discussion On Hold RPGM Summer Principal[KRMK]

[HandholdDegen]

Ok, so some initial feedback: easy 4* from the get-go because I like what you're doing.
Praise:
1) The girls are SO FRIGGIN CUTE!!! I wanna squish and hug them. But I sense this is more of a spank and dominate game. Hope there will be room for more cuddly touchy feely stuff too.
2) It is fairly easy to figure out what to do.
3) The game gets going pretty quickly so I feel like I get to control the narrative early.
4) I love the potential of this game. It has a simple concept and a fairly rapid ramp-up

Critique:
1) RPG make window is too small. Please make it a little bigger.
2) The random daily events are a little too random. I feel like I never see some of the girls come up, but I've been asked to turn on the AC and buy ice cream several times.
3) The current loop is very basic. Once you buy the programming book you end up in what feels like the most optimal cycle of:
a) work in programming
b) buy three gifts
c) visit girls (nothing ever happens here - just random pictures based on what has been unlocked randomly up until now)
d) interview girl and give her 3 gifts
e) day ends.
4) I don't feel like there is much interaction going on as the gifts are the primary way to improve stats, which means you don't speak to the girls or pat their heads - at least not until you max their stats.
5) Currently it feels like I'm just waiting for RNG to unlock new stuff while I'm slowly increasing stats of the girls. I can't tell what is random and what happens at a set timer.
6) I don't have a clear indication of how much time I have, or if I can max out all the girls in one playthrough or if I have to commit to a few of them from the beginning.

Suggestions:
1) When choosing which girl to interview, please have their stats display in that selection menu so I can see better what their stats are. Also, try to add their heads as icons so it is easier to see which girl is brought in
2) Maybe give us a choice every now and then between different events to help us get the outcomes we want. Currently I barely see some of the girls during the daily events so I have no chance to get attached to them.
3) Limit gift-giving. I'd rather the gifts were more expensive, can only be given once a day during an interview and had a greater stat-bonus. That way I would be encouraged to try the other options too to see what I have managed to unlock. Currently there is no indication that stats have improved enough to enable certain interactions, so basically I'm just giving gifts until stats are maxed and then I start doing other things like undressing and visiting places.
4) When visiting places, it would be nice if the clothes that you've told a girl to take off stays off. Let's parade her around the school in just her panties.
5) I hope you will include a low-discipline path where you don't spank them but instead make then naughtier and more playful.
6) An Auto-Save feature for each new day would be greatly appreciated. I just closed the game and forgot to save, so lost several day's of playing.

 

[Black Raven]

how did you feel about the girls

Horny.

Are there enough diferences between them?

Sure.

Did the dialog during the spanking scenes go too manga-like for your taste?

I didn't pay too much attention to the dialog in those scenes but i've got nothing against manga in general.


So correct me if i'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be differences in the afternoon events depending on stats, unlike the pool events. It would be cool if drunk girl undress according to her shyness stat, homework girl reward you with more than a hug with enough lust, these kinds of things.

 

[SmilingJack4]

so you made a demo, that demonstrates everything but what people want from these games.

What were you thinking?

 

[Ochi]

really love the game so far. Girls are cutes need a button to hide text box. Definitivly waiting for the update. keep the good work !

 

[Vlbc]

And again we came back to small adult women lol

It would be way better if the models were teenagers...

 

[AlBetGam]

Hard to judge the gameplay loop here because most of the rewards aren't really added. E.G. you can pretty much spank and see nudity right away, but how many headpats will it take to unlock (say) oral sex? Big element of what makes management games either enjoyable or unbearable.

 

[Krmk]

Ok, so some initial feedback: easy 4* from the get-go because I like what you're doing.
Praise:
1) The girls are SO FRIGGIN CUTE!!! I wanna squish and hug them. But I sense this is more of a spank and dominate game. Hope there will be room for more cuddly touchy feely stuff too.
2) It is fairly easy to figure out what to do.
3) The game gets going pretty quickly so I feel like I get to control the narrative early.
4) I love the potential of this game. It has a simple concept and a fairly rapid ramp-up

Critique:
1) RPG make window is too small. Please make it a little bigger.
2) The random daily events are a little too random. I feel like I never see some of the girls come up, but I've been asked to turn on the AC and buy ice cream several times.
3) The current loop is very basic. Once you buy the programming book you end up in what feels like the most optimal cycle of:
a) work in programming
b) buy three gifts
c) visit girls (nothing ever happens here - just random pictures based on what has been unlocked randomly up until now)
d) interview girl and give her 3 gifts
e) day ends.
4) I don't feel like there is much interaction going on as the gifts are the primary way to improve stats, which means you don't speak to the girls or pat their heads - at least not until you max their stats.
5) Currently it feels like I'm just waiting for RNG to unlock new stuff while I'm slowly increasing stats of the girls. I can't tell what is random and what happens at a set timer.
6) I don't have a clear indication of how much time I have, or if I can max out all the girls in one playthrough or if I have to commit to a few of them from the beginning.

Suggestions:
1) When choosing which girl to interview, please have their stats display in that selection menu so I can see better what their stats are. Also, try to add their heads as icons so it is easier to see which girl is brought in
2) Maybe give us a choice every now and then between different events to help us get the outcomes we want. Currently I barely see some of the girls during the daily events so I have no chance to get attached to them.
3) Limit gift-giving. I'd rather the gifts were more expensive, can only be given once a day during an interview and had a greater stat-bonus. That way I would be encouraged to try the other options too to see what I have managed to unlock. Currently there is no indication that stats have improved enough to enable certain interactions, so basically I'm just giving gifts until stats are maxed and then I start doing other things like undressing and visiting places.
4) When visiting places, it would be nice if the clothes that you've told a girl to take off stays off. Let's parade her around the school in just her panties.
5) I hope you will include a low-discipline path where you don't spank them but instead make then naughtier and more playful.
6) An Auto-Save feature for each new day would be greatly appreciated. I just closed the game and forgot to save, so lost several day's of playing.

Thanks for the extensive análisis. I'll take those suggestions in consideration.
Gifts are definitely getting nerfed, I just didn't want to have players farming interviews in the demo, with the small amount of events there are.
I also have to try and spice up the gameplay loop, optimized play is as you say, too obvious. A naughty path sounds like something cool, thanks for that idea.

Thanks a lot for trying the demo and this detailed análisis. Be sure I'll take these into consideration moving on.

Horny.



Sure.



I didn't pay too much attention to the dialog in those scenes but i've got nothing against manga in general.


So correct me if i'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be differences in the afternoon events depending on stats, unlike the pool events. It would be cool if drunk girl undress according to her shyness stat, homework girl reward you with more than a hug with enough lust, these kinds of things.

Branching events depending on stats is a planned feature, afternoon events have harder requirements, for example there's a Sophie x Harper one that requires Lewdness >= 50 for both of them, and then you have to get lucky and roll it

really love the game so far. Girls are cutes need a button to hide text box. Definitivly waiting for the update. keep the good work !

I'm glad you enjoyed the demo, thanks for your review.

Thanks everyone who gave the demo a chance, I'm really happy with the overall reception, and taking notes for the next updates. c:

Hard to judge the gameplay loop here because most of the rewards aren't really added. E.G. you can pretty much spank and see nudity right away, but how many headpats will it take to unlock (say) oral sex? Big element of what makes management games either enjoyable or unbearable.

Its a fair point, I might come up with an in game way to be really clear on what is possible and what not to avoid the players feeling lost. I really don't want it to be a grindy game, I'd rather it be short. Right now is a little unavoidable because we just have 1/10 of the planned content implemented. Thanks for your input.

so you made a demo, that demonstrates everything but what people want from these games.

What were you thinking?

I just cant have sexual intercourse right at the start of my corruption game, it'd throw progression out the window.
...Maybe a daydreaming scene? I don't know.
But hey, you can always wait for the full release.

 

[DaddyDegen]

Yummy. Only way it could be better is if 1-2 of them were also his daughters.

agreed. Daughters would make this game much better.

 

[Krmk]

Yummy. Only way it could be better is if 1-2 of them were also his daughters.

agreed. Daughters would make this game much better.

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Forgive me pro-incest brothers.
I totally lost that chance. MC is the only male in the game (apart from the original principal), and doesn't have daughters.
There *might* be female on female incest if the girls mothers/sistres made it in the game.

 

[HandholdDegen]

I just cant have sexual intercourse right at the start of my corruption game, it'd throw progression out the window.
...Maybe a daydreaming scene? I don't know.
But hey, you can always wait for the full release.

Day dreaming is a great idea. Get sexy content early/immediately, but waste time that could be spent actually building in-game progress towards actual scenes.
Lol! Game over due to gooning and delusion. XD

Yummy. Only way it could be better is if 1-2 of them were also his daughters.

Incredibly based.

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Forgive me pro-incest brothers.
I totally lost that chance. MC is the only male in the game (apart from the original principal), and doesn't have daughters.
There *might* be female on female incest if the girls mothers/sistres made it in the game.

YES! YES!! Lesbian incest please!!

 

[Ladiesonly]

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Forgive me pro-incest brothers.
I totally lost that chance. MC is the only male in the game (apart from the original principal), and doesn't have daughters.
There *might* be female on female incest if the girls mothers/sistres made it in the game.

The Fact that you mentioned not only lesbian content, but Lescest I like you and am looking forward to your content. and i know a great group of people who also love Lescest and there isn't enough of it

 

[falafal]

As other said, not a big fan of the engine, but the rest is solid. sign me up.

 

[Deleted member 112555]

...Maybe a daydreaming scene? I don't know.

Ugh.
No.
I hate those cope outs.

As for the game itself.
Is happiness a hidden stat because there wasnt any downsides for having it drop when i spank the living daylight out of them.
Will they get personalty changes based on stats or is it going to be an other visual novel pretending its a game by having stats just need x to unlock the next scene in the story?
Aka how much gameplay will this game have.

Things i like to be able to do:
1:Fix the girls drinking problem.
Not only is underage drinking illiage i just dont like alchole.
2: Scold her for getting caught taking pictures, not for taking pictures.
Its only a crime if you get caught after all.

The game doesnt take itself seriously so i am not going to be harsh on the realism aspect....
Unlike the headmaster game.
God headmaster intro hurt like hell.
The principle was funny:
I havent had a vacation in 5 years.

I too would go insane if i had to spend 5 years working none stop.

 

[姫小猫 Sakurai]

Game look so good and cute models, i hope one girl daughter in future.
And RPGM ummmmm ...

Test I: I've tried the game, it's really very good and has a lot of potential, I hope it's a huge and long game with many options in the future and animations if possible, all the girls are different and unique, it's great

 

[jkj34]

With you using rpgm i was surprised to see it so closed off VN style i thought it would be a slow corruption style were those choices of them taking off tops/skirts would lead to new uniforms.

But its only in private no rules change the over all scope and library as a shop?

Great idea but i agree rennply would have given better graphics and fit this style of game better.

I will still stick to headmaster for this style of game atm.

 

[RushdiaAhmad74]

The Demo is already 1.5GB ! it have to be good,,

 

[Gonzo01]

Right game, wrong engine.
Many potential followers may not even try this game when they see RPGM used (and missing out in the process).
I prefer ren'py because there is more control over text speed, auto advance, screen size and loading/saving.

 

[Deleted member 61489]

1. Dreams are a massive story-telling cop-out. I really hope you don't do it.
2. Moms and sisters would be great additions: some as protectors (who fail), others as agents of corruption
3. Girls should be, on the whole, innocent. Don't make them pint-size whores right off the bat

Haven't tried the demo yet, just listing out hopes for the game. Good luck!

 

[HandholdDegen]

1. Dreams are a massive story-telling cop-out. I really hope you don't do it.
2. Moms and sisters would be great additions: some as protectors (who fail), others as agents of corruption
3. Girls should be, on the whole, innocent. Don't make them pint-size whores right off the bat

Haven't tried the demo yet, just listing out hopes for the game. Good luck!

1. How is it a cop-out? If we get photos of a naked student, why not let us have a 'dream scene' where we fap imagining doing stuff to her? It's not there instead of sex scenes, but as an addition to get it earlier if you don't want to wait and need something to keep you excited.
2. Based.
3. God forbid a girl has hobbies.

 

[JHorcoc28]

How do you save the game?

edit: never mind, I figured it out.