discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Lost & Bound [0.4 Public] [Twisted Moon Games]

[CarolusRex]

Just started but I want to give immediate credit to the best opening line in any AVN

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a married man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a harem."

And that is why so many men die unhappy, because it is nearly impossible to fulfill that dream.

 

[vogrin]

A current APK would be nice ......

 

[S7aard]

Incest tag but the daughters are in foster care?

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[BadJM]

Incest tag but the daughters are in foster care?

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The blonde one is their biological daughter, the others are adopted.

 

[ramvivat]

I recently thought about the logic of the characters' actions. (in other words, a conversation about the game's LORE)
I had no questions with the girls. But the wife of the MC - I have many versions here.
1 she is from a cult where incest was practiced and is herself the daughter of incest, but for some reason she left the cult. (like in the VN Rational Chaos) maybe she ran away? Why?
2 she was that daughter from the game DLST (daddy little sex toy) - or something like that. or the sister of the mother of that daughter from that short VN (I mean DLST)
why do I think so? Well, usually mothers do not allow debauchery in relation to their own daughters. But here - the opposite. She helped to corrupt the girls. This means there are dark places in her past, which, I hope, one day the author will not refuse to shed light on.

I also read a story "Kaori's HuCow Experience" on one portal. Story about how one mother had a secret fetish - she dreamed of dehumanising her daughters and turning them into dairy cows, livestock (dehumanising for ANY means it is a hard no-no for me - but i like lactation like in the VN "The Roommate"). Well, if this happens, where a mother wants to dehumanize her daughters, then a case where a mother helps corrupt her daughters doesn't seem so shocking.

 

[S7aard]

The blonde one is their biological daughter, the others are adopted.

??? The intro said they're all in foster care

 

[BadJM]

??? The intro said they're all in foster care

Well either the dev changed it or I was somehow high when I played it. But I remember the mc saying something along the lines of the blonde girl being a miracle since his wife supposedly can't have kids. But maybe I am confusing it with another game.
It some times happens when you play so many games, you start to mix them all up

 

[S7aard]

Well either the dev changed it or I was somehow high when I played it. But I remember the mc saying something along the lines of the blonde girl being a miracle since his wife supposedly can't have kids. But maybe I am confusing it with another game.
It some times happens when you play so many games, you start to mix them all up

Huh, I either must have read it wrong (very likely tbh) or the dev made a minor mistake in the intro. the character profile of Lily has her as the bio-daughter of MC and his wife

 

[JokerOfTorment]

I recently thought about the logic of the characters' actions. (in other words, a conversation about the game's LORE)
I had no questions with the girls. But the wife of the MC - I have many versions here.
1 she is from a cult where incest was practiced and is herself the daughter of incest, but for some reason she left the cult. (like in the VN Rational Chaos) maybe she ran away? Why?
2 she was that daughter from the game DLST (daddy little sex toy) - or something like that. or the sister of the mother of that daughter from that short VN (I mean DLST)
why do I think so? Well, usually mothers do not allow debauchery in relation to their own daughters. But here - the opposite. She helped to corrupt the girls. This means there are dark places in her past, which, I hope, one day the author will not refuse to shed light on.

I also read a story "Kaori's HuCow Experience" on one portal. Story about how one mother had a secret fetish - she dreamed of dehumanising her daughters and turning them into dairy cows, livestock (dehumanising for ANY means it is a hard no-no for me - but i like lactation like in the VN "The Roommate"). Well, if this happens, where a mother wants to dehumanize her daughters, then a case where a mother helps corrupt her daughters doesn't seem so shocking.

Maybe the Mc got away with grooming the wife as she was at some young age, and they did stuff together like he trained her to be obedient to only him and him having a lot of sex with her, and he told her if they have any daughters he wants them to be the same as her obediently trained and them having a lot of sex together or the Mc prior to having Lily, as he was dating the wife and he got married to her, she gradually became submissive to him and that made it easy for him to get her into one day him having sex with a daughter or daughters, and they become submissive and stuff like she is to him. Just my thoughts though lol.

 

[grim019]

Harem, incest, and twins love those tags.

 

[TwistedMoony]

Lily is the only biological daughter!!! Read the intro of 0.1 it is explained there.
The twins well...

Spoiler

they might, might not won't tell you if they practice twincest if you have the gold version you know

 

[S7aard]

Lily is the only biological daughter!!! Read the intro of 0.1 it is explained there.
The twins well...

Spoiler

they might, might not won't tell you if they practice twincest if you have the gold version you know

Are they even interested in each other like that? Them making out in that scene makes it seem like they're not

 

[ramvivat]

Lily is the only biological daughter!!! Read the intro of 0.1 it is explained there.
The twins well...

Spoiler

they might, might not won't tell you if they practice twincest if you have the gold version you know

yeah everyone have their own happyness under blanket hehe =)

 

[NotLooking]

Feels like the game lacks continuity. I understand it's still early in development but it seems all over the place and lacking multiple options. For example, we go from introductions of characters with an underlying desire to be with the MC to all of them being subs riding pillows and referring to them all as bitches and sluts. No clear path how it devolved to that state. No option to have a more tender approach or experience there. Meeting the rich snobs hints towards a dialog that would normally have led to a sexual tension or interaction but that fails to execute. No option to make being a social influencer be of little importance such as it doesn't have any importance in the real world either. Ultimately, we are left with a few cute characters that lack depth and are already being torn down to nothing more than fuck toys before there is any reason to be that way. All this while being told he values his family and wants success to provide the best for them. If this MC was an actual human, he'd end up incarcerated and studied for his sociopathic tendencies. The guy has all the charm of Jeffery Dommer. Definitely was not what I was looking for in an incest harem game with loli and twins elements.

 

[gehrero]

Maybe the Mc got away with grooming the wife as she was at some young age, and they did stuff together like he trained her to be obedient to only him and him having a lot of sex with her, and he told her if they have any daughters he wants them to be the same as her obediently trained and them having a lot of sex together or the Mc prior to having Lily, as he was dating the wife and he got married to her, she gradually became submissive to him and that made it easy for him to get her into one day him having sex with a daughter or daughters, and they become submissive and stuff like she is to him. Just my thoughts though lol.

Why does there need to be a reason? I would very much like, no love, if there was no special or dark past, no mind control, no coercion. Just a normal girl with a normal upbringing who just happens to be totally submissive. So much so that basically everything her owner does to and with her turns her on and him doing that to another woman is the best thing that could happen to her in her eyes, so why wouldn't she want that for her daughters?
True, it's more rare for women to be into those kind of things than men, but it happens. I don't think that's a bigger stretch than everything else.

 

[S7aard]

Why does there need to be a reason? I would very much like, no love, if there was no special or dark past, no mind control, no coercion. Just a normal girl with a normal upbringing who just happens to be totally submissive. So much so that basically everything her owner does to and with her turns her on and him doing that to another woman is the best thing that could happen to her in her eyes, so why wouldn't she want that for her daughters?
True, it's more rare for women to be into those kind of things than men, but it happens. I don't think that's a bigger stretch than everything else.

Not very many women are a complete carpet for her man. Being totally submissive to everything, regardless of how fucked up it is either needs a woman totally out of touch wwith her own worth by grooming from parents and family telling her she's not good enough. I can see her having been taken from the sex trafficking network as well because that kind of environment fucks with the mind of children so much that it even affects them as adults.

PTSD is a bitch

 

[JokerOfTorment]

Guess if it gets told about the wife's backstory like parents and all that we will have to see if she got the way she is via the Mc's doing in some way to be submissive and stuff. Or she had some old school parents that believed that the man of the house is in charge etc. and she would have to follow those teachings when she got older like her mom did and found her own man and her dad not doing anything sexual to her since my guess is to keep her a pure virgin and untouched until she gets married or something, so the Mc can do whatever to her later.

 

[ramvivat]

Are they even interested in each other like that? Them making out in that scene makes it seem like they're not

i have standarts, said Marshal from PA BHE.
Lily is too small - what is a nonstandart yet. capisce?

Feels like the game lacks continuity. I understand it's still early in development but it seems all over the place and lacking multiple options. For example, we go from introductions of characters with an underlying desire to be with the MC to all of them being subs riding pillows and referring to them all as bitches and sluts. No clear path how it devolved to that state. No option to have a more tender approach or experience there. Meeting the rich snobs hints towards a dialog that would normally have led to a sexual tension or interaction but that fails to execute. No option to make being a social influencer be of little importance such as it doesn't have any importance in the real world either. Ultimately, we are left with a few cute characters that lack depth and are already being torn down to nothing more than fuck toys before there is any reason to be that way. All this while being told he values his family and wants success to provide the best for them. If this MC was an actual human, he'd end up incarcerated and studied for his sociopathic tendencies. The guy has all the charm of Jeffery Dommer. Definitely was not what I was looking for in an incest harem game with loli and twins elements.

Some uncertainty in Lore is, we can say that the sign of projects that are still sewn when much can be changed.

So it was, for example, with the Taking Advantage project where the MC showed interest in his own nephew-daughters (daughters too) from the very beginning.
And this is usually not done - the beginning of a change in the image of the thinking of the protagonist should be performed before our eyes and not somewhere once. Even if this happened in the prehistory of visible events - this must be explained in order to explain the deviant behavior of the MC from the very beginning, so as not to scare away the reader, who will be faded into the van with substance*wink* without any preparation.

In other words, the project has not yet come out completely from the New Project stage and up to 3-4 updates can still be changed, which will require a complete replay.
be patient.

Guess if it gets told about the wife's backstory like parents and all that we will have to see if she got the way she is via the Mc's doing in some way to be submissive and stuff. Or she had some old school parents that believed that the man of the house is in charge etc. and she would have to follow those teachings when she got older like her mom did and found her own man and her dad not doing anything sexual to her since my guess is to keep her a pure virgin and untouched until she gets married or something, so the Mc can do whatever to her later.

yeah-yeah - it is like in Dwarf Fortress hehe... pre-history of world. =)

Speaking about "generally", in the stories about incest, I personally are interested in not sex itself, but the prestige, events that combined people who should not be together in normal circumstances. I am interested in the extracts of fate and circumstances that throw each other into each other (and, of course, in one bed) of the father and daughter or mother and son or brother and sister. Or it was not mutual, let one achieve another - one way or another, which makes people change their eyes hitherto familiar.

 

[Nastastic]

nephew-daughters

Nieces.

Unless you are referring to the daughters of the MC's nephew. Those would be great-nieces.

 

[ramvivat]

Nieces.

Unless you are referring to the daughters of the MC's nephew. Those would be great-nieces.

WHAT??? OUGH... sorry of cause daugter-nieces. haha... forgot words when talk by myself.

senile fart - there's nothing to do with it =))

DAMNED MOTHERFUCKIN' COVID!!!!