discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[BadJM]

I read that he wasn't stopping. That SSP would be finished for free. Did that change?

In his last post he made on SS, he said he would still make games and images but he will not create content with lolis ever again. Some people that still are in contact with him said pretty much the same, he is super pissed about the situation but is still planning on making games but without that type of content and it would be under a completely different name. So no, he will most likely never finish SSP.
Even him coming back to making games is not certain right now. He could just decide that the adult game dev thing is just not worth it anymore. It has only been a week since he pretty much lost everything so we have to wait and see what happens. Right now he is probably taking a break from the online world and pondering all his options.

 

[DaddyDegen]

Dude should just take crypto donations and post his wallet. SSP was the greatest game of all time.

 

[gestved]

I think all we can do is respect and support his decision, it's his life, not necessarily his fight. If even steam is having trouble with censorship, a dude with a discord server having his livelihood on the line is an easy target, he would hardly have any support if anything happened, that isn't at most hundreds of anons complaining about it.

I'm sure he already thought about those alternatives for a long time, making a front to continue doing what he's doing, but those are not guaranteed solutions, it would be even more work, and he has the right to want stability. He gave us great content for about 5 years, and inspired at least a hundred of other artists to make similar work, and will continue to inspire in the future, he's more than allowed to back down. The lolis will live on through others who come after, and Ketzal will live on with his new work.

 

[BadJM]

I think all we can do is respect and support his decision, it's his life, not necessarily his fight. If even steam is having trouble with censorship, a dude with a discord server having his livelihood on the line is an easy target, he would hardly have any support if anything happened, that isn't at most hundreds of anons complaining about it.

I'm sure he already thought about those alternatives for a long time, making a front to continue doing what he's doing, but those are not guaranteed solutions, it would be even more work, and he has the right to want stability. He gave us great content for about 5 years, and inspired at least a hundred of other artists to make similar work, and will continue to inspire in the future, he's more than allowed to back down. The lolis will live on through others who come after, and Ketzal will live on with his new work.

Yea if even a big platform like steam has to cave in to the demands of payment processors, we can't expect him to fight alone. I am sure he is the one the most upset with this whole situation since he pretty much lost his job and his income.

 

[gestved]

Yea if even a big platform like steam has to cave in to the demands of payment processors, we can't expect him to fight alone. I am sure he is the one the most upset with this whole situation since he pretty much lost his job and his income.

For sure, now he has to make a move and either decision adds a ton of uncertainty. He won't be banned for lolis now, but now he has to think of a new game, a lot of work on it's own, his audience has to accept the change and keep supporting him, and who knows, maybe he will keep writing incest stories, but maybe they start banning him because of it too? It's a shitty situation all around.

 

[BadJM]

For sure, now he has to make a move and either decision adds a ton of uncertainty. He won't be banned for lolis now, but now he has to think of a new game, a lot of work on it's own, his audience has to accept the change and keep supporting him, and who knows, maybe he will keep writing incest stories, but maybe they start banning him because of it too? It's a shitty situation all around.

I mean he was already working on another game alongside EGBE and SSP, it's a safer game without lolis, that he created to keep his SS open. So he can just release that under a different name. There was already a demo for it released for supporters.

 

[gestved]

so the decision was made months ago at least, he waited until he had a replacement before making it public, which I think is a smart choice, one problem at a time is better than everything all at once

 

[BadJM]

so the decision was made months ago at least, he waited until he had a replacement before making it public, which I think is a smart choice, one problem at a time is better than everything all at once

Months ago he had issues with SS because of the content of his games, the page was shadowbanned for a while so he created that game just for SS, so it could stay open and people would get SSP and EGBE on discord.
The plan was to use that game as a front, it would only be update like once a year. But now it seems like he will either have to make that his main game or create something completely new.
Or he could just stop making games altogether, we don't know for sure. He said he still wanted to make games, but wanting and being able to, are different things.

 

[BadJM]

Only good news is that he started making another game.

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[TheElwoodBlues]

Still hoping someone will share a compressed of the last update.

 

[LoveAVN4ever]

I am deeply pained by ketzal having to abandon his work after so many years. I don't want to believe it's real

 

[BadJM]

I am deeply pained by ketzal having to abandon his work after so many years. I don't want to believe it's real

Yea it fucking sucks to see these games abandoned after so much work being put into them. But at least he will stil make games. I think it would be way worse if he just quit making games altogether.

 

[fairway]

I think it is important to remember that while those karrens are cunts and may be the face of the attacks.
But they actually did nothing, and would have achieved nothing if the powers that be didn't want this.

Just the same a right wing concerns are being used to implement digital id in the name of saving children from the internet despite it being against there interest in every other way.
Rather than the parents say I don't know parent.

The funny thing is that we were weathering the storms fine when it was just the right. When just religious folks attack, a lot of creatives and media types feel it is their moral obligation to push back; but when the Left attacks they have a morality attack and crumble every fucking time. The problems really started when the Right and the Left both agreed that the one thing they hated was porn.

They go after it for different reasons ("It offends a dead middle-eastern carpenter!" vs "It hurts the womyyyynz!") but it's still cobelligerency against us.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Only good news is that he started making another game.

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Vanilla = couldn't care less. If I was into that I have a backlog of 1800+ such AVNs I haven't played yet in my collection (contingency for the unlikely event I get bored and desperate enough after all porn is banned by PP's). Oh well, this is just more motivation to make my own damned loli AVN for free/at my own expense while giving a middle finger to the world's Karens and Kevins. Attention and outrage will by my payment. The more of that I'll get the more satisified I'll be (the outrage half will just more more opportunities to spam that middle finger, I would have totally went into apeshit-level euphoria if I was the No Mercy dev on Steam).

 

[BadJM]

Vanilla = couldn't care less. If I was into that I have a backlog of 1800+ AVNs I haven't played yet in my collection (contingency for the unlikely event I get bored and desperate enough after all porn is banned by PP's). Oh well, this is just more motivation to make my own damned loli AVN for free/at my own expense while giving a middle finger to the world's Karens and Kevins. Attention and outrage will by my payment. The more of that I'll get the more satisified I'll be.

Yea that is probably the way a lot of people here feel. It's not surprising since most people use this forum for the loli content.

 

[Republican Bear]

Guess I'm lucky as I love all types of adult games. Though I understand why others might be tired of vanilla games.

 

[BadJM]

Yea I am pretty much the same. I just like adult games in general. The only thing in adult games that is a hard no for me is unavoidable NTR. Other than that, if the art and story are good, I will pretty much play anything.

 

[LewisCarroll]

In his last post he made on SS, he said he would still make games and images but he will not create content with lolis ever again. Some people that still are in contact with him said pretty much the same, he is super pissed about the situation but is still planning on making games but without that type of content and it would be under a completely different name. So no, he will most likely never finish SSP.
Even him coming back to making games is not certain right now. He could just decide that the adult game dev thing is just not worth it anymore. It has only been a week since he pretty much lost everything so we have to wait and see what happens. Right now he is probably taking a break from the online world and pondering all his options.

Thats just too sad Wonder if we could get him to post a synopses of the story here.

 

[BadJM]

Thats just too sad Wonder if we could get him to post a synopses of the story here.

I don't think he will come back to this forum. I think he will just avoid being associated with anything involving lolis. He will also change his name, so if you want to play his next game when he releases it, you will just have keep an eye on new releases on cuck95.

 

[Republican Bear]

Well here's to hoping even half of his past supporters move on to his new game, and that he gets more support on F-95.

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Good luck getting on Steam though as it gets harder everyday with the no more Early Access for adult games.