discussion Squirting: a rant

[Ribaso]

And in reality with women who are able to squirt. It's been tested. The women weren't even aware it was mainly piss.

Modern woke like to call it mansplaining, but being a student of physiology, it's known that "squirting" is a gush from Bartholin glands during the rhythmic pelvic contractions, aka orgasm. It's a gush sensed as an immediate extra wetness and not at all how porn (games or not) shows it.

Spoiler: A possible advantage

It can serve as a better media for sperm to flow through from perspective of evolutionary biology

Even though female orgasms can indeed precipitate an episode of urinary incontinence, since females internal urinary sphincter isn't as developed as its male's counterpart, it's still too much of an aftereffect to fit how porn describes it being parallel to male ejaculation.
Creaming, on the other hand, is the reaction of the thinned out cervical mucus (thin due to peak action of estrogen right before progesterone peaks to allow for implantation)...which indicates an impending doom of child support.

 

[InvaderZim]

"Mainly" is the relevant word here, because it's not just that, there's some glandular stuff in there as well.

 

[sourpuss]

Sorry if this is a repeat... I didn't read the whole thread... but what the hell do you mean by "masculising of the female orgasm?" Women can and do squirt. Like, it's a natural female bodily function. It is part of the mechanism that lubricates the vaginal walls when a woman is aroused. Because of that squirting is sometimes thought of as arousal overload and thus desirable. It can be seen as a sign that a woman had a more intense orgasm. It has nothing at all to do with blurring genders or sexes. I understand that some people don't like it, and that is completely reasonable... the your stated reason and comparison to growing a beard during orgasm is nonsensical.

It's kind of all there in the thread, but:

1) Distinction between 'female ejaculation', a real phenomenon involving ~5ccs of vaginal excreta, and 'squirting', a fictional trope of pornography involving up to a pint of what is, frankly, piss. Female ejaculation is real, squirting is not. And remember that we're talking about porn here, not real life. Games and videos featuring it all have the 200, 300cc 'fountain' stuff. If squirting limited itself to this barely-noticeable teaspoonful, I doubt I'd care about it at all.

2) I say 'masculising the female orgasm' because it (squirting, not FE) transposes the core and, for mammals at least, universal feature of the male orgasm (a substance is vigorously ejaculated from the genital region) onto the female orgasm, which lacks any innate prominent visual cue.

3) I don't think the beard comparison is nonsensical at all, so long as you assume the perspective of someone who considers squirting a masculisation of the female orgasm. It's just taking a random male-coded phenomenon and transposing it onto the female orgasm, in just the same way. And I only included that comparison to convey how and why I find squirting so incredibly off-putting. It's not meant to be a persuasive argument.

 

[BananaPrincess]

It's kind of all there in the thread, but:

1) Distinction between 'female ejaculation', a real phenomenon involving ~5ccs of vaginal excreta, and 'squirting', a fictional trope of pornography involving up to a pint of what is, frankly, piss. Female ejaculation is real, squirting is not. And remember that we're talking about porn here, not real life. Games and videos featuring it all have the 200, 300cc 'fountain' stuff. If squirting limited itself to this barely-noticeable teaspoonful, I doubt I'd care about it at all.

2) I say 'masculising the female orgasm' because it (squirting, not FE) transposes the core and, for mammals at least, universal feature of the male orgasm (a substance is vigorously ejaculated from the genital region) onto the female orgasm, which lacks any innate prominent visual cue.

3) I don't think the beard comparison is nonsensical at all, so long as you assume the perspective of someone who considers squirting a masculisation of the female orgasm. It's just taking a random male-coded phenomenon and transposing it onto the female orgasm, in just the same way. And I only included that comparison to convey how and why I find squirting so incredibly off-putting. It's not meant to be a persuasive argument.

Sourpuss Everything you are saying is based on your own dumb bias and ignorant personal beliefs, and has nothing to do with what is
taking place, the beard comparison is terrible by the way.

If you want to actually learn what is going on, there is a guy that explains it and goes in depth about it including showing
a chart of what is taking place, video is on Xvideo called "How to make her squirt And how it works Full HD clip now on RED"

If squirting itself makes you gag and you find it gross; then you skip to the 50 second mark where he is simply talking about the science
behind it.

 

[User_109578]

Doesn't help, there's still a dick.

I'm wondering if this futa/chicks with dicks obsession we're observing these days, along with the cucking fixation, are just all some modern day endemic humiliation fetish grown out of the systematic misandry in society. If the humiliation is ever present, why not just roll with it.

I mean, here's a woman (so they tell themselves) that even she's got a bigger dick than you.

Generally ever lower T levels doesn't help I'm sure.

It's probably the chemicals in the drinkwater making woman look like males, and man like sissies...

 

[User_109578]

Sadly true, although strictly speaking they are men with tits. It's gay with extra steps.

They are mostly just fat.
But you got a few with implants. Actually you got a lot with implants on sites like chaturbate

 

[JebDee123]

It's kind of all there in the thread, but:

1) Distinction between 'female ejaculation', a real phenomenon involving ~5ccs of vaginal excreta, and 'squirting', a fictional trope of pornography involving up to a pint of what is, frankly, piss. Female ejaculation is real, squirting is not. And remember that we're talking about porn here, not real life. Games and videos featuring it all have the 200, 300cc 'fountain' stuff. If squirting limited itself to this barely-noticeable teaspoonful, I doubt I'd care about it at all.

2) I say 'masculising the female orgasm' because it (squirting, not FE) transposes the core and, for mammals at least, universal feature of the male orgasm (a substance is vigorously ejaculated from the genital region) onto the female orgasm, which lacks any innate prominent visual cue.

3) I don't think the beard comparison is nonsensical at all, so long as you assume the perspective of someone who considers squirting a masculisation of the female orgasm. It's just taking a random male-coded phenomenon and transposing it onto the female orgasm, in just the same way. And I only included that comparison to convey how and why I find squirting so incredibly off-putting. It's not meant to be a persuasive argument.

I totally get your objection to point 1... I think an aversion to that is reasonable.

On point 2 I still think you're wrong with equating the visualization of a female orgasm to making it masculine. Of all the traits that are usually associated to being masculine, visible ejaculate isn't usually there. Now, the dominance demonstration of putting a visible ejaculate onto the face of a passive sexual partner is thought of as masculine... but I don't think the use of female ejaculate is every depicted that way... usually it is used as a way to demonstrate that the male/sexual partner who causes the woman to squirt is great at giving sexual pleasure. In that way I would suggest that making a woman squirt is often used to demonstrate that the man who accomplished it more masculine and keeps the woman in a feminine/passive role as one who the great orgasm was given to.

With that framing in mind (which might have gotten rambly cause I'm doing 3 things at once) then the beard thing is nonsensical.

 

[sourpuss]

Of all the traits that are usually associated to being masculine, visible ejaculate isn't usually there.

That's not what I'm saying, though. I'm not talking about ejaculation as classically masculine, I'm saying the male orgasm classically involves ejaculation, while the female orgasm doesn't - hence the transposition and so the masculising.

Sourpuss Everything you are saying is based on your own dumb bias and ignorant personal beliefs

True - but that just makes being 100% objectively correct all the more impressive.

 

[JebDee123]

That's not what I'm saying, though. I'm not talking about ejaculation as classically masculine, I'm saying the male orgasm classically involves ejaculation, while the female orgasm doesn't - hence the transposition and so the masculising.



True - but that just makes being 100% objectively correct all the more impressive.

giving a real thing an exaggerated visual is not the same as attempting to equate it to some other real thing that has a similar visual. A man wearing a kilt isn't more feminine because it looks like a skirt. Like, it's totally cool to not like something, even be totally turned off by it... but your reasoning is just nonsense. You're making a leap that is not even subconsciously intended.

 

[4rcan1st]

I find it absolutely, alienatingly off-putting. I've tried to think of a comparison - imagine if there was a fetish for girls suddenly growing thick, full beards right as they cum. Just instantaneously going all ZZ Top right when they climax. The beard-hairs would all fall out very quickly, of course - in like ten, fifteen seconds, say. But they grow a beard every time they cum. It's how you can tell they've cum. That's just what happens when girls cum. They instantaneously grow a thick beard which immediately falls out.

You are thinking of some kind of half-dwarf girls. Any dwarf worth its salt if born with a full beautiful beard, so we just need to find the right race to mix them with. Probably some sort of shapeshifter?

 

[sourpuss]

giving a real thing an exaggerated visual is not the same as attempting to equate it to some other real thing that has a similar visual.

I'm not saying it's intended! Henry Darger didn't intend to masculise the Vivian Girls. But by giving them schlongs, he definitely did so. I'm not saying squirting is an attempt to masculise the female orgasm; I'm saying it just does so incidentally.

 

[JebDee123]

I'm not saying it's intended! Henry Darger didn't intend to masculise the Vivian Girls. But by giving them schlongs, he definitely did so. I'm not saying squirting is an attempt to masculise the female orgasm; I'm saying it just does so incidentally.

And I'm saying a bullet may look like a dildo, but people didn't masculanize buck shot when they create jacketed rounds. That it is not intended, and that people are aware of the choice they are making (turning a female orgasm into something better for visual story telling), your loose connection that seems to be the basis of your dislike of the visual is nonsense. That you dislike the visual is fine... that you dislike the exaggeration is reasonable... that you liken it to an attempt to make female orgasms masculine is straight up cooky-dooks.

 

[sourpuss]

And I'm saying a bullet may look like a dildo, but people didn't masculanize buck shot when they create jacketed rounds. That it is not intended, and that people are aware of the choice they are making (turning a female orgasm into something better for visual story telling), your loose connection that seems to be the basis of your dislike of the visual is nonsense. That you dislike the visual is fine... that you dislike the exaggeration is reasonable... that you liken it to an attempt to make female orgasms masculine is straight up cooky-dooks.

Mate, why are you making me say again that I'm not suggesting squirting is an attempt to masculise the female orgasm? This is like the third time now. What's difficult to understand?

 

[CozeeBeaver]

I love any kind of moisture that a woman secretes from her pussy whether it be creamy or a clear fluid (which, by the way, does not taste like piss. In fact it doesn't really have any flavour to it, maybe a bit salty). I'll lap up whatever flows. I love pussy juice!