discussion VN Ren'Py DAZ My New Father [v0.1.4.8 Preliminary] [Diego]

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Text's hard to follow. Some gibberish.

 

[User_3471]

....this needs a whole hell of a lot of polish.

English is very clearly not the first language, the young girl is constantly called "he" along with just about every scene having some spelling errors/ dialog structure that just doesnt make sense.

Random choices that lead to game overs are just stupid. First choice in the game is advance or ignore, you pick ignore and you just game over. Why even have that.

Second choice you give 4 options, pick the first, response is maybe this isnt a good idea. Pick the second and game over. Pick third, the girl ignores you. What is the point?

Third choice, you pick the third option first and it tells you its the wrong order. Pick the first option, gives a response and then tells you wrong order.

Fourth choice bricks the game into a loop. Cant advance past this sequence.



Game is unplayable now, and really a bad showing for a first update.

As soon as you said “random choices that lead to game over” I canceled my download. That particular mechanic is the most useless thing in these games. All it does is force you to save at every single choice and then go back and choose what is “correct”. When I edit and work on various scripts, I tell devs this all of the time…. DO NOT INCLUDE DEAD END CHOICES OR GAME OVER ACTIONS!! When I see them, I delete the work and tell them I am no longer interested in working with them and why. It’s even in my work agreement as one of the things I do not do editing work for. They get mad and I say oh well!! Players hate this stuff and yet you guys still keep doing it.

 

[Galat]

@Diego Characters are cute but the story is wildly disjointed. If this doesn't start converging into something cohesive in the next update, I'll likely have to stop looking at it further. Also, not a fan of the slideshows instead of animations but I understand its already a pain CPU rendering everything.

I don't quite understand what you mean regarding the story.


If you are referring to how Sofia and Marcus interact with what is happening around them, I can tell you that Andrés sent Teresa and Serpentera to find him (V1.3.5). In this version, Serpentera gets what she needs to extort Marcus.


Now, if you were referring to ML seen in the orphanage, this is related to Andrés and the main plot. This connection is revealed with the appearance of the "old man" (mentioned in V1.3.5), who also explains the interest in Marcus.


It’s probably easier for me to understand because I already know the story.


As for the girls, they are already friends with Sofia. Later on, there will be a love triangle drama, and another girl will be introduced who hasn’t appeared yet, so you will see that later.


Regarding the next version, it will involve sex with Ana in several versions.

 

[Galat]

As soon as you said “random choices that lead to game over” I canceled my download. That particular mechanic is the most useless thing in these games. All it does is force you to save at every single choice and then go back and choose what is “correct”. When I edit and work on various scripts, I tell devs this all of the time…. DO NOT INCLUDE DEAD END CHOICES OR GAME OVER ACTIONS!! When I see them, I delete the work and tell them I am no longer interested in working with them and why. It’s even in my work agreement as one of the things I do not do editing work for. They get mad and I say oh well!! Players hate this stuff and yet you guys still keep doing it.

"Why are you responding to a comment from two years ago? Haha! But you're right, it was a mistake at the time

 

[kalindas]

is it just the translation or does the story make little to zero sense?

also not a fan of the upcoming ntr angle pretty sure that wasnt always among the planned content

 

[Galat]

is it just the translation or does the story make little to zero sense?

also not a fan of the upcoming ntr angle pretty sure that wasnt always among the planned content

NTR? That topic always seems complicated to me. Where do you see NTR? Because I don't perceive it. I've always found it a bit confusing with all the variations that exist.

 

[JokerOfTorment]

NTR? That topic always seems complicated to me. Where do you see NTR? Because I don't perceive it. I've always found it a bit confusing with all the variations that exist.

If you are asking what ntr is its pretty much if a male main character or just Mc is with any girl, and she is a love interest to him in some form like they are dating as boyfriend/girlfriend or a wife/husband situation, and it can happen if the girl is sleeping around behind the Mc's back or another male comes along and does something to the girl sexual in front of the Mc or could be behind his back like if the girl was kidnapped by a bad guy or something else with a penis and something sexual happens to her and ends up making the Mc mad or jealous or some form of bad emotions and this is one no one really likes.

But there is also netori where Mc is the one who is the one who does the stealing of girls from other men or boys by him pulling his charms or something on the girl, or she falls for the Mc and netori is the thing people tend to like, but also they just like the most where there is no other males at all wanting to be with the girls and the Mc is the only one getting them all sure there can be other guys in games, but they are best being the gay guy friend who you know won't touch the girls sexually or romantically or ones who are just friends or random guys who don't think of the girls in any other way then being their friend.

And to answer your question on where the ntr is being seen its under the genre spoiler on the first page under planned tags

-Planned Tags: anal, vaginal, oral, sex toys.
-Planned Tags (optional): bdsm, impregnation, pregnancy, ntr, lesbian.

 

[Galat]

If you are asking what ntr is its pretty much if a male main character or just Mc is with any girl, and she is a love interest to him in some form like they are dating as boyfriend/girlfriend or a wife/husband situation, and it can happen if the girl is sleeping around behind the Mc's back or another male comes along and does something to the girl sexual in front of the Mc or could be behind his back like if the girl was kidnapped by a bad guy or something else with a penis and something sexual happens to her and ends up making the Mc mad or jealous or some form of bad emotions and this is one no one really likes.

But there is also netori where Mc is the one who is the one who does the stealing of girls from other men or boys by him pulling his charms or something on the girl, or she falls for the Mc and netori is the thing people tend to like, but also they just like the most where there is no other males at all wanting to be with the girls and the Mc is the only one getting them all sure there can be other guys in games, but they are best being the gay guy friend who you know won't touch the girls sexually or romantically or ones who are just friends or random guys who don't think of the girls in any other way then being their friend.

And to answer your question on where the ntr is being seen its under the genre spoiler on the first page under planned tags

-Planned Tags: anal, vaginal, oral, sex toys.
-Planned Tags (optional): bdsm, impregnation, pregnancy, ntr, lesbian.

Thank you for the explanation!


I had understood that there was something in the game that indicated NTR.


But it clarifies: it’s optional, an extra for those who want to see that content, as there is a moment where a blackmail situation can occur with the "fat bastard" (a classic), but it is isolated and optional.


Moreover, that corresponds to the "Rescue Sofia" arc, and to get there, some characters who haven't even appeared on screen yet have to die first. We are light-years away from that.


I still need to tweak that, as I had forgotten. That’s been around for about two years, and many things have changed since I added the future tags

 

[mmccaw]

so in the update a lot has changed I only had 1 choice to make and was the main character even in any if the new material?

 

[Galat]

so in the update a lot has changed I only had 1 choice to make and was the main character even in any if the new material?

I'm sorry, but when translating your words, I can't understand what you mean.


If you are referring to buttons, these are reserved for the sex scenes (in the next version).


If you are referring to content with penetration (also in the next version).


I hope I have answered your question.

 

[User_3471]

"Why are you responding to a comment from two years ago? Haha! But you're right, it was a mistake at the time

Lol, I honestly didnt see the date. I was just scrolling through the comments and saw it.

 

[姫小猫 Sakurai]

Good game, renders, thanks you for update

 

[ExiledBurger]

A few minor things that are more of annoyances in my mind that hinder me from enjoying the game.

1. Can't rename the MC. Cool, a generic name that I have no association to.

2. Why would someone be wearing shoes in bed? Alone or for any other reason?
3. Plus, why would said individual lay in bed and do certain things, with the windows open to the world for all to see? If it was for voyeurism, sure. That's fine but, it's not clearly stated.
4. And again, no curtains or window blinds at all, even at night? Who does that?

 

[Razila]

Cucks suck, but sharing is caring!

 

[CrazyRosie]

It would be good if you gave warning that the game is nearly finished (this update) so that you have a chance to save. Otherwise it is very good (if a bit confusing).

 

[LewisCarroll]

I want to say this has potential, but it's so far along now that correcting it would probably be pointless at this stage.

• The story needs heavy editing from plot & language to grammar & flow.
• Modeling needs some work. Not horrible, but pretty rough in spots.
• Some menu choices don't do anything.
• Looks like it was written in Spanish and was translated poorly.

As an aspiring dev I look at the code to see how other dev's are managing their games. This one looks like it was coded almost entirely in Python making it overly complex and much less structured like most VN's. It's kinda impressive to be honest There are pieces of leftover dependencies that it kinda feels like I'm looking into a hoarder's house lol too. All in all, it's kinda a mess, but if you're not bothered by all the downsides, it can be interesting in spots. The dev should have asked for a little help fron another dev early on so it could have been cleaned up. I would have helped so there must be others that might have.

 

[NotLooking]

I don't quite understand what you mean regarding the story.


If you are referring to how Sofia and Marcus interact with what is happening around them, I can tell you that Andrés sent Teresa and Serpentera to find him (V1.3.5). In this version, Serpentera gets what she needs to extort Marcus.


Now, if you were referring to ML seen in the orphanage, this is related to Andrés and the main plot. This connection is revealed with the appearance of the "old man" (mentioned in V1.3.5), who also explains the interest in Marcus.


It’s probably easier for me to understand because I already know the story.


As for the girls, they are already friends with Sofia. Later on, there will be a love triangle drama, and another girl will be introduced who hasn’t appeared yet, so you will see that later.


Regarding the next version, it will involve sex with Ana in several versions.

When I said disjoined, I was referring to how we had started on an already wild journey involving the MC and the girl described in the description on the main page. In this update we are ripped out of that entire space and follow into introductions of multiple characters that although clearly will be important to the story in the future do not have any character development offered to the reader. They just appear and the story seemingly violently slams between points in this space. It is disorienting at times leading to a sense of grasping for some kind of rational for what is happening while continuing to be led down an optionless path of visual insanity. I would admit there is shock value to that presentation, but we didn't even get a chance to fully develop an attachment to the main LI before we are torn into this new space. Many questions go unanswered. What kind of an organization is this? Why is one dressed as a police officer with no compassion? Why is one dressed as a cherry blossom festival host but is somehow in position of power to threaten our new female secondary protagonist? What is it they intent to use Ana for that her friend feels the need to stop it from affecting her. Why is it she gets no assistance in that regard? Is thought manipulation that results in a LI being involved with a party that she naturally would fear or loath actually Stockholm Syndrome style rape? We have no idea if we should be rooting for the success of the organization or for their disruption. We see no way that it is connected to the MC previously introduced. There is a lot there to be expressed as you are aware. You know the whole story but have only offered us crumbs but even these crumbs wouldn't save Hansel and Grettle because they don't form a path back to the origin. Hopefully the next update clarifies a lot of what is going on avoiding an adjustment to the script for the earlier parts made later in the game. I'm also hopeful that the next update is not a year out. Maybe you could focus on three months intervals that allow you to focus on tightening the storytelling while offering at least one "romantic interaction" with a LI per update?

On a separate tangent, I also found it odd that anyone would have shoes on in bed. This just wasn't as unsettling as the prior mentioned transition to an entirely different space without contextual build up.

 

[CF432]

Thank you for the explanation!


I had understood that there was something in the game that indicated NTR.


But it clarifies: it’s optional, an extra for those who want to see that content, as there is a moment where a blackmail situation can occur with the "fat bastard" (a classic), but it is isolated and optional.


Moreover, that corresponds to the "Rescue Sofia" arc, and to get there, some characters who haven't even appeared on screen yet have to die first. We are light-years away from that.


I still need to tweak that, as I had forgotten. That’s been around for about two years, and many things have changed since I added the future tags

To clarify one thing, that wasn't mentioned or IMO even explained in a incorrect way:

The stealing doesn't need to be done only by "characters with a penis". If the love interest gets stolen, that's netorare (or in short NTR) content. Period. The stealing can be done by any NPC, the gender doesn't matter. Yes, there is a bunch of people, who view a predatory lesbian not as a threat, even if said lesbian steals the LIs of the MC and won't be a LI herself. For them it's "ohh, lesbian! That's hot!" But there are more and more people, who won't be happy with lesbian content, especially if the LI gets stolen by the lesbian. That's also the reason, why more and more people are asking, if lesbian content will also be avoidable, especially in game threads with the harem tag.

 

[Burgh917]

Anyone have a name change Mod that will work... with this game?

 

[lillo]

I just finished the last update and I have NO idea of what's going on Plot's a bit confusing to me

I mean, ok, a runaway girl, alright...then the random scene with the other girls in the shack thing and then the guy comes...then the random thing with all the other girls without any explanation...then the random scene with those 2 other girls that seemed an acid trip again without any explanation...