discussion Complete KN Ren'Py DAZ The family in trouble [v0.9] [lonely wolf]

[Nicest_Incest]

"Will he ask you for more favors in the future?"
he? you mean she?

"Maybe, his marriage is over..."
his? you mean her?

Yeah flipping pronouns is the most common translation mistake, particularly between EU ones and Russian/Asian ones. Even Google translate does it sometimes (probably the source of the mistake, blindly copy/pasting with no proofreading). Since English is already used in global trade I sometimes wish the other ~7150 would just go extinct already and start teaching English everywhere from birth or at least from 5yo/kindergarten, no translation issues then (well, eventually after a few generations, old habits die hard).

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Really pisses me off how people are quick to do cunnilingus and analingus scenes for lolis but not MILFs.

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I'd much rather eat this phat ass that got the finger.

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Than this little oversexualized cunt that's already had two oral scenes.

/shrug it's a loli AVN, not a milf- centered one. Milfs are a dime a dozen (thousands upon thousands of those AVNs already) and this AVN is not meant for milf lovers, it's meant for hebes/****s/loli lovers. That's why the MC's sis is getting little action other than in flashbacks. If the situation were reversed (milf getting all the action when her kid isn't) I would have gotten bored and left after 2 updates, since I have far less interest watching some chubby middle-aged woman that isn't even a 7 get ate and fucked.

 

[Toma666]

Is this just a visual novel or will we get some choices/options at a point ? because so far it's not a game... just feel like a movie/novel...

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Though I like Chloe (and to a lesser extent, Sophie), I do not like the way this one is going. 1.9 out of 5 stars (only because of Chloe, mostly)

• MC is creepy looking and acting, way too much into asses than vaginas. Yes, in these games they are always ****s to begin with, but this one looks like he keeps women chained up in a bunker somewhere! The fact women throw themselves at him is hard to believe. He is likely on an offender list or 3.
• The developer is WAY too much into anal stuff! The MC tries to take Sophie's virginity, and it hurt her too much. So naturally, he instead decides to take her anal virginity, because I am sure that would hurt far less! MC is constantly eating asses instead of going for the pussy, which makes him worse and he is already bad to begin with! Not my kink, but if you are into anal, you found your v0.1 game!
• The developer has a habit of abandoning games. I do not want to hear about hard drive crashes, it is called get a cheap external hard drive or USB drive (64 GB USB drives are $10.00 and 128GB less than $20.00 for Christ's sake!) and back your stuff up! That is only an assumption, but I do not like developers who take the money and basically run. People are paying to support a project, not pay and let the developer enjoy having the money then skipping town.
• The sister has bad proportions, her friend was way hotter due to looking attractive with a nice body. The sister looks like she could be hot if she laid off the donuts a bit!
• Too much unnecessary dialog with ass-eating "payoffs".

Eh keeping your harem in a bunker is the easiest way to build it, otherwise they tend to run to the cops. Herding girls is worse than herding cats without that off-grid bunker. And lists don't mean shit if everyone is on them. At this point it would easier/shorter if the list only listed people that are still virgins and non-offenders.

 

[kmiller123]

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/shrug it's a loli AVN, not a milf- centered one. Milfs are a dime a dozen (thousands upon thousands of those AVNs already) and this AVN is not meant for milf lovers, it's meant for hebes/****s/loli lovers. That's why the MC's sis is getting little action other than in flashbacks. If the situation were reversed (milf getting all the action when her kid isn't) I would have gotten bored and left after 2 updates, since I have far less interest watching some chubby middle-aged woman that isn't even a 7 get ate and fucked.

he way i look at it either play it or dont dont just compalin about it

 

[UZTO]

/shrug it's a loli AVN, not a milf- centered one. Milfs are a dime a dozen (thousands upon thousands of those AVNs already) and this AVN is not meant for milf lovers, it's meant for hebes/****s/loli lovers. That's why the MC's sis is getting little action other than in flashbacks. If the situation were reversed (milf getting all the action when her kid isn't) I would have gotten bored and left after 2 updates, since I have far less interest watching some chubby middle-aged woman that isn't even a 7 get ate and fucked.

Bullshit. Loli games are a dime a dozen and they all play out the same. Exactly the same. Like most loli content in general, that's all mostly very unimaginative. I don't know why this dev used such an attractive, thicc model for the sister/mom (that the MC is obviously interested in) if he's not going to do anything with her besides make her look stupid as the MC and daughter keep lying to her face. Every loli game dev does that to exclude the MILFs from the fun and it's lame as hell. Also not to mention, these lolis are kind of ugly. Especially the freckled faced ginger.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Is this just a visual novel or will we get some choices/options at a point ? because so far it's not a game... just feel like a movie/novel...

technically none of these are games. Even sandbox ones (where you have to grind stats and get lost while searching for shit to get chicks naked) barely pass for a piss poor one by Steam (mostly unreal and unity) standards, as Renpy is meant for VN's, not so much for games (though you can make it to work as such with some work-arounds). You probably meant to ask if this is kinetic (no choices) or not. and yes there's choices. Whether they matter much or not in the long term remains to be seen.

 

[Toma666]

/shrug it's a loli AVN, not a milf- centered one. Milfs are a dime a dozen (thousands upon thousands of those AVNs already) and this AVN is not meant for milf lovers, it's meant for hebes/****s/loli lovers. That's why the MC's sis is getting little action other than in flashbacks. If the situation were reversed (milf getting all the action when her kid isn't) I would have gotten bored and left after 2 updates, since I have far less interest watching some chubby middle-aged woman that isn't even a 7 get ate and fucked.

I don't see or know any rules excluding Milf in Loli story, neither Loli being excluded to Milf story... even less when Incest is in the playfield, better have the sister than the mc mother/grandmother, all is question of balance

 

[Toma666]

technically none of these are games. Even sandbox ones (where you have to grind stats and get lost while searching for shit to get chicks naked) barely pass for a piss poor one by Steam (mostly unreal and unity) standards, as Renpy is meant for VN's, not so much for games (though you can make it to work as such with some work-arounds). You probably meant to ask if this is kinetic (no choices) or not. and yes there's choices. Whether they matter much or not in the long term remains to be seen.

& where have you see choice here so far ? because i missed them... pressing the space/enter key of your keyboard to pass the text isn't choices as far i'm aware...
as for the tachnical, sorry don't take it personnaly but i don't care, either you have choices buttons/sandbox feature, either you just read the text without any other action needed from the player than pressing space...

either you "just" read a book or you have a "you are the hero" book where you need to read+play

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Bullshit. Loli games are a dime a dozen and they all play out the same. Exactly the same. Like most loli content in general, that's all mostly very unimaginative. I don't know why this dev used such an attractive, thicc model for the sister/mom (that the MC is obviously interested in) if he's not going to do anything with her besides make her look stupid as the MC and daughter keep lying to her face. Every loli game dev does that to exclude the MILFs from the fun and it's lame as hell. Also not to mention, these lolis are kind of ugly. Especially the freckled faced ginger.

Then where are they? Most are banned just about every else other than Pixiv, ATF and here (not counting the Darkweb) and there's certainly not thousands of them. Maybe 2% out of the total 42k of them (several hundred) at most. And ****s aren't picky when it comes to lolis, and don't care about what the milfs look like either since they get mostly ignored by them. It's kinda obvious what kink/sexual preferance group AVNs like this one are meant to cater to. Apparently this is simply not your type of AVN. I mean yeah to me Such A Sharp Pain or One Summer In Loliwood this ain't (those are in leagues of their own) but it is still good enough to keep me interested, as I prefer lolis (ideally incest ones) over milfs.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

& where have you see choice here so far ? because i missed them... pressing the space/enter key of your keyboard to pass the text isn't choices as far i'm aware...
as for the tachnical, sorry don't take it personnaly but i don't care, either you have choices buttons/sandbox feature, either you just read the text without any other action needed from the player than pressing space...

either you "just" read a book or you have a "you are the hero" book where you need to read+play

Yeah my bad, no choices (hence KN tag = kinetic novel). I was thinking of different AVN.

 

[Toma666]

Yeah my bad, no choices (hence KN tag = kinetic novel). I was thinking of different AVN.

i fail to understand the kinetic because i know a lot of game tagged as KN with choices/sandbox when Visual Novel is just that... visual without intarction

 

[Nastastic]

"Will he ask you for more favors in the future?"
he? you mean she?

"Maybe, his marriage is over..."
his? you mean her?

Yeah flipping pronouns is the most common translation mistake, particularly between EU ones and Russian/Asian ones. Even Google translate does it sometimes (probably the source of the mistake, blindly copy/pasting with no proofreading). Since English is already used in global trade I sometimes wish the other ~7150 would just go extinct already and start teaching English everywhere from birth or at least from 5yo/kindergarten, no translation issues then (well, eventually after a few generations, old habits die hard).

Not sure how Elinan's first example happens. Most languages have pretty clear analogs to "he" and "she" pronouns.

On the other hand, possessive pronouns ("his" and "her") are handled differently in English vs. most other languages. In English, the gender of the possessive follows the gender of the subject, so: his marriage or her marriage depending on whether the subject is a man or a woman. In most other languages, the gender of the possessive follows the gender of the object, so, using Spanish as an example: su casamiento (his marriage) or su casamiento (her marriage) because casamiento is masculine. So when a machine translation algorithm runs to convert a non-English language into English, it can't tell whether to use "his" or "her" because it can't tell which gender the subject is by context like humans can (AI isn't that good yet) and so it will arbitrarily assign one or the other.

 

[UZTO]

Then where are they? Most are banned just about every else other than Pixiv, ATF and here (not counting the Darkweb) and there's certainly not thousands of them. Maybe 2% out of the total 42k of them (several hundred) at most. And ****s aren't picky when it comes to lolis, and don't care about what the milfs look like either since they get mostly ignored by them. It's kinda obvious what kink/sexual preferance group AVNs like this one are meant to cater to. Apparently this is simply not your type of AVN. I mean yeah to me Such A Sharp Pain or One Summer In Loliwood this ain't (those are in leagues of their own) but it is still good enough to keep me interested, as I prefer lolis (ideally incest ones) over milfs.

Are you asking me where are the loli games? Because if so, I have a much better question for you. Where are the shota games? Not the ones where the MC is some big dick teen or dominating women left and right. But the **** woman equivalent to all the **** man simulators around here. Lolicons get everything they fucking want while those of us who like both (MILFs and Lolis) are stuck with halfass content on both sides. Can't have a mother-daughter threesome because lolicons don't want to see tits. Can't have a MILF dominating a young boy because shotacons are snowflakes who want to be vicariously pampered.

 

[Nastastic]

mother-daughter threesome

MILF dominating a young boy

Any sort of femdom content will always be kind of a niche thing here. Most players see it as emasculation similar to NTR, whether or not that is fair.

 

[User_22739]

Here's my unofficial android port of The Family in Trouble v0.5

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Spoiler: Features

Swipe Down - Hide Ui
Swipe Left - Rollback
Swipe Right - Start Skipping Text
Swipe Up - Save Your Game
Swipe Up and Down - Enable Auto Forward Mode
Opacity Slider and Text Size on Preferences

Spoiler: Saves location

All saves are located on Documents > Cebs
..::GRANT PERMISSION ON FIRST RUN::..

Any word on the 0.6 android Port?

 

[Ruffuss]

Any word on the 0.6 android Port?

https://lewdcorner.com/threads/android-port-requests-renpy-only.213/

 

[seronis]

Not sure how Elinan's first example happens. Most languages have pretty clear analogs to "he" and "she" pronouns.

On the other hand, possessive pronouns ("his" and "her") are handled differently in English vs. most other languages. In English, the gender of the possessive follows the gender of the subject, so: his marriage or her marriage depending on whether the subject is a man or a woman. In most other languages, the gender of the possessive follows the gender of the object, so, using Spanish as an example: su casamiento (his marriage) or su casamiento (her marriage) because casamiento is masculine. So when a machine translation algorithm runs to convert a non-English language into English, it can't tell whether to use "his" or "her" because it can't tell which gender the subject is by context like humans can (AI isn't that good yet) and so it will arbitrarily assign one or the other.

A pronoun doesnt follow the subject it follows the gender of the name its replacing. Johns marriage == his marriage. Susans marriage == her marriage. It doesnt matter if the sentence overall has a different subject, the pronoun ALWAYS matches the word it replaced.

 

[Nastastic]

A pronoun doesnt follow the subject it follows the gender of the name its replacing. Johns marriage == his marriage. Susans marriage == her marriage. It doesnt matter if the sentence overall has a different subject, the pronoun ALWAYS matches the word it replaced.

Which is another way of saying exactly what I said, only tying the gender of the possessive pronoun to the gender of the name, rather than the person. I was referring to the subject of the pronoun, not the subject of the entire sentence. In either case, in most non-English languages, the possessive noun does NOT agree with the gender of the name or the person, but of the object (the marriage, in this case).

 

[Nicest_Incest]

i fail to understand the kinetic because i know a lot of game tagged as KN with choices/sandbox when Visual Novel is just that... visual without intarction

Then that's a mistaken tag on their part. Kinetic means just reading, no choices. And KN and Sandbox are most definitely mutally exclusive, since with sandbox there's all sorts of shit to do to unlock scenes besides just read (and not just choices, but usually grind stats, search places for key items and other hoops to jump through as well).