly Lust. It has some of the best written lewd scenes IMO, in spite of having outdated graphics and next to no animations.

 

[BadJM]

Animations are a nice bonus but they aren't necessary, there are a few good examples of games with no animations and the sex scenes are still hot as fuck. You just need nice poses and angles with good dialogue.