4 Years of Service
Then you'd have people bitching that it's not the same. I just assumed MC died, dausis doing life in prison, everyone else killed themselves in grief, the end.
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4 Years of Service
That's for EGBE, not SSP. For those that only care about the story technically Ketzal's new ID (Aldor) remade SSP and turned it into a Patreon-slop travesty with no lolis but I forgot the name of it.Actually, there already is; DYNASTY from Dark Games.
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2 Years of Service
Err fuck me then for mixing them up (AGAIN). Just deleted my Post, thanks for telling.
3 Years of Service
It's called So Much to Love. Downloaded that garbage today then immediately deleted it and ignored the thread. Already don't like the way Ketzal tells his stories, I just miss the character models. But the way he writes has the story playing out a dream sequence for the MC. Reminds me of every time a character died in a show and we see heaven from their PoV in the afterlife. So in a way, maybe the MC did die at the end of SSP. And SML is his version of heaven turning into hell with all the girls aged up.
3 Years of Service
Jeez tell us how you really feel. It's what he had to do ok? Calling it garbage just because you don't like that Aldor had to make a change is really shallow. Clearly you were never a fan of his work to begin with
4 Years of Service
Actually he's not at all the only one that feels that way and I'm saying that as a former fan that used to give him $15/mo for over 2 years (ultimately a waste of ~$400 with half an AVN to show for it so ended up screwed over yet again, it's why I now give money to no dev that doesn't have their own site, crypto wallet and at least one other already-finished AVN and neither should anyone else without those 3 things if they have a lick of financial sense with a healthy dose of skepticism when it comes to people asking for money, esp true for those that would rather avoid giving more financial incentive for more censorship by any means available). He didn't have to do shit instead of what he actually did. He could have simply played it smart and carried on and not put SSP/EGBE on any platform at all and let the fronts finance it like BHG, Ruyiku and a few others now do but apparently 1200 SS subs wasn't enough so he did stupid shit that made the predictable happen despite advice from multiple Discord members not to when he announced his plans like a week beforehand to put SSP/EGBE dl links back on his front's page 9 months after SS told him to remove those or be banned. And as far as I'm concerned anything good enough for Patreon is garbage/slop to me (it's a filter I now use for any new AVN I see at all, that link is now synonymous with slop to me and has been for over a year as far as my preferences) so I knew better than to even dl the remade version for those prudes. The previous post just confirmed my assumptions but sounds even worse than I assumed.
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3 Months of Service
Yes, Patreon is very censored, it doesn't allow loli, incest, or rape games.
4 Years of Service
or bestiality, blackmail, and a list of 50 other things that make any AVN worthwhile at all. Hell currently only the Hays' Code is worse but I'm sure it will surpass that in few years. Only thing they need to do now is ban even hand-drawn sex altogether. Maybe then devs will quit wasting everyone's time and make their own damned site with front projects financing what fans actualy want.
3 Years of Service
I'll tell you what's shallow. Compromise and censorship. That's what these developers do. ALL OF THEM. They all sabotage their own games just to be on Patreon. We can't have anything with incest, shota or loli. Only shallow implications of it. Every game without a patch is landlady this or college student that because of how they all bend the knee to our puritanical overlords. Therefore, I don't respect developers who cave by doing what they 'have' to do instead of doing what they clearly 'want' to do.
4 Years of Service
My thoughts exactly, for me fastest way for a dev to lose my support and respect is to be a sellout, bend a knee, shit-can their own artistic integrity, and kiss ass just for an extra $100 on Patreon. Esp when other devs have proven that shit sites like crowdfunding platforms and their dumbass rules (Patreon the worst but not the only one) and restrictions are not needed, even without crypto wallet use: make your own site and launder the money from the usual payment processors via a vanilla-as-fuck front project or 2 like BHG did (no sex at all or only missionary position after marriage for low-priority/low-effort AVNs people sub to but don't actually care about to support the ones they do actually care about that is kept off every site except LC and a few others for free). Ketzal could have went that route but chose the easy way out.
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I think some discretion and pragmatism is a good thing. If Patreon doesn't allow a certain genre, figuring out a way to bypass the censorship lets you have your cake and eat it too. User defined relationships and ages. Fan made incest patch. Putting up a decoy vanilla game on Patreon so supporters can pay you for the game they actually want and support. Fan made loli patch not shared through Patreon. Plausible deniability is the name of the game.
The stakes are very high. It is all very well for us to decry the lack of gumption on the part of the devs, but if you're jailed for this kind of stuff, you won't last 6 months in prison. The other prisoners will see to that.
3 Years of Service
You clearly have a one sided perspective and don't understand the difficulty of what he went through. How is he supposed to keep making the game when he's not able to freely post his work and or make money from it? The white knights that can't tell the difference between real and fiction would keep targeting him and he wouldn't be able to survive since it's his full time job to make VNs. They do what they have to do in order to SURVIVE and put food on the table and pay the bills. Loli is a great genre but is heavily targeted. Even with the current ones that exist, they have to tread extremely carefully. It's just reality. Whether you like it or not
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3 Months of Service
That’s actually an understatement; SubscribeStar is exactly like Patreon these days.
So far, I only know of one reliable site where I can say for sure that you can get support for your "loli" content:
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I’m not entirely certain about
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, but it appears to be another site that *still* supports "loli" content.Ketzal used to have his fan page on SubscribeStar, but today they would ban him on the spot for his game...
That site has also stopped supporting "loli" games.
Naturally, "loli" content is under fire; many people compare it to child pornography (**), and there are plenty of individuals who launch DDoS attacks against sites like ATF for hosting such material. Furthermore, censorship of this content is only going to get stricter in the future, virtually every platform will ban you immediately for posting such content.
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It is perhaps also worth mentioning that most developers rely on sites like f95zone.to and loverslab.com to receive any meaningful financial support, and his game was banned from f95 as well. By making this decision, he has also regained access to the promotional reach that f95 offers.
4 Years of Service
There have been instances where a dev was banned even when he had nothing to do with the patch and relationship setters no longer fly either (it's why some AVNs have started with them and then removed that option in later updates, bait and switch at it's finest). They even stalk devs all over the internet to enforce that and devs agree to that bullshit stalking when they put it on Patreon. Besides all that really no one should give money to any platfrom to anyone that's on them that does that shit if they care about privacy and censorship at all. Agreeing to that dumb shit just emboldens them and financially supports it. I've said it before but I'd rather fund terrorism if I have to pick one.
As far as being jailed it depends on location, it's why he left France/Europe. A number of countries still don't care one bit about loli games or AVNs since there is no real victim. Some California judges have specifically stated exactly that during a few proceedings that have refused to indict (so essentially they were arrested and released either immediately after the paperwork or during the first court appearance a few days to a week or 2 later). In the US only a few select targets have been arrested that plea bargained due to not being able to lawyer up, which they shouldn't have agreed to and took it to trial. The cases would probably have been dropped after the bluff was called since obscenity is nearly impossible to successfully prosecute (WTF does "having no artistic value" even mean?), other than Mr. Double and his site but that is an extreme example that demonstrably got real kids raped and killed (and even that was fine for nearly 20 years, so if one is already old make whatever illustrated literature you want no matter where you are, odds are you will die of natural causes before getting arrested if precautions like logless VPNs are used).
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Believe it or not he's still alive after 5 years in. Most likely in an SNY unit with like-minded people and has been trading stories most of that time, if he's simply not kept in protective custody/solitary confinement/the hole for his own protection. The idea that every creep and p3do that ends up arrested also ends up murdered soon after is a myth mixed with bit of mass wishful thinking, at least in US federal prisons. Sure, some like Jeff Epstein do, but most have security that makes that exceedingly difficult, esp if sent to a supermax like ADX Florence when they are kept in their own 7x12 cell 24/7 (where that is probably the safest/coziest place in the world for them). But him in particular is in FCI Marion (medium security and still not dead after 5 years, go figure, at 70yo age will most likely get him before some other inmate will and he now has better healthcare anyway than most on the outside so the possibility is there to get released at 97yo in 2053).
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3 Months of Service
VPNs can also be traced; they aren't as secure as you think.
4 Years of Service
Make money with a low-priority front AVN. Post the problem AVNs the fans actually want for free on sites like this one and only this one. Like BHG he had enough fans to do that. And like I said before he was doing exactly that just fine for 9 months until a stupid move predictably got him banned. Why? If 1200 subs and probably several thousand $ a month still wasn't enough then he's just being a greedy bastard.
4 Years of Service
dunno how if configured right and there's no logs kept unless they've got a virus pinging LE at regular intervals or something similar (which could be legally challenged as warrantless if it came to that). There's been several cases during C P investigations where the FBI traced an IP to a VPN, showed up at that VPN's physical location asking for logs, told they don't keep any (and until it's legally required it's not in a VPN's business interest to do so when their selling point is privacy/anonymity and will probably never happen as long as digital privacy advocates have their way), so that was the end of the investigation or at least that path of it.
22 Days of Service
There's a guy on ATF who used to sell his game hidden behind crypto.
Well, for good reasons...
Well, for good reasons...
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3 Months of Service
You are aware, aren't you, that proxies are specifically designed to include an "X-Forwarded-For" header that reveals the original ip address? And hopefully, you also know that in cases of suspicion, the police have the means to request log files from VPN providers...A VPN is comparable to a tunnel, if you don't control the tunnel, how could a connection possibly be established? The IP header in the OSI model literally contains a "source IP address" field; if you were to manipulate that, the packets wouldn't be able to find their way back to you...When someone carries out a DDoS attack, the very first thing they do is rewrite that source IP address header...You could try sniffing your own traffic; I’m certain you’ll see that the headers contain both the source and target IP addresses. Try using tools like Wireshark on your Windows PC, or `tcpdump` (with additional parameters) if you’re on Linux, and take a look at your data packets... At the very least, your VPN provider knows who you are...
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