discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[Nicest_Incest]

Seath Black just completed his The Guardian. There are some optional watersports with daughters there. But I have to worn you, the quality of that game (especially the writing, but also to the lesser degree the graphics) is vastly inferior to this great Ketzal's work

eh it's not bad. My main gripe with Seath's work is the animation loops/scenes are too short, usually around like 1 single second loop/30 renders per animated scene (sometimes even half that by "cheating" and running the second half/ 15-render set the same as the first but in reverse, at least that what it looks like). Finished TG1 not long ago, it was good enough to have me looking forward to TG2. Same for Foreseeable Family. But yeah other optional kinks in SSP like watersports would be nice (I'd drink Hailey's pee while her hair is down, but prob wouldn't be an ass and make her drink mine like you can in TG). Considering even just bush Ketzal finds disgusting I doubt there will ever be kinks like scat though. Prob no beastiality either (not just a bush but totally covered in hair, besides the 2 extra legs).

 

[User_12]

eh it's not bad. My main gripe with Seath's work is the animation loops/scenes are too short, usually around like 1 single second loop/30 renders per animated scene (sometimes even half that by "cheating" and running the second half/ 15-render set the same as the first but in reverse, at least that what it looks like). Finished TG1 not long ago, it was good enough to have me looking forward to TG2. Same for Foreseeable Family. But yeah other optional kinks in SSP like watersports would be nice (I'd drink Hailey's pee while her hair is down, but prob wouldn't be an ass and make her drink mine like you can in TG). Considering even just bush Ketzal finds disgusting I doubt there will ever be kinks like scat though. Prob no beastiality either (not just a bush but totally covered in hair, besides the 2 extra legs).

I can confirm what will never be in SSP. NTR, Bestiality, SCAT, Sharing (M/M/F). The rest...... Watersports is planned, yes.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Three models are inspired.... Very largely inspired.... But you can share your thoughts, I'd say if you got it right or not

Probably just projecting but my shot in the dark is Nicole is based on your real sister.

 

[User_12]

Probably just projecting but my shot in the dark is Nicole is based on your real sister.

LOL! No. Seriously nope.

 

[Beduin123]

But yeah other optional kinks in SSP like watersports would be nice

I do not think it is that necessary. The main kink of this game is loli / incest, otherwise it is pretty vanilla game and I like it. It is not a Fetish Locator which tries to embrace as many kinks as possible )

Finished TG1 not long ago, it was good enough to have me looking forward to TG2.

For me the last third of that game was a train wreck. But lets not hijack this thread.

not just a bush but totally covered in hair, besides the 2 extra legs

)))))))))

 

[Mikesdk]

I really loved this game, alot of potential but is it just me or is it falling apart?
Can it really be right that all routes leads to the same story/route, it makes no sense to me at the moment, even oldest daughter solo route leads to harem? you go to the concert with her then it jumps to chapter 4 where MC ends up at the house with everyone not sure why but might have missed someting but it sure dosent feel like solo route after that, more like harem.
Go to your sister route (blood) also leads to harem, family route leads to harem….. i wanted to get away from the sister but you just cant, no matter what you choose it seems to lead to a big house with all of them?….
And man i wish MC wasent so submissive i really wanted to put the sister and oldest daughter in their place when they backstabbed him….but cant do that either…but you can have a 3-some with the bitch sister and the daughter, why MC would let the sister anywhere him or hes daughter made no sense to me since he should be very pissed at her after all she did.....like tricking the daughter to sleep with MC and breaking the familie up....

 

[MattShizzle]

I know it's rare but reading dev notes and changelogs should be the first steps before even downloading anything. Sometimes nothing of note changes/no new content (not just for AVNs and could be just a minor bug fix that were giving all of 5 people a problem), so could save time downloading sometimes. I'm surprised download links aren't gated behind the dev notes or changelogs to force people to read them more often.

If anywhere did that, someone would likely start a new place that didn't and it would become the more popular one. Would be a pain in the ass equivalent to a hemorrhoid spurting pus and blood.

 

[User_12]

I really loved this game, alot of potential but is it just me or is it falling apart?
Can it really be right that all routes leads to the same story/route, it makes no sense to me at the moment, even oldest daughter solo route leads to harem? you go to the concert with her then it jumps to chapter 4 where MC ends up at the house with everyone not sure why but might have missed someting but it sure dosent feel like solo route after that, more like harem.
Go to your sister route (blood) also leads to harem, family route leads to harem….. i wanted to get away from the sister but you just cant, no matter what you choose it seems to lead to a big house with all of them?….
And man i wish MC wasent so submissive i really wanted to put the sister and oldest daughter in their place when they backstabbed him….but cant do that either…but you can have a 3-some with the bitch sister and the daughter, why MC would let the sister anywhere him or hes daughter made no sense to me since he should be very pissed at her after all she did.....like tricking the daughter to sleep with MC and breaking the familie up....

What makes me fall apart is that nobody reads what I write. Versions 0.9.0.xx are HAREM, versions 0.9.1.xx are ALICE and 0.9.2.xx are MACY (no HAREM). So if in the last version 0.8R you played with the non HAREM you won't get the continuation until 0.9.2. Voilà.

 

[Mikesdk]

What makes me fall apart is that nobody reads what I write. Versions 0.9.0.xx are HAREM, versions 0.9.1.xx are ALICE and 0.9.2.xx are MACY (no HAREM). So if in the last version 0.8R you played with the non HAREM you won't get the continuation until 0.9.2. Voilà.

Sorry your right dident read that and i cant seem to find that anywhere either, did check the changelog and dev notes, not even sure what you mean by that either, i just downloaded what i thought was the newest version and played the game from the very start and tried the diffrent routes and it never stopped me at any point it just got weird like i said in first post.

So new players shouldent download the V0.9.0.41R since it will confuse them? dont even see a download for 0.8R in here either so not much options.

 

[User_12]

Sorry your right dident read that and i cant seem to find that anywhere either, did check the changelog and dev notes, not even sure what you mean by that either, i just downloaded what i thought was the newest version and played the game from the very start and tried the diffrent routes and it never stopped me at any point it just got weird like i said in first post.

So new players shouldent download the V0.9.0.41R since it will confuse them? dont even see a download for 0.8R in here either so not much options.

Sorry, rereading my message, I realize I was aggressive. Sorry, tough day.
To put it simply: I decided to split my game into several parts because 90% of my subs play the HAREM version (lolis max ), and this means they don't have to wait eight months for the full game to be made.
I realize that this can be quite confusing.
If you want to play something other than HAREM, you'll have to wait for the full version (normally 0.x.3R).

 

[WorkinStiff]

Seath Black has just completed his The Guardian. There are some optional watersports with daughters there. But I have to worn you, the quality of that game (especially the writing, but also to the lesser degree the graphics) is vastly inferior to this great Ketzal's work

I agree Ketzal's models are way cuter, except the shorter hair (kind of looks revolutionary peasant on Lena and know on Hailey too (hmf), the buns in Leana's hair at the pool were super cute and Hailey's hair before was perfect, I can only imagine that is done to make rendering easy(?) because he asked her to take it down while during their love session(?).
But Seath's work in the Guardian, when not bogged down in a little too much superfluous story (rather a hot shorter story that slowly ratchets up expectations then an overly complicated long AVN) is pretty great too.

Seath's work is just a tad more varied with the more mom/daughter threesomes and especially the WATERSPORTS! There's a really amazing one on a boat includes internal pissing causing an orgasm!! That really turned it up a bit, although MC has never gone down on girl and tasted her squirting orgasm, I would love to see Tiffany getting her clit sucked, with finger in her while cum-squirting in MC's mouth!

Ketzal's got so much polish you can tell he puts the time in for some really quality stuff like different angles and the girls lustful expressions during sex and and the faces during O scenes are just hands down so much more divinely stimulating then what anybody else is doing. Thank you for blessing your fellow deviants with your great art Ketzal!

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I really loved this game, alot of potential but is it just me or is it falling apart?
Can it really be right that all routes leads to the same story/route, it makes no sense to me at the moment, even oldest daughter solo route leads to harem? you go to the concert with her then it jumps to chapter 4 where MC ends up at the house with everyone not sure why but might have missed someting but it sure dosent feel like solo route after that, more like harem.
Go to your sister route (blood) also leads to harem, family route leads to harem….. i wanted to get away from the sister but you just cant, no matter what you choose it seems to lead to a big house with all of them?….
And man i wish MC wasent so submissive i really wanted to put the sister and oldest daughter in their place when they backstabbed him….but cant do that either…but you can have a 3-some with the bitch sister and the daughter, why MC would let the sister anywhere him or hes daughter made no sense to me since he should be very pissed at her after all she did.....like tricking the daughter to sleep with MC and breaking the familie up....

It's still under construction, so non-harem routes sometimes do that. Alice's solo path gets updated after the harem one irrc. Same for Macy, smols, etc. As far as letting Nicole near him after she backstabbed him, well, I can relate. The cliffnotes version: I was once so pissed at my sister I didn't talk to her and avoided her for nearly a month (nvm why, that's a fucked up story in itself, but the plan was to never talk to her again). I was getting ready to move out/head for college and long story short we talked it out during what I thought was going to be a last goodbye (and ended up married to her with kids later, but I digress).

 

[Mikesdk]

Sorry, rereading my message, I realize I was aggressive. Sorry, tough day.
To put it simply: I decided to split my game into several parts because 90% of my subs play the HAREM version (lolis max ), and this means they don't have to wait eight months for the full game to be made.
I realize that this can be quite confusing.
If you want to play something other than HAREM, you'll have to wait for the full version (normally 0.x.3R).

Thanks and no worries i bet its not easy being a dev and very active on here as well so i can see how it all can add up
But thats good to know, ill still play the harem atleast once, i do like the lolis but i just really dont like the sister and how she is with MCs oldest daughter so if i lose a loli without her around thats fine so full harem wouldent be my first pick, ill just be patient and wait

And thanks for the info it all makes more sense now, really do love the game and the potential with the diffrent routes.

 

[Mikesdk]

It's still under construction, so non-harem routes sometimes do that. Alice's solo path gets updated after the harem one irrc. Same for Macy, Rebecca, smols, etc. As far as letting Nicole near him after she backstabbed him, well, I can relate. The cliffnotes version: I was once so pissed at my sister I didn't talk to her and avoided her for nearly a month (nvm why, that's a fucked up story in itself, but the plan was to never talk to her again). I was getting ready to move to out/head for college and long story short we talked it out during what I thought was going to be a last goodbye (and ended up married to her with kids later, but I digress).

I was just annoyed since it happens way to fast and it was a huuuge thing she did to MC and then she hugs with the daughter like a partner in crime...in my eyes theres just no possible reason it would ever lead to a 3-some at that time, MC should blow up insted and i mean really blow hes top off.....thats why the best route in my eyes is to take the daughter and get the hell out of there, most defently my favorite route, but i am more into the game for the story part, i love a good story, being an adult game comes second to me, so dont really care if harem has more of the "fun" stuff.

 

[Gerdi B]

I created a family tree on Family Echo:

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Attention: contains spoilers regarding family relationships revealed in different chapters of the game.
Set the view date for the ages to 2022-07-24 (first release date of the game according to the first post) in the view options (bottom of the tree window) to see the real/intended ages of the girls.
The tree represents the current state of the game (and the Macy spinoff).

If you find an error or can provide additional infos, photos etc. please let me know.
I could share the account data if someone wants to help to keep the tree up to date or can provide a lot of the missing data.

 

[User_12]

I created a family tree on Family Echo:

You must be registered to see links

Attention: contains spoilers regarding family relationships revealed in different chapters of the game.
Set the view date for the ages to 2022-07-24 (first release date of the game according to the first post) in the view options (bottom of the tree window) to see the real/intended ages of the girls.
The tree represents the current state of the game (and the Macy spinoff).

If you find an error or can provide additional infos, photos etc. please let me know.
I could share the account data if someone wants to help to keep the tree up to date or can provide a lot of the missing data.

Love that. Can I use it?

 

[Gerdi B]

Of course. I sent you the account data.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I created a family tree on Family Echo:

You must be registered to see links

Attention: contains spoilers regarding family relationships revealed in different chapters of the game.
Set the view date for the ages to 2022-07-24 (first release date of the game according to the first post) in the view options (bottom of the tree window) to see the real/intended ages of the girls.
The tree represents the current state of the game (and the Macy spinoff).

If you find an error or can provide additional infos, photos etc. please let me know.
I could share the account data if someone wants to help to keep the tree up to date or can provide a lot of the missing data.

Alice's lineage is a bit weird. Cassey gave birth to her but was just a surrogate because Nicole donated the egg.

 

[superpuma]

Just don't forget Tiffany in the next update... there are so many that monthly updates would be great... Leana, Hailey, Tiffany, Luna, Lisa, Jenny... LOL

 

[Gerdi B]

Alice's lineage is a bit weird. Cassey gave birth to her but was just a surrogate because Nicole donated the egg.

It's hinted in the game but not 100% confirmed, so i kept it simple in the first version of the tree.