discussion VN Ren'Py [HS2] Surviving My Family [Chapter 2 Part 1] [Carmine Note Games]

[Antuuthu]

Thank you for the warning. I almost played it because of all the good tags harem ,incest lol . I am a big fan of post apocalyptic setup too. But ntr is where I draw the line like many other .hehe

Lewd corner generally good with tags I guess they will add the ntr tag as soon as it appears in game .

here is the full dev notes

NTR WON'T be animated or depicted its more of an implication for certain scenarios that just ends with a game over. I do not like NTR either this is just a game mechanic to add tension and a consequence for a story piece in a later arch. Just like I am planning to add game overs that result in death for choosing a wrong option or clicking at the wrong time stuff like that. At the end of the day, it is a game. I want there to be minor choices that may lead you to view different scenes, but you will still get to the end of the story as intended. All of this can be turned off when implemented if you would rather have a more kinetic novel experience and not fail. Also, this "NTR" is not meant to make you jealous as is the true definition. Your LI's will never do that my "NTR" will be story related and will only be implied to have happened due to your failure to protect them again leading to game over. Anyways happy gaming!
vague spoiler if you're still worried about "NTR"
there will be factions or groups some good some bad one group leader will be a threat that fixates on one of the girls, but nothing will happen. The "implied NTR" is just a mechanic for game over purposes as the girl is trying to escape thus the multiple protags as you will make the choice on how to escape and weather it succeeds or results in death or said "implied NTR" because it's a game. Anyways I have it on planned because nobody seems to agree what NTR is, but I didn't want you all to be surprised if a mod decided it was NTR. Also, this probably won't happen until the 2nd or 3rd arch IDK. 1st arch is establishing the world and relationships.

so there is really no ntr, will never happen.

 

[King]

here is the full dev notes

NTR WON'T be animated or depicted its more of an implication for certain scenarios that just ends with a game over. I do not like NTR either this is just a game mechanic to add tension and a consequence for a story piece in a later arch. Just like I am planning to add game overs that result in death for choosing a wrong option or clicking at the wrong time stuff like that. At the end of the day, it is a game. I want there to be minor choices that may lead you to view different scenes, but you will still get to the end of the story as intended. All of this can be turned off when implemented if you would rather have a more kinetic novel experience and not fail. Also, this "NTR" is not meant to make you jealous as is the true definition. Your LI's will never do that my "NTR" will be story related and will only be implied to have happened due to your failure to protect them again leading to game over. Anyways happy gaming!
vague spoiler if you're still worried about "NTR"
there will be factions or groups some good some bad one group leader will be a threat that fixates on one of the girls, but nothing will happen. The "implied NTR" is just a mechanic for game over purposes as the girl is trying to escape thus the multiple protags as you will make the choice on how to escape and weather it succeeds or results in death or said "implied NTR" because it's a game. Anyways I have it on planned because nobody seems to agree what NTR is, but I didn't want you all to be surprised if a mod decided it was NTR. Also, this probably won't happen until the 2nd or 3rd arch IDK. 1st arch is establishing the world and relationships.

so there is really no ntr, will never happen.

That's even worse . So dev don't like ntr but he will add it to the game because to add tension, that's just weak writing at that point imo. It's classic in the avn community though the only tension they can add is ntr and ràpe . Get cucked if you fail . Rather then reward system they have a punish system.
I am just saying there are thousands other ways to make your game more impactful and add tension with out adding generic trope. But hey if your game is focused on ntr then it's the way to go .but highly doubt that was the case here .

 

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[Montimer]

I don't think I've seen this one in here.
However, if it's locked in the games+, I guess there has to be some... spicy content here.
I'll give it a try.

 

[BionicJohnson]

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[姫小猫 Sakurai]

Good luck for your game !!!!

 

[Carmine♫Games]

Gofile links are not public.

Fixed thanks!

 

[Nezron]

I played it and liked it. I think there is good base for a harem/incest game.
Now for me... if it has some survival parts like in the game Mist... I am ok with that.
if the game has a bunch of "Game Over" choices... well I really don't care for that...
if the game has any of the LI's die... well game will be dead to me.

And if you make a game with different paths... like good or evil etc.... I just don't see that working well for you... that is way too much work to do..... just pick a path and do that. Or you will just piss people off... "why is it taking so long to do an update?", "why was the update mostly the corruption path?", "why can't I do this or that?"....
I have seen this in other games that try to make multiple paths... it rarely works out... or the dev gets frustrated or burned out and quits...

Maybe take a look at Then and Now... it was a pretty good zombie type of game... and the dev finished it. (don't do the Emmie thing like he did... that is just messed up)....

Well anyway... I like what is there. so good luck.
peace

 

[zesergeant]

I'ma check this out!
Dev, is pregnancy never going to be in the game, or is it far future plan?
Just wanted to double-triple-check, since it's not in the tags!

 

[Carmine♫Games]

I'ma check this out!
Dev, is pregnancy never going to be in the game, or is it far future plan?
Just wanted to double-triple-check, since it's not in the tags!

If things work out a certain way it will be far future plan, so I didn't want to put it in the planned. It would also be unavoidable at that point because it would lead to a time jump. It will be too much of a spoiler too explain further. Again, it might not even happen at all but that's what it would playout as. P.s MC had a vasectomy after Leyla so it's not a worry for now. Even though rare the procedure has been known to reverse itself so it's still plausible. Thanks for checking it out. Happy Gaming!

 

[hansdampf788]

- bad end NTR
- unavoidable lesbian NTR
- MC shoots blanks

 

[Nezron]

If things work out a certain way it will be far future plan, so I didn't want to put it in the planned. It would also be unavoidable at that point because it would lead to a time jump. It will be too much of a spoiler too explain further. Again, it might not even happen at all but that's what it would playout as. P.s MC had a vasectomy after Leyla so it's not a worry for now. Even though rare the procedure has been known to reverse itself so it's still plausible. Thanks for checking it out. Happy Gaming!

I guess it all depends what kind of ending you want. If the MC is going to be the lover of all the girls in the house, and you want a happy ending... the MC will need to knock them up at some point... you don't even have to really time jump or show it... depending on how you plan to pass time in the game. Most harem games are day to day.. or week by week. And you can always do like some games and have an epilog at the end... showing the girls having kids, and how everyone is doing.. that sort of thing.

But sad times for the girls if they can't have kids.

peace

 

[Nicest_Incest]

They all have tits so I see no lolis, which means this is another AVN restricted to + section for nothing. Hell even F95 (with their dumb definition of a loli as anyone under 18 rather than the internet's defintion) this has no loli tag.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

- bad end NTR
- unavoidable lesbian NTR
- MC shoots blanks

damn, sounds like a shitty start and I haven't even downloaded it yet. Bad ends are supposed to be avoidable so there's that (at least I hope so, though I still hate them, because the previous choices were unnecessary as they weren't really legit choices if it's die or not die). But MC shooting blanks sucks. Half the thrill of incest is the risk of getting them pregnant with defective babies (in case of dad knocking up his daughters). It's still early, so still possible he's mistaken and it's the wife that's sterile and he finds out when he knocks up his daughter.

 

[Mr. Tearson]

- bad end NTR
- unavoidable lesbian NTR

damn, sounds like a shitty start and I haven't even downloaded it yet. Bad ends are supposed to be avoidable so there's that (at least I hope so, though I still hate them, because the previous choices were unnecessary as they weren't really legit choices if it's die or not die). But MC shooting blanks sucks. Half the thrill of incest is the risk of getting them pregnant with defective babies (in case of dad knocking up his daughters). It's still early, so still possible he's mistaken and it's the wife that's sterile and he finds out when he knocks up his daughter.

NTR is not to be added to the game. From what I've been told, and even explained further on what he meant, it's never shown. Only a "tease".

This is not a game for NTR Lovers. When I have some free time, I'm going to check it out, myself. No idea about that blank situation, though.

 

[Tiur]

damn, sounds like a shitty start and I haven't even downloaded it yet. Bad ends are supposed to be avoidable so there's that (at least I hope so, though I still hate them, because the previous choices were unnecessary as they weren't really legit choices if it's die or not die). But MC shooting blanks sucks. Half the thrill of incest is the risk of getting them pregnant with defective babies (in case of dad knocking up his daughters). It's still early, so still possible he's mistaken and it's the wife that's sterile and he finds out when he knocks up his daughter.

There is no NTR, and won't be any. The dev notes on the other site are really clear about it: it will be a Bad End implication or single mention with no visual depiction or detailed description just before a Game Over screen for cases where the player fucked up.

The "unavoidable lesbian" complaint is also pretty spurious. The MC, his sister, and his wife are in a pre-existing triad relationship. Dev confirmed they are the only two who will ever be doing things with each other without the MC directing it to happen. (And they're not lesbian, they're bi, and both are submissive to the MC, deeply in love with him, and very very obviously the harem enablers.)

For the "MC shoots blanks" thing, that's a player choice. The player sets the characters' relationships, and while they're all defaulted to "step", there's nothing at all in the game that contradicts just removing the "step". (Oh, and to further prove that poster was talking out of his ass, pregnancy content is confirmed for late-game or end-game.)

 

[elfieeven]

For the "MC shoots blanks" thing, that's a player choice. The player sets the characters' relationships, and while they're all defaulted to "step", there's nothing at all in the game that contradicts just removing the "step". (Oh, and to further prove that poster was talking out of his ass, pregnancy content is confirmed for late-game or end-game.)

I thought the MC was confirmed to have had a vasectomy which MAY magically reverse itself.

 

[Tiur]

I thought the MC was confirmed to have had a vasectomy which MAY magically reverse itself.

Hm, I don't remember seeing that, though it's been weeks since I played the update.

Regardless, it's not magical. Recanalization absolutely does happen IRL without surgical intervention (sometimes even years later!). It's even more likely that an unsuccessful vasectomy goes undetected until there's a pregnancy (men who get them frequently fail to go back for the follow-up sperm test a couple months later which confirms success).

 

[Carmine♫Games]

I thought the MC was confirmed to have had a vasectomy which MAY magically reverse itself.

There is no NTR, and won't be any. The dev notes on the other site are really clear about it: it will be a Bad End implication or single mention with no visual depiction or detailed description just before a Game Over screen for cases where the player fucked up.

The "unavoidable lesbian" complaint is also pretty spurious. The MC, his sister, and his wife are in a pre-existing triad relationship. Dev confirmed they are the only two who will ever be doing things with each other without the MC directing it to happen. (And they're not lesbian, they're bi, and both are submissive to the MC, deeply in love with him, and very very obviously the harem enablers.)

For the "MC shoots blanks" thing, that's a player choice. The player sets the characters' relationships, and while they're all defaulted to "step", there's nothing at all in the game that contradicts just removing the "step". (Oh, and to further prove that poster was talking out of his ass, pregnancy content is confirmed for late-game or end-game.)

Hm, I don't remember seeing that, though it's been weeks since I played the update.

Regardless, it's not magical. Recanalization absolutely does happen IRL without surgical intervention (sometimes even years later!). It's even more likely that an unsuccessful vasectomy goes undetected until there's a pregnancy (men who get them frequently fail to go back for the follow-up sperm test a couple months later which confirms success).

confirmed for late-game or end-game. On another note, it's a fucking Zombie Apocalypse ain't nobody got time for that. Lol jokes aside the original plan is for it to be an end game event that could possibly lead into another game not to be confused with an arch. But I'm not sure yet so it's not worthy enough to be on the planned tags. Anyway, I hope you try it out either way it will be here when you want to lurk on it. Happy Gaming!

 

[elfieeven]

Hm, I don't remember seeing that, though it's been weeks since I played the update.

Regardless, it's not magical. Recanalization absolutely does happen IRL without surgical intervention (sometimes even years later!). It's even more likely that an unsuccessful vasectomy goes undetected until there's a pregnancy (men who get them frequently fail to go back for the follow-up sperm test a couple months later which confirms success).

Haha oh I'm well aware that vasectomies can fail And yes.. they do fail to go back for the follow up test.. whoops

But I still consider it pretty unlikely to fail years later.