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Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Lost & Bound [0.4 Public] [Twisted Moon Games]

What? I played the game for the first time from here. I didnt pay anything. Is there some sort of confusion here? Anyway it is my honest opinion. Good luck but that kind of overt self praise is not good writing.

Uh? I downloaded the game from this site. I don't understand what you mean.
My post was sarcasm, as was TwistedMoony's. I'm not going to explain to you why they are sarcasm, though; if you don't understand, you'll want to research sarcasm and how it's used yourself.
 
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My post was sarcasm, as was TwistedMoony's. I'm not going to explain to you why they are sarcasm, though; if you don't understand, you'll want to research sarcasm and how it's used yourself.
That's all about modern kids. They take everything for granted :rolleyes:
 
My post was sarcasm, as was TwistedMoony's. I'm not going to explain to you why they are sarcasm, though; if you don't understand, you'll want to research sarcasm and how it's used yourself.
That's all about modern kids. They take everything for granted :rolleyes:



Sarcasm doesnt always translate well over text and just because you didnt pay for something doesnt mean you can't offer criticism. To be blunt If somebody gave you a plate of food with shit in it, you dont need to pay for it in order to tell them that it's shit.

Devs use here and the other site for audience feedback all the time and the dev themselves posted it here. If all they expect is to be showered with praises with no criticism at all, then it shows exactly where the low quality self aggrandizing dialogue came from.

But don't let me stop you from enjoying it. Maybe that is exactly what you are looking for. But I wasn't expecting all that from reading the OP.
 
Sarcasm doesnt always translate well over text and just because you didnt pay for something doesnt mean you can't offer criticism. To be blunt If somebody gave you a plate of food with shit in it, you dont need to pay for it in order to tell them that it's shit.

Devs use here and the other site for audience feedback all the time and the dev themselves posted it here. If all they expect is to be showered with praises with no criticism at all, then it shows exactly where the low quality self aggrandizing dialogue came from.

But don't let me stop you from enjoying it. Maybe that is exactly what you are looking for. But I wasn't expecting all that from reading the OP.
Criticism isn't helpful if all you do is say, "This is shit" and then offer nothing really for the developer to use to improve. Girls aren't cute enough, dialogue is cringe, MC self-glazes too much — I wonder why you're even on this thread if you dislike the game so much. If I dislike a game, I delete it from my hard drive, unwatch a thread, and move on with life. I don't waste time talking about how much I hated a game. That, my friend, is what a Review is for; this is the Discussion part of the thread, where we theorize about aspects of the game, like the plot of the story overall, etc. Yes, that includes talk about individual characters' traits (like personalities: cuddle or strangle?) and their motives. So yes, discussion of their physical appearance applies. But "could be cuter" isn't all that helpful; specifying what you don't find cute, what you'd like to see in their physical appearance, etc., is far more useful.

Obviously you can express how you feel here; we, then, are equally allowed to criticize your criticism, which offers nothing helpful for Moony to use. Your comment basically amounts to, "Start from the beginning and rework everything" . . . which isn't really helpful. So, I criticized how unhelpful your post was and, in my view, how unnecessarily harsh it was. But don't let me stop you from disliking it and self-flagellating as you continue to play it. :rolleyes:
 
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This should be fixed now!
But not for the links here I guess? At least the gofile one still has that message and no animation.

Apart from that, WOW, what a fantastic start, pretty much perfect for my tastes. I particularly liked the writing, it set up the atmossphere perfectly and has a quality you rarely see in AVNs. The establishing of MC as dom before the first teaser scene was a tiny bit too on the nose in my opinion, but that's literally the only criticism I have, it's leaps and bounds above anything I've read recently. (Edit: I even learned a new word, I think that has happened only once before and I've been playing AVNs en masse since Big Brother... great job!)

And, tell me if I'm wrong, but from the tonality you set, I'm pretty sure I for once don't have to suffer from cute girls getting punk haircuts and piercings or lesbian relationships without MC and other such stuff. You also seem to focus more on MC and the LIs than on the background story, which is great! (I'm not sure I'd need one at all.)
Also, do you have any plans how to handle how MC treats the girls verbally? I'm asking because the girls' default 'title' is bitch, and personally I love the degrading sex, the degrading language not so much. But so far MC is being a loving dom, so I don't see him being too degrading. Do you plan to offer different paths, or go with degrading, non-degrading or something in the middle?

I don't mind the pre-established 'corrupted' family at all. Most games with that content take so long to get to the really juicy bits, that they end with one little good scene or get abandoned before that. With the concept here I can have really good scenes from the get-go while still having the option to add the suspense of corruption with other LIs. Also, a wife who WANTS to make her little ones into subs for MC is about the hottest thing I can think of 🤪 and much too rare in AVNs.

Best of luck, fantastic start and I hope we get to see more!
 
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But not for the links here I guess? At least the gofile one still has that message and no animation.

Apart from that, WOW, what a fantastic start, pretty much perfect for my tastes. I particularly liked the writing, it set up the atmossphere perfectly and has a quality you rarely see in AVNs. The establishing of MC as dom before the first teaser scene was a tiny bit too on the nose in my opinion, but that's literally the only criticism I have, it's leaps and bounds above anything I've read recently.

And, tell me if I'm wrong, but from the tonality you set, I'm pretty sure I for once don't have to suffer from cute girls getting punk haircuts and piercings or lesbian relationships without MC and other such stuff. You also seem to focus more on MC and the LIs than on the background story, which is great! (I'm not sure I'd need one at all.)
Also, do you have any plans how to handle how MC treats the girls verbally? I'm asking because the girls' default 'title' is bitch, and personally I love the degrading sex, the degrading language not so much. But so far MC is being a loving dom, so I don't see him being too degrading. Do you plan to offer different paths, or go with degrading, non-degrading or something in the middle?

I don't mind the pre-established 'corrupted' family at all. Most games with that content take so long to get to the really juicy bits, that they end with one little good scene or get abandoned before that. With the concept here I can have really good scenes from the get-go while still having the option to add the suspense of corruption with other LIs. Also, a wife who WANTS to make her little ones into subs for MC is about the hottest thing I can think of 🤪 and much too rare in AVNs.

Best of luck, fantastic start and I hope we get to see more!
I switched "bitch" to "baby" and it seems to work.
 
I switched "bitch" to "baby" and it seems to work.
Sorry, apparently there was a misunderstanding. Switching the 'title' works, but in the future the tone with which MC will adress the girls can't always be limited to the title (or at least, that would be hard to do and make the dialogue sound too neutral and unnatural). The author will have to make a choice about the tonality, apart from any variables. And I would like to know if they plan to have multiple paths for that or if they have decided on a tonality in general or per LI. Because so far MC was the typical -what I would call- 'strict but loving dom' and usually that is not paired with degrading speech like 'bitch', which is why the bitch threw me off a bit and made me wonder about the way things will develop.
 
Sorry, apparently there was a misunderstanding. Switching the 'title' works, but in the future the tone with which MC will adress the girls can't always be limited to the title (or at least, that would be hard to do and make the dialogue sound too neutral and unnatural). The author will have to make a choice about the tonality, apart from any variables. And I would like to know if they plan to have multiple paths for that or if they have decided on a tonality in general or per LI. Because so far MC was the typical -what I would call- 'loving but strict dom' and usually that is not paired with degrading speech like 'bitch', which is why the bitch made me wary of future developments.
Gotcha and I agree.
 
Criticism isn't helpful if all you do is say, "This is shit" and then offer nothing really for the developer to use to improve. Girls aren't cute enough, dialogue is cringe, MC self-glazes too much — I wonder why you're even on this thread if you dislike the game so much. If I dislike a game, I delete it from my hard drive, unwatch a thread, and move on with life. I don't waste time talking about how much I hated a game. That, my friend, is what a Review is for; this is the Discussion part of the thread, where we theorize about aspects of the game, like the plot of the story overall, etc. Yes, that includes talk about individual characters' traits (like personalities: cuddle or strangle?) and their motives. So yes, discussion of their physical appearance applies. But "could be cuter" isn't all that helpful; specifying what you don't find cute, what you'd like to see in their physical appearance, etc., is far more useful.

Obviously you can express how you feel here; we, then, are equally allowed to criticize your criticism, which offers nothing helpful for Moony to use. Your comment basically amounts to, "Start from the beginning and rework everything" . . . which isn't really helpful. So, I criticized how unhelpful your post was and, in my view, how unnecessarily harsh it was. But don't let me stop you from disliking it and self-flagellating as you continue to play it. :rolleyes:
Ughhh. boring. I played it and said what I thought. Ive already finished what is available and didnt like it. Why would I play it again? Self flagellation?....For playing this game? Maybe you do agree with me that its not good if thats the exaggeration you chose to go with. You are trying to be smart but you are failing.

Also I didnt just call it shit. I clearly said the narration talks up the MC way too much to the point of being distasteful. That is constructive feedback whether you agree with the statement or not. What, you expect me to tell him exactly how to fix it too? How about just not doing that and let the reader get a sense of the MC;s qualities through his actions instead of constantly blowing smoke up his ass? That is how you make characters compelling. Show not tell and there is a whole lot of telling going on here.

The attractiveness of the characters is entirely subjective so thats up to whoever is looking at them.
The game is in it's early stages and I typically dont leave reviews unless there is a substantial amount development. I hardly use this site anyway, as I am sure you can tell from my stats. I prefer to not leave 1 or 2 star review simply because I didnt like a game in early development. It doesnt even have 30 mins of playtime. That is utterly useless because it is not a review of the product in its entirety, or a state substantial enough to get a sense of what the full game is or will be. A 5 star or a 1 star review on what is essentially a demo serves no one. I leave a comment instead stating whatever issues I found.

If the dev changes anything about his writing, that is up to him. I demand nothing. I gave my opinion and that should have been the end of it.

The only reason I came back is because you and the dev tried being sarcastic because you got butthurt cuz I didnt slurp up the game and call it awesome when it really isn't. Or maybe I am just not the target audience, since looking at the thread, everyone else seems to be in love with the game.
 
The only reason I came back is because you and the dev tried being sarcastic because you got butthurt cuz I didnt slurp up the game and call it awesome when it really isn't. Or maybe I am just not the target audience, since looking at the thread, everyone else seems to be in love with the game.
We didn't try to be sarcastic; we just were. I wasn't butthurt, and I highly doubt TwistedMoony was either; sarcasm / joking doesn't equate to being offended or upset, despite what you apparently think. The joke (since you've clearly missed it) is that because you dislike the game, obviously you wouldn't pay to support the dev. By saying thus that you would support at the $100 tier, I was saying you made it clear you wouldn't support the dev at all monetarily. From there you go off on your right to criticize and that we're butthurt, and whatever other stuff you want to invent. 🤷‍♂️ I've agreed that you should be able to have and express your opinion, so why do you feel like you get to tell me why I can't have my own and make a comment expressing it? Anyway, we're done here. I'm putting you on Ignore, so you don't need to bother responding.
 
We didn't try to be sarcastic; we just were. I wasn't butthurt, and I highly doubt TwistedMoony was either; sarcasm / joking doesn't equate to being offended or upset, despite what you apparently think. The joke (since you've clearly missed it) is that because you dislike the game, obviously you wouldn't pay to support the dev. By saying thus that you would support at the $100 tier, I was saying you made it clear you wouldn't support the dev at all monetarily. From there you go off on your right to criticize and that we're butthurt, and whatever other stuff you want to invent. 🤷‍♂️ I've agreed that you should be able to have and express your opinion, so why do you feel like you get to tell me why I can't have my own and make a comment expressing it? Anyway, we're done here. I'm putting you on Ignore, so you don't need to bother responding.
All of this because one dude doesn't understand sarcasm lol.
Ignored or not. don't care. Thats just petty.

The sarcasm sucked as text, but once revealed as sarcasm it was obvious what was meant. I didnt engage with it because it's not relevant to what I think about the game. Never said you cant disagree with me. I said just the opposite actually. I would have told you to stfu and ignored you if I thought that. But I guess we know who took that route.

Meh.
 
Ignored or not. don't care. Thats just petty.

The sarcasm sucked as text, but once revealed as sarcasm it was obvious what was meant. I didnt engage with it because it's not relevant to what I think about the game. Never said you cant disagree with me. I said just the opposite actually. I would have told you to stfu and ignored you if I thought that. But I guess we know who took that route.

Meh.
English is not even not my first languange and I thought it was really easy to understand that it was sarcasm.
Either way, if you don't like the game that is fine. We all have different tastes and look for different things in adult games. I personally think you could've just worded things a little bit better.
The way you wrote your comment it came off more as you just shitting on the game than giving genuine criticism.
 
English is not even not my first languange and I thought it was really easy to understand that it was sarcasm.
Either way, if you don't like the game that is fine. We all have different tastes and look for different things in adult games. I personally think you could've just worded things a little bit better.
The way you wrote your comment it came off more as you just shitting on the game than giving genuine criticism.

Guys, there are people who are better be ignored than argued with. Just let him be in his misery.
 
English is not even not my first languange and I thought it was really easy to understand that it was sarcasm.
Either way, if you don't like the game that is fine. We all have different tastes and look for different things in adult games. I personally think you could've just worded things a little bit better.
The way you wrote your comment it came off more as you just shitting on the game than giving genuine criticism.

Finally. A rational and fair comment.

Cheers.
 
Guys, there are people who are better be ignored than argued with. Just let him be in his misery.
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The game looks promising. Still in early development. I’m gonna skip a few updates before diving into it.
Will be doing the same. However, concidering the development pace of some games here, it might take a couple of years.
 
Just started but I want to give immediate credit to the best opening line in any AVN

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a married man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a harem."
 
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